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Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 1:04:18 PM   
ImBella


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I have been struggling internally, debating if I should write to seek advice or not.  Part of me thinks I should have known better, while the rest of me just feels blind-sided.
 
I joined CM back in February as a newbie, after having learned about this lifestyle from a friend I met on myspace.  I did some research online on my own, and he answered any questions I was unable to find answers to.  I made a profile here, and in it, I was honest about what I seeking and my level of inexperience.  I received several messages and offers to chat and through the process of elimation, began seriously chatting online with a Dom in the beginning of March.  He was not local, but he also wasn't too terribly far way either, where it would be difficult for us to meet one another when we felt it was appropriate.  We chatted online just about every night, as he wanted to train me online, and we became very close.  He told me he felt I was progressing nicely and would like to for us to finally meet one another at the end of this month. 
 
Shortly after we began chatting seriously, he opened up and told me that he had some health issues earlier last year, and required extensive surgery for some heart problems.  He was fully recovered from the surgery, and was doing well, but felt I should know about this.  Last month, he began telling me during our chats that he was experiencing chest pains.  I encouraged him to go to his doctor and be examined, and at the end of April, he told me had an appointment with his cardiologist.  I didn't hear from him for several days, and when I finally did, he told me he was in the hospital for some tests, and they found a blockage they wanted to address with surgery.  He told me he expected to be there for about another week.  I didn't hear from him again for another couple of days, and was very worried about him.  I continually sent him emails, letting him know I was thinking about him, and hoped he was doing well.  In the next email I received from him, he explained that he had taken 2 heart attacks, and required extensive surgery since I heard from him last and his implanted defibulator had needed to be replaced as it had not done it's job during his last heart attack.  He told me he was in excrutiating pain, and could not chat much from his laptop in his room because it was interfering with his EKG machine.  I sent him back a message, letting him know that I was praying for him, and asked him to send me a phone number for me to call him, since he couldn't chat online.  I didn't hear from him again for a couple more days, and was online typing him an email when he appeard online.  We chatted for a bit, and he told me he was doing well, but very sore.  While we were chatting, his nurse came into the room to give him his medication, and my Dom requested I chat with her for a few minutes.  She told me it was touch and go for a while, but he was doing better.  My Dom came back online and said his medication was making him sleepy, so I told him I wouldn't keep him, and we could chat at another time when he was feeling a little better.  The following day I received a message from his nurse.  In it she said that my Dom had an unexpected problem occur, and was rushed back up to surgery and was now in the CCU.  She said that before he left, he asked her to message me to let me know what was going on, and he had her permission to keep me informed as to his condition.  She suggested I pray for him as his prognosis looked grim.  Naturally I was extremely worried about him.  I sent her a message, thanking her for letting me know, and requested she please keep me informed of his condition when she was able.  Days went by before I heard anything more.  I agonized thinking the worst had happened, and he had not made it.  I finally received a message from his nurse telling me he was back in his room, and doing much better.  After a few days, I heard from my Dom as well.  He sent me a romanitic card, in which he told me he loved me, which he had not previously ever told me.  He seemed to be improving and I was so grateful and relieved that he was going to be alright.  I chatted with him a couple more times over the next few days, and he told me that since he was going to have to postpone our meeting, (which he was very upset about), he was assigning a task for me to complete.  He wanted me to search on CM to find some female subs to become friends with. 
 
The following day while doing this, I came across a profile of a DaddyDom that was seeking a little girl.  As I read this profile, it became evidently apparent it was made by my Dom.  I wasn't 100% sure, as it had no picture of him, but I knew.  I made a new profile, in which I stated I was looking for the same things he was offering, and received a reply from him about an hour later.  The reply included the very same pic he had sent me back in March.  He told me that he was single, and would like to chat with me.  I agreed.  We began chatting in an instant message, and he had no clue it was me.  The conversation immediately turned sexual, and he told me that he had no other slaves or sub, nor had he in quite a while.  I asked him where he was chatting with me from, home or work.  He replied that he was at home, but would be leaving for work shortly.  At this point, I brought the conversation to a halt and informed him I was not who he thought I was, and that it was me, his sub.  I asked him if he had been in the hospital, as he told me he had, and he said no.  I was stunned, furious. 
 
