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Hera462 -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 12:42:16 PM)

That is not what she said at all. No one is saying that people can not have a personal preference. I know i have mine. But i do not openly bash or question people just because they are or like something different. I will not post a thread or inject into conversation how much i hate chocolate, and can not understand why anyone would like it, Or even ask why it exists and doesn't change into a better flavor i find more palatable. I will simply elect pistachio when i have the choice in front of me. 




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 12:54:57 PM)

You are misunderstanding the context, NS.  No one is saying anyone has to be attracted to overweight people.  One is also allowed to think what they like about someone else, because of their weight or whatever else.  But why comment on it?  And why say things like, no one could possibly be attracted to an overweight person, overweight women can't even give it away, etc. Which is basically what the OP says.  Now THAT makes one a bigot.
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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

What would you call it? Mild distaste? Bigotry is bigotry.


What a dumb post.

So if I prefer slender females I am now a bigot towards fat females.  I also prefer females overall, so I'm also a bigot to gay men.

Everyone's a bigot.





NocturnalStalker -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:05:00 PM)

Uh, in her preceding post she was mentioning how society teaches us to be tolerant of all race/culture/etc. yet not to be tolerant of fat people.  Considering bigotry is an overwhelming intolerance, yes that is what she said.

I can be tolerant of overweight people.  If my girlfriend became large eventually, I'd still be into her since obviously she had more than just a pretty face and body to draw me to her.  It's not in my preference, however and she would know me enough to know that and hopefully change that.  If not?  I could probably make the exception, unless it is becoming too hazardous.

I could easily call her a bigot since she has me blocked.  And bigotry is to be utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.  In fact, my accusation would be more accurate.




GreedyTop -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:14:56 PM)

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You are misunderstanding the context, NS. No one is saying anyone has to be attracted to overweight people. One is also allowed to think what they like about someone else, because of their weight or whatever else. But why comment on it? And why say things like, no one could possibly be attracted to an overweight person, overweight women can't even give it away, etc. Which is basically what the OP says. Now THAT makes one a bigot.


And dont forget the allegation from the OP:
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Very seldom is there a woman considered slender, thin, average or whatever. No I dont think I'm gods gift to women or whatever. Just kinda wonder if there's something psychological there. A lot of women here have those force/rape fantasies. In everyday life in general a woman around 200 pounds isn't going to draw much attention from anyone who would actually force someone. is that part of it? Is it more of a fantasy to submit because its unlikely it would ever happen in real life.




agirl -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:18:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sherrr

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Honestly, I wish women would stop buying the shitty magazines that continually purvey this 'ideal' of ill-looking stick-thinness.



I saw this in a film once. It's a fun test.

Question #1: Would you date someone who is significantly overweight?

Question #2: Have you?



I spent some time with a grossly obese man.( I don't date).He was incredibly interesting and a fabulous bloke and yes, we fucked.

Clearly I have.

agirl




Arienos -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:30:44 PM)

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Your first comment was a rejection of the fact that the stereotype and bashing exists.

Indeed I am free to do as I chose and will exercise that right up to the cost of my own life and the life of others if need be.
My first comment was made to Hib, and had absolutely nothing at all to do with a rejection of the fact that the stereotype and bashing exists, it was directed at prejudice and bigotry being the reason for others choices and I remain firm in my thinking that prejudice and bigotry are not the root or foundation for preference in every human being.





Iamsemisweet -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:40:03 PM)

She had said a lot of other things before that, though, which context also needs to be considered.  I am sure Hib can defend her comment herself, though, if she feels the need. 
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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

Uh, in her preceding post she was mentioning how society teaches us to be tolerant of all race/culture/etc. yet not to be tolerant of fat people.  Considering bigotry is an overwhelming intolerance, yes that is what she said.

I can be tolerant of overweight people.  If my girlfriend became large eventually, I'd still be into her since obviously she had more than just a pretty face and body to draw me to her.  It's not in my preference, however and she would know me enough to know that and hopefully change that.  If not?  I could probably make the exception, unless it is becoming too hazardous.

I could easily call her a bigot since she has me blocked.  And bigotry is to be utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.  In fact, my accusation would be more accurate.





nancygirl34652 -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:45:01 PM)

omg....she hates chocolate??!!!???




Hillwilliam -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:45:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: nancygirl34652

omg....she hates chocolate??!!!???

fuckin PERVERT!!! [8D]




Clickofheels -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:46:05 PM)

Before I add my comment to the masses, please this disclaimer:

A) I am NOT singling any particular person out...this is a blanket opinion.
B) My comments are NOT due to any personal frustrations, nor unrepressed anger, nor the act of being judgmental, nor the desire to place myself "above" anyone else.
C) I am not into bullying nor being bullied, chastising nor being chastised.
D) I refuse to argue with anyone over what I have chosen to say.
E) And no animals were used in an inhumane manner during the course of posting this comment.

