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luckydawg -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:04:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl So is it the cost you object too? Or the Sharia Law? So you support paying for the imposition of Sharia Law? Why?

tazzygirl -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:05:57 PM)
I do not object to paying for a group of people to have the freedom to choose which law they choose to follow. Sort of like the French did for us.

mnottertail -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:08:09 PM)
The Turks sent waves of horse warriors from the steppes from the 3rd century b.c. and settled in the middle east. Established empires by the 6th century a.d. A second wave came in early 1000s. In 1040 and 1071 the Abbasid Caliphate was defeated and Turkish warriors settled the area. In 1451, the Turks defeated and replaced the Byzantine Empire. In the 14th century, the Seljuk Turks founded the Ottoman Empire, one of the most powerful empires in the world during the Late Middle Ages, spanning across North Africa to the Caspian Sea, all the way into what is now Southern Austria by the mid 17th century. __________________________ and we are not paying for the imposition of sharia law, that is simpletonic and hysterical lying and pretending by known know-nothings.

luckydawg -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:11:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg Just more blather that proves I was correct. There were no muslims at all in the 3rd century. Your assertion that they ruled Libya is nonsense. And there was no turkish empire ruling North africa untill the Ottomans. And you are rather confused about the meanings of "Oral Tradition" and "Dictation" Just a bunch of blather.... really pretty boring. But why do you go to such lengths to support the imposition of Sharia Law with our Tax dollars??? Well of course you pathetically ignore the fact that the 15th century occured in the 1400s so anything else is just so much more compost. Now, you are free to make things up and lie and pretend, but should another play your games of sniping and caterwauling based on false information and never really having a point other than to find some minor issue with something, then you run around flouncing some hysterical dogmas of nothingness. Again your blatherings are not of any consequence to the topic, per usual. I am aware that you have dimwitted fans that will not notice that you claimed the Turks came through in the 7th century...post 198. And that they have been under Conservative Muslim rule since around the 3rd century. Over 300 years before the founding of Islam. post 198 again. You may now flail and derail. and your diwitted socks can congratulate you....

Sanity -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:14:40 PM)
Leftists are only in love with Shariah law because its Obamas baby quote: Sharia law declaration raises concerns in new Libya TRIPOLI — The announcement that Islamic sharia law will be the basis of legislation in newly liberated Libya has raised concerns, especially among women, despite Islamists insisting moderation will prevail. ... "Any law that violates sharia is null and void legally," he said, citing as an example the law on marriage passed during the slain dictator's 42-year tenure that imposed restrictions on polygamy, which is permitted in Islam. "The law of divorce and marriage... This law is contrary to sharia and it is stopped," Abdel Jalil said. His comments have provoked criticism and calls for restraint both in Libya and in Europe, amid fears that the Arab Spring may give rise to a potentially intolerant Islamist resurgence. Many Libyans awaiting Sunday's historic speech expressed surprise at the decision by the National Transitional Council leader to mention the role of sharia law in the new country before addressing such important issues as security and education. "It's shocking and insulting to state, after thousands of Libyans have paid for freedom with their lives, that the priority of the new leadership is to allow men to marry in secret," said Rim, 40, a Libyan feminist who requested anonymity. "We did not slay Goliath so that we now live under the Inquisition," she told AFP .... Adelrahman al-Shatr, one of the founders of the centre-right Party of National Solidarity, launched just last week, said it was premature for the NTC leader to speak about the policies of the new state. "It is a subject that should be discussed with the different political groups and with the Libyan people," he said. "These declarations create feelings of pain and bitterness among women who sacrificed so many martyrs," in the eight-month battle against Kadhafi loyalists, he added. "By abolishing the marriage law, women lose the right to keep the family home if they divorce. It is a disaster for Libyan women."Western leaders also responded swiftly to Abdel Jalil's comments, with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton saying on Monday Libya's introduction of sharia law must respect human rights and democratic principles. ... Full article here

thompsonx -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:16:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: All this nonsense and blather to support the imposition of Sharia Law with our tax dollars..... You being a self professed "christian" I can see where you would not be in favor of freedom of religion. your intellectual dishonesty is really boring. The fact that you have to lie, proves you simply can't defend your twisted view of the world. Your inability to answer simple questions relating to your post would seem to quantify your intellectual capacity.

slvemike4u -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:18:48 PM)
Rightists are only bitching and whining because this is Obama's baby,delivered naturally and without the need of 1/2 million U.S. Serviceman disguised as midwives [:D] By the by Obama's baby will cost the U.S. Taxpayer a he'll of a lot less than Bush's twins have cost.....ObamaCare at work ? [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

tazzygirl -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:22:39 PM)
How many other countries believe the US is barbaric by using the death penatly? How many other countries view our health care system as "abusive"? How many feel women are abused because of some views on abortion? Before you start saying we should do this and we shouldnt do that, keep in mind we would not appreciate any other country telling us how to govern ourselves. We gave them the opportunity... what they do with it is up to them.

luckydawg -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:25:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: All this nonsense and blather to support the imposition of Sharia Law with our tax dollars..... You being a self professed "christian" I can see where you would not be in favor of freedom of religion. your intellectual dishonesty is really boring. The fact that you have to lie, proves you simply can't defend your twisted view of the world. Your inability to answer simple questions relating to your post would seem to quantify your intellectual capacity. You didn't ask a question about my post. You told a lie about me.