I asked him why he would do this to me, allow me to sit here, worrying about him, day after day, thinking at times he was dead, and I received no answer.  Shortly afterward, he signed offline.  I waited a while to see if he would return, but he did not.  I sat down and typed him an email, and when I tried to send it, it came back that his email account was gone.  I signed onto CM, his account here was also gone. 
 
It has been a few days since this occurred, and I've had much time to think about this, but I have been unable to come up with a plausible reason for why he did this.  Throughout the months we chatted online, I bared my soul to him, and I feel very hurt and angry about this turn of events.  Along with being angry with him, I am also angry with myself for being so trusting of him.  This whole series of events has left a very bitter taste in my mouth, and the thoughts of exposing myself emotionally again to someone else is a frightening thought. 
 
I don't understand why this person would go to such extremes as to allow me to think he was dying, when he could have just been honest with me and told me to take a hike. 
 
Bella
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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 1:27:13 PM   
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My first thought after reading your post was what a lousy thing that was for this guy to do to you. Wow. Thats a hard pill to swallow on many levels. Im sure you want to kick yourself, and kick him. You probably just keep chaning the order of who to kick first. Sometimes him, sometimes you.

I suggest you take a break from chatting with strangers for a month or so. Just to get back some sort of balance. You need a break from the whole thing. You wouldnt be any good at it anyway. You cant possibly trust anything anyone has to say at the moment.

The good news is all you lost was your time. You didnt embarrass yourself in front of the world. Just in front of an idiot. And that really doesnt matter much in the grand scheme of things. And now you have a better idea of how much time and energy to sink into an online person before you meet. You're a lot more experienced and clued in at this point.

Im sure most of the people who respond to this point will empathize with your plight. Just think about how it could have been worse. Your not so bad off really. Just bruised and sore, but all the wiser. I wish you better luck ahead.

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 1:36:18 PM   
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ImBella,
I apologize for all the idiots out there.  Your not the first girl to fall for such a play.   You seem very sweet and all of us want to see the best in people, but it doesnt always happen.  There are some that feel that this is some sort of a game and it empowers them to feel so needed by someone and its no more than a game.  Hell..even locally..not even long distance you get people that do this to others.  Keep your chin up girl and dont worry..you will find the one for you....there has to be an honest, loving Dom out there for you.  Dont let one idiot tarnish your views on the lifestyle..there are some good people out there....you just have to be choosy.
Safe Journey, be well

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 1:38:57 PM   
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You didn't have any reason not to trust, so don't be hard on yourself. Some people are just out there to manipulate others for their own enjoyment. Some of them are even calling themselves dominants. Your instincts obviously kicked in at the right time, and that's what they're for. That's the real lesson here--not to refuse to be vulnerable, but to always, always trust your gut over your heart. 

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 1:40:14 PM   
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I feel so sorry for you, and I hope that when you're ready to open up again you'll find someone who deserves you (and vice versa of course..). The assholes are usually the ones more visible but I'm sure you'll be able to find a great Dom somewhere out there :)

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 1:45:37 PM   
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I was actually with you until the "nurse started chatting with me."  No nurse is going to do that, let alone write emails.

Sorry things went so long and so hard- people really DO create "fake life stories" like this and keep them going for months or more.  And it happens a lot more than people tend to think.

But you know now, and next time, get with someone you will definitely see once a week.

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 1:48:39 PM   
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Damn....
I will only say that I truly believe in Kharma...he's going to have really bad shiat happen to him.
My Kharma is good and I plan on keeping it that way...despite what a few may think.
Winks, Kevin

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 1:56:00 PM   
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Wow ImBella, that is a whole lot of drama for someone newly searching.  First of all, I'm sorry this happened to you, and you're hurt by it.
I'm wondering why/how you got so close to someone with whom you apparently never even spoke on the phone?   I personally don't like to go looking for information confirming or refuting whatever my instincts tell me, but I do seek or ask the person, when some ill feelings seep in and I need confirmation.

Is it possible you're this vulnerable to believing anyone requiring/getting no evidence?  You're only 36yo, so am wondering what type of relationship you seek, and whether you realize how limiting severe heart disease is.   Why would you be so aggressively trying to meet someone who is amidst heart attacks?  Did you ever ask where his family was, and why he was going through all of this alone?