Now that I have attempted to cover my Dominant derriere, and before exhaustion sets in, I'd best post my comments.... <laughs>...which are:


I've noticed with surprise that (seemingly) many obese/grossly obese women patronize this website...Dominants and submissives alike.
***Please note I said "seemingly" because obviously it's next to impossible to view everyone!***

So for those new to the lifestyle and/or this website, it COULD BE why some people may get the impression that only OBESE women (and let us not forget the men) are drawn to this life. (Of course myself and the rest of you know that is not the case.)

We certainly can agree that obesity/gross obesity are rampant in this country...both between women AND men!
Science/medical/health insurance research places OBESITY (resources: American Journal of Science, American Medical Association, and Wellmark Blue Cross and Blue Shield) as the second leading cause of death and rising insurance costs in this country. That's alarming to me!! And considering how easily it would be to change those statistics...?

I feel, and have come to know through others, that (for the most part) maintaining your eating and exercise habits is dependent on how you choose to view your self worth. It's like the desire to practice personal hygiene habits and live within a clean environment. When you decide you are worth the effort, you find the desire.

I know there are people who can't help their weight situation due to illness, medical problems, etc. But for so many, there are people who could lose weight and thereby enhance their self image and confidence.
I've been on both sides of the proverbial weight coin...I know what I am saying.

Be well, be healthy, and be safe!

Respectfully submitted,
Clickofheels; Female Dominant








GreedyTop -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:50:09 PM)

10' pole... is not distant enough...




agirl -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:57:20 PM)

The OP didn't bash fat girls, he said he noticed that there was a large percentage of them.............Frankly from people I know that go to clubs, munches and play parties..... there are. 

He probably would be asking different questions if he only ever saw average to skinny girls. It comes up because it's noticeable.

So what? I'd wonder the same things if it was average girls. * Why don't fat girls..........* etc etc...

Look we ALL know that fat, extra rolls round the middle, blubber, wadges, wobbly bits, cellulite on a big scale etc , isn't drooled over as a rule ..but many people, male or female. have partners that are driven wild by them all the same.

As NS says ** If my girlfriend became large eventually, I'd still be into her since obviously she had more than just a pretty face and body to draw me to her.  It's not in my preference, however and she would know me enough to know that and hopefully change that.  If not?  I could probably make the exception, unless it is becoming too hazardous.

There has to be a reason that dopey people make pre-nups regarding physical attributes.. * Only if you stay slim and within *** and *** lbs. Would anyone here get hitched to that one?

NS was realistic.

I'm not as firm as I was 10 yrs ago, I'm 54yrs....I expected to maintain my normal shape with little effort but I've never been 54 before! I'm not anything LIKE as interested as I was, nor do I have the same energy. (never thought I'd say that, either)

I cycled 50 miles last week, I'm just not going to maintain that, unless it interests me in other ways as well as the the health aspect.

Not one partner has ever cared less or fancied me less when I wasn't in full fitness or shape. Having been slim most of my life, but also having had a fairly brief fat time too, being fancied by my bloke didn't skip a step.

If they made me feel yummy, I was oh so primed to be wanton and wild.

agirl




nancygirl34652 -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 1:58:59 PM)

ok...i just formulated my answer to the OP's original question...and i do believe it really is everyone's answer if they really think about it: i don't know....would have been a much shorter thread...*grins*




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 2:05:24 PM)

aGirl, we would be a lot less huffy if the OP hadnt gone on to talk about how a fat gal couldnt get raped because she was undesirable...




agirl -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 2:48:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Clickofheels


I feel, and have come to know through others, that (for the most part) maintaining your eating and exercise habits is dependent on how you choose to view your self worth. It's like the desire to practice personal hygiene habits and live within a clean environment. When you decide you are worth the effort, you find the desire.

I know there are people who can't help their weight situation due to illness, medical problems, etc. But for so many, there are people who could lose weight and thereby enhance their self image and confidence.
I've been on both sides of the proverbial weight coin...I know what I am saying.

Be well, be healthy, and be safe!

Respectfully submitted,
Clickofheels; Female Dominant







Most of the girls I know don't know what *healthy* is.......they think it's one kebab less.........lol.

The boys are FAR more aware as they care about their bodies and not about their *looks*. I live with 4 x 18yrold lads on average, and they are far more interested in decent home-grown, home-cooked grub than the girls that pop in. And the boys are all pin thin.

