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mnottertail -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 3:02:52 PM)

gone to flowers; every one.......




FirstQuaker -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 3:04:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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The planet has lost the horde of communists to fight which might have justified or excused this symbiotic alliance a generation or two ago


Where did this horde of communists go?


Dunno, the white men said they were everywhere, even hiding under their beds. a generation or two ago. Now some of them even claim one is in the White House.

How an alliance with the House of Saud cures the latter problem they claim to see, I cannot say.

I think they are like mermaids and other mythological creatures, based on some real sightings of remote life forms they became embellished past any hope of recognition when a real creature of the species that was sighted actually appears.




thompsonx -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 3:40:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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The planet has lost the horde of communists to fight which might have justified or excused this symbiotic alliance a generation or two ago


Where did this horde of communists go?


Dunno, the white men said they were everywhere, even hiding under their beds. a generation or two ago. Now some of them even claim one is in the White House.

How an alliance with the House of Saud cures the latter problem they claim to see, I cannot say.

I think they are like mermaids and other mythological creatures, based on some real sightings of remote life forms they became embellished past any hope of recognition when a real creature of the species that was sighted actually appears.




So it would seem that the fake boogy man of communism is past and the new boogy man of islam is now here.
Now we must feed our children and our money to the military industrial complex to protect us from yet another fake boogy man.




FirstQuaker -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 3:47:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

So it would seem that the fake boogy man of communism is past and the new boogy man of islam is now here.
Now we must feed our children and our money to the military industrial complex to protect us from yet another fake boogy man.



One would think, save the motherlode and homeland of radical fundamentalist Islam is one of the biggest allies in this supposed war.

But speaking of being in league with a devil.

Imagine if the Soviet Union had been the biggest ally in the fight against world communism and you see the utter  ridiculousness of the thing.




mnottertail -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 4:06:49 PM)

all them guys were our asshole buddies in WW2




thompsonx -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 4:18:06 PM)

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But speaking of being in league with a devil.

Imagine if the Soviet Union had been the biggest ally in the fight against world communism and you see the utter ridiculousness of the thing.


If my memory serves me correctly russia was our ally in ww2 against the nazis. Granted they did the heavy lifting but they were still our ally.
Then there is the question of where the u.s. got the titanium we needed to make jet aircraft durring the cold war?
Where did russia get the rock drilling bits to develop her oil fields?
Fucking evil empire my ass.




FirstQuaker -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 4:21:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

all them guys were our asshole buddies in WW2


WW2 caused any number of marriages of convenience. Recalll Germany and Russia were allies when the fracas started. The Russians still cynically comment on how they saved world capitalism and the the hated remnants of British empire, for these were their sworn enemies before and after the war.

But this justifies allying with the radical fundamentalist Muslims to put the sectarian and more moderate Muslims states down?

Actually it (the funde Muslims vs the moderate and sectarian Muslims) is more akin to the various troubles and wars between the Catholics and the various Protestants in EUrope, both nationally and internationally. Naturally the Anglosphere is in there swinging for the Vatican in this thing, and their Rome is Saudi Arabia.

About the only thing missing is an official Muslim church, but the House Of Saud has to settle for its oil funded banks of mullahs, emirs, scholars and such in its stead.






mnottertail -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 4:24:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

all them guys were our asshole buddies in WW2


WW2 caused any number of marriages of convenience. Recalll Germany and Russia were allies when the fracas started. The Russians still cynically comment on how they saved world capitalism and the the hated remnants of British empire, for these were their sworn enemies before and after the war.

But this justifies allying with the radical fundamentalist Muslims to put the sectarian and more moderate Muslims states down?

Actually it (the funde Muslims vs the moderate and sectarian Muslims) is more akin to the various troubles and wars between the Catholics and the various Protestants in EUrope, both nationally and internationally. Naturally the Anglosphere is in there swinging for the Vatican in this thing, and their Rome is Saudi Arabia.

About the only thing missing is an official Muslim church, but the House Of Saud has to settle for its oil funded banks of mullahs, emirs, scholars and such in its stead.




They were allies such that Stalin could get some breathing room, remember he asked for help for getting buffer zones and hardware from the US and Britain and was given the bums rush early on. Britain for different reasons than the US, who simply didn't give a fuck about a war in europe in them days.

And the radical qua sine non moderate muslim shit dont wash. We do not as yet consider the UK and France to be radical muslims here in the States, but if they keep fuckin around.......




thompsonx -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 4:45:34 PM)

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WW2 caused any number of marriages of convenience. Recalll Germany and Russia were allies when the fracas started.

Do you recall just how that came about?


The Russians still cynically comment on how they saved world capitalism and the the hated remnants of British empire,

If the russians did not save england and the u.s. who did?



for these were their sworn enemies before and after the war.

The russians bought the lion's share of englands machine tool production before the war to impliment a succession of five year plans. Russia may have been englands sworn enemy but there is no evidence that it was reciprocal.




FirstQuaker -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 4:49:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

all them guys were our asshole buddies in WW2


WW2 caused any number of marriages of convenience. Recalll Germany and Russia were allies when the fracas started. The Russians still cynically comment on how they saved world capitalism and the the hated remnants of British empire, for these were their sworn enemies before and after the war.