It's not impossible for someone you've just met online to get sick, but it is a frequently used excuse.  I've met people online who after/before disappearing tell me they've been hospitalized with kidney stones, heart catheterization, mother died, last dom/mina dies often, heart surgery, etc.etc.
It is probably best for you to go to munches/attend real life events where you can meet friends, talk to people face to face, and while online, use your common sense/instinct for self preservation, so that you'll be less of a prey for all the sick phucks of the world with access to the internet.   M

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 2:33:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

Is it possible you're this vulnerable to believing anyone requiring/getting no evidence?  You're only 36yo, so am wondering what type of relationship you seek, and whether you realize how limiting severe heart disease is.   Why would you be so aggressively trying to meet someone who is amidst heart attacks?  Did you ever ask where his family was, and why he was going through all of this alone?


Dear BlkTallFullfig,

Thank you for your very kind words and support.

When I began chatting with him, I was unaware of the health problems.  When he finally opened up and told me about them, he assured me he had made a full recovery and it would not be an issue.  Being that  he works in the medical field, I felt he would know more about what he was capable of doing than I would.  Although I did not speak with him via phone from the "hospital", he has called me from his home several times, prior to this. 

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 2:38:33 PM   
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I'm sorry you and anyone else that has been through this kind of thing.

Unfortunately, there ARE just SOME assholes out there behind a screen.

I have been online long enough to have pretty much heard it all.  This type of scenario is nothing knew i'm afraid. 

Let it roll off your back as a lesson learned and move on.

I wish you much peace...

~smilezz~



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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 2:45:17 PM   
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Free clue: No nurse is going to go online with you in the way you describe.

General rule: the more "drama" that occurs the more suspicious you should get.  Before you get more than mildly interested in a guy (or gal for you guys) get some personal information that you can confirm through an independent source or a third party.  For example, Libby called Erdos & Morgan and talked to my assistant's secretary to confirm that I was really there before we started making plans to meet.

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 2:50:36 PM   
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as usual..good advice, John.
As for libby...I hear Elvis singing suspicious minds..was that song about you?...Tee hee
I applaud you for it...I wouldn't have trusted John either.....smiles, Kevin

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 3:34:49 PM   
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I'm so sorry you've been put through this. I've been played online before. It hasn't happened for quite a while now though. I'm very suspicious when talking to someone new and look for red flags such as immediate demands for off site contact info, sexual talk early on, cam requests and demands, wanting sexual things done on cam, etc.

Best advice I can give you that was also given to me is to get out to munches and such. Meet people in your area into this. I've yet to go to a munch myself but I am involved in local groups in my community and go to parties and small get togethers and have made friends I spend time with. Believe me it makes quite a difference.

Don't look to rush into a relationship yet. First take time to learn and understand who you are and what you want and need. Experience life and enjoy it.

Just my thoughts.

Oh and welcome to the boards! Spending time here reading and asking questions will help you too. I know it has me a good bit.

edited for making one word out of two at first...sigh

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 3:47:00 PM   
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I hope your story helps others and thanks for posting it. I would add here that if you had no phone number for that long of time it is a red flag. People should exchange cell phones soon after chatting and landlines when they are going to meet with someone from a significant distance away and continue an online romance. I would have red flags about anyone I could not call and leave messages for. I bet this guy is married hun, he never gave you a phone number... It is a COMMON  thing to have happen.. and the best one can do to protect one's self is to get a cell that you can call within reason any time, and a landline that you can call before you meet.

Good luck to you, and may this learning experience be worth the pain in the long run...sighs

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 4:14:10 PM   
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I think thats happened to most at one time or another, it does suck that there are people like that....and it never ceases to amaze me what lengths and lies some will go to.

I like to think  think Kharma catches up to people like  that as well.

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 4:30:05 PM   
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Like LA I was right there with you, untill the nurse, then I thought "hmmmm' I can't think of any nurse that would do that....

Sadly this man was cruel to you, very cruel to accept your trust then abuse it like that.  It is very cruel to stringsomeone along with a made up story, especially when health is involved.  I am sorry this happened to you,  unfortunatally, when dealing with people online I've found that less then half of what has been said is true.  I ran a server for an RPG game and learned a lot about human nature and the lies that people tell online.

