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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/16/2011 11:14:57 PM

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But I thought when I hit 40 I suddenly have the entire knowledge of the world enter my brain all at once?!

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 3:21:36 AM

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But I thought when I hit 40 I suddenly have the entire knowledge of the world enter my brain all at once?!

On your fortieth birthday, you'll look back at that post 38 years before and realise just how silly you were being . ;-)

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 3:24:41 AM

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I plan to get hit by a bus at age 34.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 3:32:30 AM

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This slogan would be a non starter with the right wing Christians. Cuss word, you know.

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How about "Give a damn, self-exam!" lol

What about the left wing christians? Would they be ok with it?

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 3:40:35 AM

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I plan to get hit by a bus at age 34.

Gee isn't it a shame people need to derail.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 3:52:31 AM

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I agree. PeonForHer needs to keep on topic.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 3:54:40 AM

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As always, people who have authority not derived from consent of the governed are shit. Cops, teachers, prison guards, immigration people - all the exact same, because they all have that in common. They have power which is issued to them by someone who is not directly affected by the way they choose to wield it.

Obviously no public school should be determining dress codes which are more stringent than those enforced by state law (IE cover up your naughty bits). There is absolutely no rationalization which can be made for taking that decision out of the hands of the parent and the student, and in my discussions with school officials regarding similar issues in the past they usually tend to know that. It's just a power play. Tiny people with a tiny bit of power. Nothing more.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 5:05:53 AM

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x Tiny people with a tiny bit of power. Nothing more.

I don't think I'd have felt that way if I were the headmaster in this situation. I know enough about the profession of teaching of minors to know that those in it feel pretty powerless most of the time. You, the educator, are always beset on three sides: from the government, from the parents, and from the kids themselves. Much of the time there'd be a policy decision that you'd come to as a head that jars with what you think would be best for the kids, but which you know you have to put up with because otherwise you'll get one or more of those three groups on your back. Granted, police often need to be reminded that they're public servants. Educators, on the other hand, seldom forget it.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 7:59:45 AM

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Yeah, no guy will say in that locker room... "Damn I'd feel for Julie's lumps."

I'm well aware that they would - but my point was that these are the same guys who make lewd comments about the cheerleaders in their normal attire ... but that doesn't mean that they are groping them at random - so what is the difference? While I haven't been to a high school sporting event in years, the last time I was, the cheerleaders wore skirts that barely covered their butts, and shirts that showed their mid-riff that were skin tight. So what makes a shirt with a risque slogan worse than being 1/2 dressed?

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 10:46:48 AM

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You have a point. The slogan might even make cheerleaders marginally less tawdry and shudder-inducing to watch.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 10:50:54 AM

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Leadership and team work.

OK, and just exactly how will a pink t-shirt with a witty reference to breasts on it will distract them from that if this doesn't?

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 11:24:24 AM

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Do people get searched for grenades when entering football matches your side of the pond?

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 11:36:50 AM

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Yeah, no guy will say in that locker room... "Damn I'd feel for Julie's lumps."

I'm well aware that they would - but my point was that these are the same guys who make lewd comments about the cheerleaders in their normal attire ... but that doesn't mean that they are groping them at random - so what is the difference? While I haven't been to a high school sporting event in years, the last time I was, the cheerleaders wore skirts that barely covered their butts, and shirts that showed their mid-riff that were skin tight. So what makes a shirt with a risque slogan worse than being 1/2 dressed?

It's not. Neither one imo is very good for the girls. I personally would never ever allow my daughter to wear a cheerleading outfit like that. Thankfully she was not into cheerleading and found cheerleaders to be well...ditzy.

I'm always amazed that parents allow their 12 to 17 year old daughters wear such "uniforms".

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 11:41:01 AM

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Do people get searched for grenades when entering football matches your side of the pond?

At my daughter's school you had a metal detector wand waved over you for guns and if you were a known druggie you were searched for drugs.

