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DomYngBlk -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 5:33:31 PM)
you are an anarchist?

HannahLynn -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 5:34:42 PM)
quote: Gus don't just give themselves away, now do they? yea he does, gus is a right little slut and he'll suck off anybody at the drop of a hat. fuck he practically has his own booth in the men's room.

slvemike4u -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 5:39:54 PM)
What happened to the Heather portion of the name ? just curious [:D]

TheHeretic -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 6:15:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynn quote: As an anarchist, shouldn't you be calling them out, and opposing them, anyway? why? what does my political outlook have to do with it? you don't see me supporting them do you? all i'm doing is calling you out on your fucking bullshit. i've already stated i support their methods, i support many of their aims just not the solutions they propose to end the abuses, and in the end i have this fantasy that the movement will grow and the establishment's reactuion will become increasingly violent and that it will grow into an arab spring type thing and bring down the fucking government. you know, a morts les aristos and all that bullshit. Well then, Hannah you might try paying a fucking bit of fucking attention. As I recall, the last time you tried to "call me out on my bullshit," you wound up looking like a fool, and got your apology in before I linked to one of my posts predicting class warfare as an Obama/Democrat theme, damn near a year before the OWS thing was ever heard of, and brought it back to the foreground. Listen up, girl. I have a playful sense of humor, and enjoy spoofs and satire. Hence the thread title, riffing on the victimization spin so beloved of protesting liberals. Either catch a motherfucking clue before you mount the high horse with a stick up your ass, or expect to get slapped. I do fucking hope I fucking phrased that in fucking terms you can fucking comprehend. [:D]

Owner59 -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 6:22:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynn quote: As an anarchist, shouldn't you be calling them out, and opposing them, anyway? why? what does my political outlook have to do with it? you don't see me supporting them do you? all i'm doing is calling you out on your fucking bullshit. i've already stated i support their methods, i support many of their aims just not the solutions they propose to end the abuses, and in the end i have this fantasy that the movement will grow and the establishment's reactuion will become increasingly violent and that it will grow into an arab spring type thing and bring down the fucking government. you know, a morts les aristos and all that bullshit. Well then, Hannah you might try paying a fucking bit of fucking attention. As I recall, the last time you tried to "call me out on my bullshit," you wound up looking like a fool, and got your apology in before I linked to one of my posts predicting class warfare as an Obama/Democrat theme, damn near a year before the OWS thing was ever heard of, and brought it back to the foreground. Listen up, girl. I have a playful sense of humor, and enjoy spoofs and satire. Hence the thread title, riffing on the victimization spin so beloved of protesting liberals. Either catch a motherfucking clue before you mount the high horse with a stick up your ass, or expect to get slapped. I do fucking hope I fucking phrased that in fucking terms you can fucking comprehend. [:D] Somehow your narratives always seem to end with you winning.....and making others look foolish... When in reality....it`s you always whining and making a fool of yourself. In your own mind, you`re some kind of forum bad ass....lol...but that`s as fr as it goes.

TheHeretic -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 6:32:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Somehow your narratives always seem to end with you winning.....and making others look foolish... I don't have to make anybody look foolish, Owner59. You, for example, wind up doing it all by yourself. http://www.collarchat.com/m_3787728/mpage_3/tm.htm And you certainly handled your self-inflicted dick stomping with all the class and grace I expect from today's Democrat party. [8\|]

HannahLynn -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 6:50:50 PM)
quote: Well then, Hannah you might try paying a fucking bit of fucking attention. As I recall, the last time you tried to "call me out on my bullshit," you wound up looking like a fool, and got your apology in before I linked to one of my posts predicting class warfare as an Obama/Democrat theme, damn near a year before the OWS thing was ever heard of, and brought it back to the foreground. well i don't think i looked like a fool at all, given that from the date i joined the site you hadn't posted the words "class warfare" once until the ows shit started. when you said you had used them before i checked, and you were right you had used it several times a few years before i joined. so i acknowledged that and apologized. maybe that's a fool to you, but it seems like a reasonable person to me, but you're entitled to see shit however the fuck you want to if it makes you feel better about yourself. quote: expect to get slapped. if you think what you do on here counts as a verbal or textual slap then you're fucking playing in the mickey mouse leagues there buckwheat. your op was fucking bullshit and you know it. i'm still waiting to hear why the fuck my being an anarchist would require me to call out or oppose the ows protests though.

HannahLynn -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 6:55:11 PM)
quote: you are an anarchist? yuppers, more or less, but i am in transition so to speak, re-evaluating exactly where the fuck i stand on shit in light of some perceived failings in what most anarchists advocate as the correct course of action to take. that and i am noting a rather heavy dose of fucking hypocrisy in many of my old anarchist associates which leads me to believe that many of them, unlike myself, have no moral or ethical basis for their professed political beliefs.