The good news is, he's gone, and once you pick yourself up and have given yourself time to heal, you have a fresh start and can find a Dom who is real, will see you in real life ad could just be the man of your life...

good luck

~dancer

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 5:07:46 PM   
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I first became suspicious when the heart problems kept on coming.  My father has had two heart attacks, a quadruple bypass and a couple of stents implanted.  As someone who has watched a lot of heart problems in action, all the "surgeries" just didn't seem plausible.  Having worked in a hospital, it would be very unlikely someone would have their laptop with them on the heart pavilion in any case.  Then there was the nurse, chatting with her.  Definitely not something a nurse would do.

All that being re-hashed, I will say this to the OP.  For many people, the internet and the people who use it are just fodder for a game.  It seems that the motivation is simply because they can.  I've seen many, many people fake their own death to get out of a meet.  Then, oddly, some family member will come to the place where the "dead" person chats or posts to let everyone know about the tragedy.  I can promise you, none of my family members will come let anyone online know that I've gone to the chatroom in the sky.

Point is, OP.  You've learned one of the toughest rules of the internet.  People are not always honest.  Don't let that scare you off, just let it serve as a guide.



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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 5:20:07 PM   
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There are indeed a few good storys here, unfortunately yours is not one of them.
At least you did not send him and $$$$$.

Things could have been worse.
My suggestion is get incontact with your "local" scene and get off line for a while and meet real people face to face. The internet is a good resource  but it is also full of thieves and liers.
If you do meet someone on-line ask for references and check them out well.



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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/24/2006 5:51:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I was actually with you until the "nurse started chatting with me."  No nurse is going to do that, let alone write emails.


Agreed LA...that's where it lost it for me as well.

I'm sorry Bella...your story goes on the list of top 10 unusually cruel and vicious stories.

Don't be angry with yourself...learn from it...but don't beat yourself up over it.  When your feeling better, i'll share my story of how i got sucked in by a Dom i met here several years ago that turned out to be a convicted felon that had jumped bail and was on the lamb....(true story)

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RE: Confused and dejected - 5/25/2006 12:06:56 AM   
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Bella,

I feel for you, I really do, so please don't take this the wrong way.. but I see this so much as a woman who heard what she wanted to hear and didn't allow the red flags to go up because she didn't want to see them. There is a lesson here ... but it's not to watch out for those who will play you ... it's to be alert to your own internal warning system so that you don't 'allow' others to play you. Let common sense be your best guide so you don't become common fodder for the next player who comes along with a good story to tell.

Before you get upset, let me make a few observations about your post, just so that you can see that you 'did' have red flags. First, he asked you to go look for female submissives to talk to.. but something made you stop and read the profile of a male dominant while you were looking. Reading that, in turn, gave you pause.. so, you played his game to 'catch' him. IE. You made a phony profile yourself to engage him in chat to see if he was lying. That suggests to me, that your trust levels were down.. and the red flags were up. You need to ask yourself 'why'.. so that you can recognize those red flags if it happens again and respond to them as needed.

Also, take care before you bare your soul to an anonymous screenname on the Internet. You can always do that after you meet.. see if there is chemistry in a toes to toes, nose to nose situation.. see if the guy is worth baring your soul. Take some time.. heal from this and realize that healing is a process. It's OK to be mad, at him, at yourself.. but don't be mad at everyone who comes along because not everyone is like him.. and it would be a shame to lose out on the chance of a connection. Being a 'bit' jaded is probably a good thing, but try not to let yourself get too cynical. Maybe go a bit slower next time.. don't give your trust to easily to strangers who won't meet you or come up with excuses and .. think about this, too.. the guy had his 'nurse' contacting you.. which means he would have to give his password out to a complete stranger.. kinky people don't, generally, do such things.

I'm not trying to be harsh here at all and if I've overstepped my bounds, I apologize because it's really not my business and I know that ... but I hate to see those who are new and trying to learn allow their excitement on the discoveries before them get sucked in by the users and abusers out there. It doesn't have to be that way if you'll trust your own instincts.

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