They also have metal detectors installed in the doorways and doors are locked as soon as you enter and you had to buzz to be allowed in. Cameras were also installed in classrooms and hallways and exterior.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 11:47:52 AM

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My ditzy honor roll cheerleader daughter is a well-behaved, thoughtful child who loves cheerleading. As you can see from the picture posted above, cheerleaders have to wear a special covering over their underwear. Those are called, believe it or not, bloomers. The girls are wearing short skirts for sure, but they are completely (and doubly) covered because under the bloomers, they have a leotard on. So...underwear, leotard, bloomer. They are checked and fitted so that nothing naughty is ever seen. It's basically what gymnasts wear with a skirt a shirt (and bloomers) covering it. I've always thought cheerleader uniforms were cute, personally.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 12:03:08 PM

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but Chrissy.. regardless of what they are ACTUALLY wearing.. it HINTS at less..

ok, I'm not a parent.. and I do understand that the school admins are thinking about so-called impropriety/lawsuits..

but.. undergarments or no.. those girls are showing one hell of a lot more than is exposed by a tshirt, one that has a slogan on it that is actually (given current advertising, and television show innuendos) pretty friggin tame..

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 12:18:14 PM

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Sure, it hints at less. But it's not. They're wearing more than a gymnast or a wrestler wears. Cheerleader uniforms have been pretty universal over the years, and even though they do hint at less, it's not actually the case.

I personally don't want my 12 (or 14 or 15) year old daughter wearing a shirt with that particular slogan. There were MANY they could have chosen, and they chose that.

All parents have to make their own decisions. If she were going to that school, she would not have worn that shirt even if it would have been approved.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 12:23:17 PM

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I found myself distracted by the inconsistencies of that photo. Funny how the kicks of the girls on the right are so much higher than the ones on the left that are at more modest levels, further on the down the line where the camera just doesn't happen to aimed at their crotches. Almost like a group of girls was deliberately trying to show a lot of crotch for a photo op, and then it got photoshopped onto another photo. Their legs all seem to have almost the same athletic musculature, too. Same planted foot, while the ones at the other end are varied and more tippy-toed. Ah well, maybe they're sisters, and maybe the school has a different choreographer for each end of the line.

It is a cute photo, though. I bet a lot of guys.....and lesbians.....put it in their wanker file for future use.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 12:39:25 PM

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The slogan is inappropriate. It being inappropriate has nothing to do with teenage sexuality. Teenagers are horny little buggers; always have been and always will be (Hell, when I was fifteen all you had to do was say the word “girl” and I got half a stiffie). The only difference between teenagers today and those of generations past is that today’s teenagers have access to technology that lets them flaunt their sexuality to a larger number of people. The slogan will not incite some teenage boy to grab a girl’s breast uninvited (any boy so inclined to violate such a social taboo doesn’t need a t-shirt to egg him on).

The slogan is inappropriate because it trivializes a very serious disease that maims and kills women and leaves grieving family and friends behind. The purpose of the slogan is noble and there is nothing wrong with wanting something memorable and perhaps even a little light hearted but those who came up with it went too far. They wanted a rhyme, they wanted something cute and they got it but it detracts from the actual message: regular self exams of your breasts can save your life.

The slogan is also inappropriate because they were in a public venue and there is a difference between public and private. That's what these kids don't understand and that is what they need to be taught.

What these girls should have been told was that, yes, there are dozens of slang terms for breasts ranging from funny to silly to offensive but because we want people to focus on a serious medical issue and a means of prevention we should stick with the term “breasts.” That is the appropriate term for them in public. When you are alone with your friends, when you are having a private conversation (I would include on-line forums, chat rooms, etc) and you’re having a giggle, by all means call them bumps, bongos, melons, tits, or whatever you want. When in a public venue discussing a life threatening illness, the proper term is breasts.

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RE: Breast Cancer T-Shirts for Cheerleaders - 10/17/2011 12:51:01 PM

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I found myself distracted by the inconsistencies of that photo. Funny how the kicks of the girls on the right are so much higher than the ones on the left that are at more modest levels, further on the down the line where the camera just doesn't happen to aimed at their crotches. Almost like a group of girls was deliberately trying to show a lot of crotch for a photo op, and then it got photoshopped onto another photo. Their legs all seem to have almost the same athletic musculature, too. Same planted foot, while the ones at the other end are varied and more tippy-toed. Ah well, maybe they're sisters, and maybe the school has a different choreographer for each end of the line.

It is a cute photo, though. I bet a lot of guys.....and lesbians.....put it in their wanker file for future use.

I thnk it may have been a Rockettes kind of kick line

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