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sleazybutterfly -> Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 10:17:59 AM)

i am just curious.. do You care if Your sub/slave comes to You with ideas of things they would like to try?
 
i know that i have several fantasies..and ideas of different types of play or even scenes i would love to try.  i have noticed that in the past.. i have always been a bit shy or timid in bringing them up though.  i didn't want to feel as though i were topping from the bottom.
 
To go along with this a bit.. how about if maybe i am in a darker mood than my Master.. such as i need a stronger type of play that day.  Sometimes the flogger isn't enough.. i need it a little rougher.  Is it okay to bring this up also?
 
                      Thanks in advance.. i always enjoy reading the responses on here.
                                                          ~butterfly
 




SirWolfnman -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 10:21:15 AM)

I  would say its ok to bring it up to your Master but in a respectful manner. In the past i have subs/slaves do just that and it was a very rewarding time for the both of us




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 10:27:56 AM)

Some do, some don't.

Do yourself a favor, stop asking yourself if something is ok or not. 

If it's ok for you, it's ok. Although a million people will tell you that you are wrong, trust me, you will find someone who agrees with you in a relationship.




JohnWarren -> RE: Do You care if they ask? (5/24/2006 10:28:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sleazybutterfly

i am just curious.. do You care if Your sub/slave comes to You with ideas of things they would like to try?


Not just "mine" but it's interesting to be approached by people with interesting fantasies that are a challenge to take on.   I don't know how many times I've been told "I'd really like to try xxxx, but I know it's impossible."

Sometimes it's easy; sometimes it takes a leap of imagination as with the severed nipples and the Dolcett scene, but there are usually ways to pare the scene down to its essentials and find ways to accomplish at least some part of the fantasy.

In those types of scenes I generally eschew the title "dom" and take on something like "director" and in one case the young lady involved came to call me the "expeditor," a title that I enjoyed enough to put in the fictionalized account http://www.lovingdominant.org/Gangbang.html




ClevMaster -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 10:35:18 AM)

Creativity is the spice of life. Any Dom/me who thinks that he/she has ALL the good ideas needs to have their Prozac dosage adjusted upward. Of course, all the caveats apply about knowing your Dom/me well enough to know how/when to ask, but in MY humble opinion, ask away. We can always say NO.
While We LIKE to think that the Master and Mistress is in control, is all that matters, only His/Her happiness counts, etc., the REAL ones understand that a happy sub/slave makes for a happy Dom/me. It IS a relationship and a 2 way street.




KnightofMists -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 10:39:29 AM)

what you are asking is very much relationship specific.  Being that... it depends on if this would be acceptable in the given relationship between the two people involved. 

First however,  Is it OK for you!  Is this something that you want in your relationship.

If it is get in a relationship that this would be acceptable if not expected behaviors  Otherwise you going to find yourself dealing with some negative stress.... the question is... would this negative stress be more than you can tolerate... would it be damaging to the relationship and maybe even end it.  So it begins with you.

In my relationships... this behavior is very acceptable and even expected.... But, it is not required to happen, Meaning that it's ok if the person doesn't wants to intiate this type of conversation.




akisha -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 10:47:17 AM)

I think asking or bringing up ideas is great. But realize it's still up to your Dom or Master to whether or not He'll do them. You're a partner in the relationship therefore your thoughts and ideas are valid, but it doesn't mean they'll be utilized.

As for feeling darker. You should be openly communicating your moods before playing all the time anyway. IMO. If i'm in a sensitive, need reassurance mood he sure the heck needs to know before he starts beating the hell out of me or caging me right? And if i'm in a hurt me and please don't cuddle me mood he needs to know that too. If you don't tell him how you're feeling how will he know why you are reacting the way you are to the stimuli that is being provided. Our mindset has alot to do with our physical reactions.

For example. One day being slammed up against the wall with a hand around my throat would totally make me melt, but on a different day i might collapse into tears or worse, knee him very hard in the groin. The Dom/Master?top whaterver... Aboslutely needs to know your emotional/mental state.




LaTigresse -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 10:52:58 AM)

I love trying new things and the creativity of two devious brains are far better than one.




fastlane -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 10:54:09 AM)

I know it is a terrible cliche' to use, but it does ring loud and true.
There is no such thing as a stupid question.
Too bad there is so many stupid people in the world though...[:(]
Ask me anything, Kevin




Najakcharmer -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 11:28:40 AM)

Depends entirely on how it's done.

Casual player comes up to me at a party and negotiates for the kind of scene he likes, that can be well and good if it's done respectfully and with consideration for my likes and limits as well.  In that case we're just two people who want to play together, and we decide together what would be fun for both of us.  Mind you, if he comes across as demanding or whiny, or gives me any reason to think that he's looking at me as a life support system for a whip that he can use for his wank fantasies, I'm outta there.  I only want to play casually with people who are genuinely friendly, who really like and respect me as a person, and who are interested in having a mutually enjoyable transaction rather than seeing what they can selfishly get for themselves with no real consideration for anyone else.

I always enjoy and appreciate a contribution of creative energy, ideas and impetus from the sub's side.  In fact, I need it in order to stay sane and healthy in a D/s relationship.  Life would pretty boring if I was the only one who ever thought up or initiated a scene.  I really don't want to be in a relationship with a male blow-up doll.  I don't think that a long term D/s relationship would be healthy or sustainable for me if I had to supply 100% of the creative energy and initiative in it.  In fact I'm having this specific issue in a current D/s relationship, and we're scheduling a time to sit down and communicate/negotiate some ways we can improve on this. 