No-one should piss about being gits toward anyone for their physical shape. Be a drive, not a shit-storm.

I'm genetically primed to be on the average side, my two eldest are primed to be on the fat side, the two youngest are thin as rakes.

The youngest two can eat hideous amounts of grub and still are 6'' tall and ripped guys. My daughter is big by any standards. She just cannot eat the way the boys can. Different genes...different Dads. Too bad.

All the same ..... it's still a matter of finding what keeps you fit. I can only do uber amounts of cycling if I can fit it in. I can see quite well why people do NOT bother, frankly. If I had a partner that wasn't pushy, I'd settle for being a podge for a while again. It had it's upsides.

agirl








LadyHibiscus -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 2:52:04 PM)

It's so the opposite here, the girls are health mad, the boys will eat any damn thing!




Ninebelowzero -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 3:05:48 PM)

But mostly the girls by choice.
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

It's so the opposite here, the girls are health mad, the boys will eat any damn thing!





agirl -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 3:06:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

aGirl, we would be a lot less huffy if the OP hadnt gone on to talk about how a fat gal couldnt get raped because she was undesirable...


He was clumsy on the rape thing,.....he wasn't rabid, rude or evil.

My eldest son was raped.. Getting huffy makes no difference.

A guy, asking a dumbish question isn't going to get punched by me.

agirl






CalifChick -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 3:34:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: agirl

The OP didn't bash fat girls, he said he noticed that there was a large percentage of them.............Frankly from people I know that go to clubs, munches and play parties..... there are. 



So perhaps it's that fat chicks are more outgoing and extroverted than skinny chicks. In many groups I've joined, there were a large percentage of fat chicks, moreso than the general population. So the outgoing chicks who volunteer to help the homeless, give up their own holidays to feed the poor, spend time in Big Brothers/Big Sisters, get involved in live community theatre, teach adults how to read, even get involved in the SCA... do we see a pattern here? Maybe it's not "this lifestyle" (blecchhhh), maybe it's the fat chick personality.

FatChickCali
(who has done all of those volunteer things and then some)




Hisprettybaby -> RE: Are overweight women drawn to this lifestyle? (10/25/2011 3:53:06 PM)

I'm just gonna tackle all these at once:
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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep
Men have man-boobs, paunches, extra chins, and lovehandles, too, but somehow it's like they feel entitled to be fat, while still believing that women should, at all times, conform to the thin=beauty standard.
average and chubby men really have no business chastising similarly shaped/sized women, and yet for some reason, they are more than willing to do so. if you look through profiles, you will see plenty of fat men, too -- i wonder why they are "disproportionally attracted to the lifestyle?"

at the events i go to, a good portion of the men are bigger, and of the ones who aren't, many of them might have thin arms and legs, but they have substantial beer guts. why do they think this is acceptable?

All of this. ^^^^ Especially the bolded parts. I'm not trying to jump on fat men, what I am doing is pointing out that fat men have no business chastising fat women. I mean WTF??

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ORIGINAL: MistressSnow
What ever happened to our OP? Is he gone?

I think so, and I think that's pretty funny really. He still has a CM profile visible, but he's not coming anywhere near this hornet's nest he started. laughing

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ORIGINAL: Hera462
There are MANY people who use a disgust or hatred of fat as a self motivator to stay with in normal societal norms of acceptability. There are people who see a fat person and automatically think of the current prejudices put upon them such as them being slovenly, lazy, low will powered, and undesirable. There is study after study about just this. Studies where young girls are asked if they would rather be fat or lose an arm and the vast majority pick the latter.
There are mounds of evidence to suggest it is not just a matter of working out and eating well and that fat cells are set in childhood, yet these stereotypes still exist.
http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2008/05/fat_cell_number_is_set_in_childhood_and_stays_constant_in_ad.php

And many people have told me that, when they were thinner, they were totally oblivious to the negativity and judgmentalism toward fat people. Then, when they put extra pounds on, their eyes were immediately opened to the the reality and depth of it all. I can say for myself that, as thyroid problems developed causing a slower metabolism and, as I had to start taking certain meds that also cause weight issues, I've heard WAY more negative comments come from self-righteous and holier than thou people who think I don't hear them. I eat healthy, exercise and blah blah blah, but I'm still fat.
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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker
So if I prefer slender females I am now a bigot towards fat females.

I wouldn't call a preference bigotry. I would call it bigotry if someone makes a point of saying negative things about fat people, rather than just saying they prefer those who are thinner.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
we would be a lot less huffy if the OP hadnt gone on to talk about how a fat gal couldnt get raped because she was undesirable...

This! ^^^^ BIG-TIME.




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