FirstQuaker -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:38:02 PM)
I think they just want to help the dowtrodden North Africans get in touch with their traditional values and fundamental Muslim roots myself, for those lounge liberals, suburban socialists, and cocktail communists, are rabid supporters of indigenous rights, just ask any of them about what their armies and corporations have done to improve the lot of the peoples of Africa, Asia and the Americas. Then the EUropeans and the Muslims can have crusades and jihads, just like back in the day, and this revival of the fun the EUropeans and the Muslims had for centuries will divert the attentions of the EUromasses from the quasi-socialistic spawned economic devastation that is descending upon them, while giving the Muslims their own local "Great Satan" to bomb and such. "Don't you know we are at war?" sez the orc chieftain. If it keeps the whole accursed lot of them out of trouble on our side of the planet, it is all for the better. I doubt the EUropeans will end up "winning" this time,as demographics are against them, and the Russians and their Chinese accomplices are licking their lips, for they will profit regardless. Best thing for the America's to do is stay out of it, and get a pile of popcorn and watch the show.

mnottertail -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:49:50 PM)
and here we are and everybody is woofing and talking centuries and this and that and sharia law and the difference between ottoman and turkish empires and caliphs and europeans and cost of implementing sharia law and NATO and the Mohave desert and............ It ain't implemented,didn't happen and in fact there is no major change in the day to day lives of Libyans since before the rebellion. But I do love the theater of the various and sundry folks vying for charge de affairs in Libya. The lot would make Ws FEMA director look like a bleeding Einstein.

luckydawg -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:54:24 PM)
In your fantasy world nothing has changed, and conservative Muslims ruled the place in the 3rd century.

FirstQuaker -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:57:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail and here we are and everybody is woofing and talking centuries and this and that and sharia law and the difference between ottoman and turkish empires and caliphs and europeans and cost of implementing sharia law and NATO and the Mohave desert and............ It ain't implemented,didn't happen and in fact there is no major change in the day to day lives of Libyans since before the rebellion. But I do love the theater of the various and sundry folks vying for charge de affairs in Libya. The lot would make Ws FEMA director look like a bleeding Einstein. I am certain both the Saudis and Qatar, who funded and underwrote much of this affair, were real sure what the result would be regarding the political/religious swing in Libya. After all they are quite in touch with their own history in the place.

Hillwilliam -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 12:59:24 PM)
Islam didn't exist prior to Mohammed. "A Muslim, (Arabic: مسلم‎) also spelled Moslem,[1] is an adherent of Islam, " As Islam didn't exist prior to Mohammed, it is impossible that Muslims existed either just as there were no Christians prior to Christ. There were various Semitic groups whot worshipped various and sundry deities including Allah. Among these was Mohammed's ancestors but there was no Islam that far back (prior to Mohammed) by definition.

luckydawg -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 1:02:29 PM)
No shit Hill. Maybe you could explain that to Mnot. He is still confused.

luckydawg -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 1:09:31 PM)
"They have been under conservative muslim rule in one form or another since around the 3th century, no matter who was their 'owner' and one of the reasons they had their own way to go in the third century was that the Roman-Persians were constantly at war, it wasn't them. Then the Turks come running thru in the 7th century." except he did. post 198. I already cited it.

ashjor911 -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 1:14:40 PM)
ok, lets face the facts here, you all fear the sharia law...... Oh God, but you do realize that the bigest sharia law regime in the regon is US number 1 ally (KSA), Its not that big as you think its, Personally, I really dont care about who the FUCK comes next as long as that fcuking man is dead.

tazzygirl -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 1:16:27 PM)
I think many there agree with you, ashjor

Lucylastic -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 1:17:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ashjor911 ok, lets face the facts here, you all fear the sharia law...... Oh God, but you do realize that the bigest sharia law regime in the regon is US number 1 ally (KSA), Its not that big as you think its, Personally, I really dont care about who the FUCK comes next as long as that fcuking man is dead. WHat he said!!!!!

mnottertail -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 1:17:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg No shit Hill. Maybe you could explain that to Mnot. He is still confused. Well my bad I called them muslims, shoulda called them allahworshippers, and while you are explaining stuff Hill, please explain that the 15th century was in the 1400s to luckydawg. Because it is somehow important when he is out here picking shit with the sparrows instead of dealing in real world where the Libyans are doing just fine, the hysteria of horrific sharia law in the rhetoric of an overexuberant politico is not the law of the land, (but he has no issues with Iran) and the fact that they have been under a form of sharia law for 42 years is somehow beside the actual point if you don't have chicken little the sky is falling and I have no fucking clue or solutions rhetoric, but he knows he can find some insignificant misstep as the centerpiece to these fanciful posts. But he can't count so it really doesn't matter, nobody pays him any attention other than to wind him up.

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