HannahLynn -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 6:56:38 PM)
quote: What happened to the Heather portion of the name ? just curious http://www.collarchat.com/m_3885281/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3885281

TheHeretic -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 7:18:04 PM)
It wasn't that you weren't aware of what had gone before you joined us, Hannah, but the confrontational, accusatory approach you took. As you did again here. Now that's all well and good, and I wouldn't ask you for a moment to not be who you are, any more than I would suggest that the OWS folks be forced to shut up and go away, but you ain't special. My OP was bullshit? Let me suggest you never visit the website for The Onion, lest your pretty little head explode. Why would an anarchist be opposed to Occupy? What's to support? More power for the government? Dismissal of individual responsibility? Increased dependency? An expanded welfare state? The entitlement mentality? All you have is a vague, stupid hope that somehow they might be co-opted to your goal of bringing down "the system," and I can assure you that the Democrats are much better at co-opting than you'll ever be. Seriously, you should be backing the Tea Party, if you want to amuse yourself by dabbling in the politics of my country. They are far closer to your stated ideals, and when it comes to bringing on the revolution, they have a lot more guns.

tazzygirl -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 8:04:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Sort of like gun ownsership is a right, yet those who own guns feel they have to fight for the right to keep that right? Gus don't just give themselves away, now do they? You have to BUY them, just like an education, or medical care. Yeah, you need to read further into a thread before running off at the mouth about topics already covered.

TheHeretic -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 9:55:10 PM)
I think you are just being pissy because you saw the thread title, without seeing the author, and got all creamy at the prospect. You aren't good with disappointment, are you? I know enough about anarchy, to be completely disinterested. I reject, on principle, any school of political thought that suggests humans would be much better off if we were all unrestrained wolves, or living as simple sheep. I also reject any notion that our natural goodness would shine through, and automatically produce some unknown "better," if only the current system burned. My suspicion is that, despite the philosophical gulf, you think of the OWS as being more people like you, and that is the actual basis for your support.

SternSkipper -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 10:40:19 PM)
quote: Yeah, you need to read further into a thread before running off at the mouth about topics already covered. "The beauty Parlor's full of sailors, the circus is in town"

tazzygirl -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 11:05:32 PM)
quote: I also reject any notion that our natural goodness would shine through, and automatically produce some unknown "better," if only the current system burned. And I reject the notion that our current system will automatically turn to the better if the market is allowed to police themselves... its never happened... and it never will.

TheHeretic -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 11:16:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl And I reject the notion that our current system will automatically turn to the better if the market is allowed to police themselves... its never happened... and it never will. Well of course, Tazzy. That's in the "wolves" category.

HannahLynn -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/23/2011 11:35:05 PM)
quote: I think you are just being pissy because you saw the thread title, without seeing the author, and got all creamy at the prospect. You aren't good with disappointment, are you? i'm guessing you were dropped on your fucking head a few times when you were an infant, eh? quote: I know enough about anarchy, to be completely disinterested. I reject, on principle, any school of political thought that suggests humans would be much better off if we were all unrestrained wolves, or living as simple sheep. I also reject any notion that our natural goodness would shine through, and automatically produce some unknown "better," if only the current system burned. so like i said - fuck all quote: My suspicion is that, despite the philosophical gulf, you think of the OWS as being more people like you, and that is the actual basis for your support. and just where did i say i supported the fuckers? you don't really read very well do you?

DomYngBlk -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/24/2011 5:41:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I think you are just being pissy because you saw the thread title, without seeing the author, and got all creamy at the prospect. You aren't good with disappointment, are you? I know enough about anarchy, to be completely disinterested. I reject, on principle, any school of political thought that suggests humans would be much better off if we were all unrestrained wolves, or living as simple sheep. I also reject any notion that our natural goodness would shine through, and automatically produce some unknown "better," if only the current system burned. My suspicion is that, despite the philosophical gulf, you think of the OWS as being more people like you, and that is the actual basis for your support. So what you are saying is gov't is a good thing? Then why are you fighting so hard to tear it down.

erieangel -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/24/2011 6:29:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Arienos Your birthright entitles you to citizenship in this nation, not financial support and assistance in handling your resources. Expecting the government to lavish you with luxuries, educational assistance and medicines or medical treatments is common but common does answer the call to self-reliance. Then what are we paying taxes for? To bail out large corporations? That depends. I'm of the belief that if it isn't stated as the role of the Feds then it belongs to the states. This means the Feds should ONLY be dealing with the military (common defense) and only those other things specifically spelled out in the Constitution as its job (I'm tired and I don't feel like going through the Constitution to name them). The rest it is up to the States to either regulate or not according to their State Constitutions. I believe in subsidiarity (the lowest form of government does what is needed (versus wanted)). As far as the feds go....no it is not their job to bail out large corporations. Never was. The Founding Fathers would be rolling over in their graves to see what has become of the nation that they founded. The preamble to the Constitution: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Notice the words--"PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE"? What does that mean if not ensuring that all citizens are provided for with the basic necessities of human life?

TheHeretic -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/24/2011 6:39:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk So what you are saying is gov't is a good thing? Then why are you fighting so hard to tear it down. Government has a proper role to play YngBlk. It's a matter of degree, and where we draw the lines of limitation.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: OWS protesters attacked by water cannons - one near fatality! (10/24/2011 9:41:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel Notice the words--"PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE"? What does that mean if not ensuring that all citizens are provided for with the basic necessities of human life? "James Madison stated that the “general welfare” clause was not intended to give Congress an open hand “to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare.” If by the “general welfare,” the Founding Fathers had meant any and all social, economic, or educational programs Congress wanted to create, there would have been no reason to list specific powers of Congress such as establishing courts and maintaining the armed forces. Those powers would simply have been included in one all-encompassing phrase, to “promote the general welfare.” "

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