I know myself well enough to say that the stresses of my everyday life are going to weigh me down enough on a day to day basis that my energy and impetus towards kink is likely to wear down considerably without an inflow of positive energy from a partner.  I need the impetus of active consent and initiative from my partner, or else I will eventually end up feeling drained and more likely to retreat into a book or my computer than to make a play date.  I have no interest in being the only responsible adult in a relationship, or in being the only person who is contributing any energy or initiative or creativity to our play.  When I start feeling like I'm stuck in that role, I end up in "top drop" and lose all my interest in playing for awhile.  So for me, if a subbie *doesn't* periodically approach me with good creative ideas, input and insights into our D/s relationship, requests to play, etc, I will lose interest in him and feel like I might as well go buy me a blow-up doll to beat on.  Booooring. 

As always, my answers may not necessarily be your answers, and what is true for me may not be true for you.




slaverosebeauty -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 1:55:47 PM)

I don't have a problem with bringing stuff up, during initial negoiations is a great time. As long as its done with respect I would say anytime is a good time. If you see something online or hear about something and it sounds like something you would like t try, bring it up. Your partner may be thinking the same thing.




BitaTruble -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 2:57:40 PM)

Ok, standard disclaimer.. make sure it's ok with your Master that you are allowed to ask. Simple really. If he says no, then don't.

Asking is not 'getting' nor is asking topping from the bottom. I don't really believe there is such a thing as topping from the bottom because to me, it's still the Top that has final say. If I ask for a beating and I happen to get one.. yes, I got what I asked for, but only because Himself wanted me to have a beating as well..  he can just as easily tell me 'no' and stick me in a corner somewhere. At least half, if not more of the wicked, evil, mean and nasty doings in this house come directly from my brain.. what a shame if that were cut off from use. We wouldn't have nearly as much fun. ::chuckles::

Celeste




swtnsparkling -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 4:33:48 PM)

quote:

There is no such thing as a stupid question.

 I used to think that myself.   But now after reading the CM boards for over six months I have changed my mind and now say, Oh hell yes there is too such a thing as a stupid question I have seen  a few.
 
Not at all  impling this is one of them, just a response too the quote.




Level -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 4:44:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sleazybutterfly

i am just curious.. do You care if Your sub/slave comes to You with ideas of things they would like to try?
 
i know that i have several fantasies..and ideas of different types of play or even scenes i would love to try.  i have noticed that in the past.. i have always been a bit shy or timid in bringing them up though.  i didn't want to feel as though i were topping from the bottom.
 
To go along with this a bit.. how about if maybe i am in a darker mood than my Master.. such as i need a stronger type of play that day.  Sometimes the flogger isn't enough.. i need it a little rougher.  Is it okay to bring this up also?
 
                      Thanks in advance.. i always enjoy reading the responses on here.
                                                          ~butterfly
 


Only you and your master can decide if it's okay to bring these things up. Speaking for myself, the answer is a resounding yes. I would not be satisfied with a submissive that can't or won't be willing to speak to me about.....EVERYTHING......... but, as Wolfnman said, respectfully.




feastie -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 4:51:01 PM)

If you're unsure about what your Master will say, broach the subject gently.  "Master, may I ask you a question?"  He's almost certain to say yes...lol.  "Master, I've been having some thoughts regarding play I'd like to try, is it ok if we talk about it?
He'll either say yes or no, and unless he's a twit, you've said nothing to for which to be "punished". 

Go for it!  My formers LOVED creativity and to hear what I was interested in.




spankmepink11 -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 5:13:17 PM)

I've  been  lucky,  the few that i've had relationships with encouraged me to be very very open about my desires.,needs ,  fantasies... and  if  They so  desired, They  incorporated it into the relationship. 

I'd say anything broached respectfully would not warrant punishment




champagnewishes -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 5:26:38 PM)

I guess i have been one of the luckier ones...I have never had a Dom who hasn't asked me is there something i would like to have incorporated into a scene.  Nor one that hasn't asked me prior to a scene how i am feeling as He explains His expectations as well as any concerns i might be having.  This of course isn't to say that everything is always this preplanned out or that i even have a say in everything.  But for the most part, i have always been asked at some point and time.




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 5:43:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirWolfnman

I  would say its ok to bring it up to your Master but in a respectful manner. In the past i have subs/slaves do just that and it was a very rewarding time for the both of us

I agree. I listen to any new ideas that my girls would like to try.




FloridaISIS -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 5:59:39 PM)

I love when a submissive opens his mind to Me. Think of transparency training; teaching the sub to never hide any feelings, worries, wants, dreams, or concerns from the Dominant. For them to feel totally safe with Me, to open up to Me about everything and anything under the sun is what I strive for.
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Like the saying goes, "you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar." 

quote:

ORIGINAL: feastie

If you're unsure about what your Master will say, broach the subject gently.  "Master, may I ask you a question?"  He's almost certain to say yes...lol.  "Master, I've been having some thoughts regarding play I'd like to try, is it ok if we talk about it?
He'll either say yes or no, and unless he's a twit, you've said nothing to for which to be "punished". 

Go for it!  My formers LOVED creativity and to hear what I was interested in.

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I wish you the best with this.

Peace and love,
Isis




destinykitty -> RE: Do You care if they ask?? (5/24/2006 7:38:06 PM)

Master likes it when I make suggestions and have ideas about things to try it takes some of the pressure from him to try and work out new things and we can have a lot of fun with it. He gets me to write him stories every so often and most times those stories end up filled with the things that I really really want to do but feel to shy to ask to do, Sometime he will see or hear something and turn to me and ask how I feel about or I will comment on how much fun something looks. There is a lot of conversation on every topic under the sun between Master and I he is not just some unreachable Master who does only what he wants to but rather takes the things i enjoy in to consideration, but it always him that decided if we do what every I have asked or not.

Destinykitty




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