But this justifies allying with the radical fundamentalist Muslims to put the sectarian and more moderate Muslims states down?

Actually it (the funde Muslims vs the moderate and sectarian Muslims) is more akin to the various troubles and wars between the Catholics and the various Protestants in EUrope, both nationally and internationally. Naturally the Anglosphere is in there swinging for the Vatican in this thing, and their Rome is Saudi Arabia.

About the only thing missing is an official Muslim church, but the House Of Saud has to settle for its oil funded banks of mullahs, emirs, scholars and such in its stead.




They were allies such that Stalin could get some breathing room, remember he asked for help for getting buffer zones and hardware from the US and Britain and was given the bums rush early on. Britain for different reasons than the US, who simply didn't give a fuck about a war in europe in them days.

And the radical qua sine non moderate muslim shit dont wash. We do not as yet consider the UK and France to be radical muslims here in the States, but if they keep fuckin around.......


So you don't think there are Muslim schisms and various factions add serous odds against each other in the Muslim world?

Even under Saddam's thumb the religious factions would try and battle in Iraq, never mind what happened when Bush crusade wandered into the place, and tried running it.

Seems like the last decade have had umpteen thousand articles in the world news had  with "Sectarian violence" and "Iraq" in the same sentence. Probably one in the news right now. Likely one from some other troubled Muslim land too.

And the House of Saud supports the more "traditional" sects with money, training, even weapons at times.

Like they have with their champions in Libya for instance and "naturally" these Al-Qaeda looking worthies are rising to the top of the deck, in the aftermath of this internationally and scripted, staged charade.







mnottertail -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 4:53:13 PM)

Absolutely there are muslim schisms in the muslim, there are schisms here at home, there are schisms between brother and sister, there are schisms in the GOP, and so on.... I can't for the life of me fathom how you impute for me such a leadingly dishonest idea.

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FQ
And the House of Saud supports the more "traditional" sects with money, training, even weapons at times.

Like they have with their champions in Libya for instance and "naturally" these Al-Qaeda looking worthies are rising to the top of the deck, in the aftermath of this internationally and scripted, staged charade.


Huge disagreement with that by god, Khadafy finances terrorists all on his own worldwide including the Phillipines, IRA and has training camps, and Saudi Arabia and Libya did not get along. There were not alot of backers of Khadafy in the muslim world. And SA and Libya were not on good terms at all.

I could go on with their stuff, but when whats his name cakked in SA the first thing everyone said in muslimland was khadafy, but no, it was the pricks nephew.




FirstQuaker -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 9:29:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Absolutely there are muslim schisms in the muslim, there are schisms here at home, there are schisms between brother and sister, there are schisms in the GOP, and so on.... I can't for the life of me fathom how you impute for me such a leadingly dishonest idea.

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FQ
And the House of Saud supports the more "traditional" sects with money, training, even weapons at times.

Like they have with their champions in Libya for instance and "naturally" these Al-Qaeda looking worthies are rising to the top of the deck, in the aftermath of this internationally and scripted, staged charade.


Huge disagreement with that by god, Khadafy finances terrorists all on his own worldwide including the Phillipines, IRA and has training camps, and Saudi Arabia and Libya did not get along. There were not alot of backers of Khadafy in the muslim world. And SA and Libya were not on good terms at all.

I could go on with their stuff, but when whats his name cakked in SA the first thing everyone said in muslimland was khadafy, but no, it was the pricks nephew.


Who do you think coined the word assassin? And of course KDaffy and the House of Saud were at each others throats and were for years. Never mind the US hiring its own assassins and terrorist to go do thing the Muslim way around the place. The Saudis considered him a blasphemous infindel, (women's rights, what is this outrage?) and the moderate Libyans (and others around the Muslim world as far as that goes) considered the Saudis about like you would the  the worst of Europe under the Inquisition.

If you want a better example of the dynamics consider the Shia-Sunni conflict in various places and which side Iran supports and which side the House of Saud stands behind, to see how the two are intertwined..

The way this Muslim world works has a religious aspect as well as a political one, not that they two are necessarily separate anywhere else on the planet.

Then these factions./cults/sects each have their own left/center/right wings, much like their Christian contermperaies (Or the Jewish ones as far as that goes) . . . .






popeye1250 -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/26/2011 10:37:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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All this nonsense and blather to support the imposition of Sharia Law with our tax dollars.....


You being a self professed "christian" I can see where you would not be in favor of freedom of religion.


Thompson, many people consider it a cult not a religion.

Which paricular group of morons think islam is a cult? Are you saying people don't have freedom of thought?


If I opened up "The Church of Bank Robbery and Rape" would you defend my freedom of religion?

The courts have made it pretty clear what constitutes a religion  Yeah, so you meet those requirements and them do what you want anyway.


Some people get those phoney "Minister" documents to get out of paying taxes. How about them?

Do they have "phoney minister" documents for islam? What does that have to do with islam?  I know very little about it and what I see I don't like. Stop into a mosque and ask them if they have "phony  minister documents." But, I don't think they have "ministers."
Thompson, why do you answer a question with a question?






VideoAdminDelta -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/27/2011 4:35:10 AM)

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