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SternSkipper -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 5:04:39 PM)

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So you would have preferred the dictator murdering people?

You are a real piece of work Mr Independent.


It's probably a 'liberals gotta be wrong under any circumstance" thing. Bookmarks for blaming the president if it's not a utopia. The actual book goes back to Reagan and GHW Bush.




popeye1250 -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 5:27:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I agree, we do have that right. Im not sure what your position is here then. Its a bad thing if they reimburse?


No, it's a good thing.
As for the other, stonings and beheadings you can't have your cake and eat it too.
If they're going to have sharia law we can't complain when the beheadings and stonings start.



So you would have preferred the dictator murdering people?

You are a real piece of work Mr Independent.



Rule, I'd have "preferred" that my govt. had not gotten involved in this.
I checked the above posts and no-where do I say that, "I would have preferred the dictator killing people." Which number message is that in?
What do I care about "dictators murdering people?" As long as it doesn't happen here I'm good to go.
Does that keep you awake at night?



HannahLynn -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 5:38:16 PM)

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As long as it doesn't happen here I'm good to go.
if that's the case, why the fuck do you care if they have sharia law or bring out the "big curvy swords"? <scimitars btw, they are called fucking scimitars!>



slvemike4u -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 5:42:18 PM)

Standard "independent" viewpoint Hannah....pops is nothing more than your typical "independent"..... No partisan bias at all [:-]



popeye1250 -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 5:50:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynn

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As long as it doesn't happen here I'm good to go.
if that's the case, why the fuck do you care if they have sharia law or bring out the "big curvy swords"? <scimitars btw, they are called fucking scimitars!>


Hannah, I don't care. I just saw the article in Yahoo and thought it might be interesting to discuss in here. (slow news day.)
Oh,...and I prefer "Big Curvy Swords."



HannahLynn -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 6:32:59 PM)

ok, fair enough, i can dig that, but if we ever meet and you call them "big curvy swords" i give you a gibbs that will make your fucking ears ring.





Sanity -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 7:04:53 PM)


I wonder if everyone in Libya is jiggy with this

When did they hold the elections, anyway

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NEW LIBYA TO INTRODUCE 'RADICAL ISLAMIC LAW'



Sanity -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 7:11:23 PM)


For $1 Billion, One Dictator

And quite possibly, zero change.




Termyn8or -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 7:17:19 PM)

"And I dont agree with your position. We have no right to tell another country how to govern themselves. "

Your sarcasm detector is out of alignment. But then why do we pay for their freedom as we lose ours ?

And the peolple who allocated our money to spread democracy will have their puppets in place, even if they have to bomb every motherfucker in that country. Or this one.

Sorry I forgot to use the sarcasm tag.

T^T



Real0ne -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/23/2011 8:58:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Do we have the right to tell them how to govern themselves?


no in fact english imperialism has laws against that, you go in take over and put the same law in effect that they had and contract with them for protection under conquest then never deliver.  LOL


Its just bizzynezz



Hillwilliam -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 5:16:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Do we have the right to tell them how to govern themselves?


Of course not, but we have the right not to do business with them.
And last week in Yahoo they said they'd reimburse Nato for all it's expenses.
So that's what, $90 - $120 billion to us?
And wait until they start stoning women and doing "honor killings", the left will be screaming at us to "do something!!!"
"Sorry, we don't have the right to tell them how to govern themselves!"
"Look, they're sharpening up those big curvy swords!" Beheadings on You Tube?"


Not bad. You're only off by 2 orders of magnitude. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/08/us-military-intervention-in-libya-cost-at-least-896-million/

Now this number was only thru early August so more or less double it and you get about 1.5 Billion. As a bonus, there were ZERO American lives lost.

How much has that ratfuck in Iraq cost so far?



Hillwilliam -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 5:23:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


For $1 Billion, One Dictator

And quite possibly, zero change.



A bargain compared to the TRILLION we spent in Iraq.

Here's a cool one from the report. "U.S. Annual Air-Conditioning Cost in Iraq and Afghanistan - $20.2 billion"

We spent more on fucking air conditioning in Iraq this year than we did in Libya.

Is that cool or what? (pun intended)



Lucylastic -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 5:33:44 AM)

20 billion?? in ONE YEAR?
...ghadaffi would be insulted at just one
LMFAO



Sanity -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 5:35:16 AM)


If youre really, really into radical Islamic law its a bargain, sure.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


For $1 Billion, One Dictator

And quite possibly, zero change.



A bargain compared to the TRILLION we spent in Iraq.

Here's a cool one from the report. "U.S. Annual Air-Conditioning Cost in Iraq and Afghanistan - $20.2 billion"

We spent more on fucking air conditioning in Iraq this year than we did in Libya.

Is that cool or what? (pun intended)



tazzygirl -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 5:40:58 AM)

So you are saying we should force our beliefs upon that country, Sanity?



Sanity -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 5:48:26 AM)


We were forcing our beliefs upon that country when we began bombing them, tazzy

And I am posting what I posted when the bombs first started to fall on Libya. Why are we bombing these people when we have no idea who is going to fill any power vacuum we create

And here we are... theyre radicals. Nice, huh?

My turn to ask you a question. Why are leftists suddenly so fond of war and killing, when just previously they pretended that they believed that bombing "sovereign nations" was a bad thing

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

So you are saying we should force our beliefs upon that country, Sanity?



DarkSteven -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 5:58:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

So you are saying we should force our beliefs upon that country, Sanity?


I'm not Sanity, but:

1. We got that right when Pan Am 103 went down.  We had to wait until the Libyans got restive, but we finally got Ghadafi out.
2. Countries do intrigue to protect/advance their own interests.  As an example, our entire foreign aid program is sent to the leadership of countries, with a never-verified promise that it will go to their needy.  In other words, bribes to keep rulers friendly to us.

The Middle East has long been a powder keg.  The Arab Spring has been a severe test of diplomacy and meddling/not meddling.  Obama's been phenomenal throughout, delicately supporting some of the insurgencies while not influencing them strongly enough that they'd resent it or that they'd be liable to be called puppet regimes.  There's a good chance that the new regimes will not be Western-friendly, but he's done everything he can to reduce that possibility.  I just hope that when he leaves office, in 2012 or 2016, we don't get some Bush-like knuckle-dragger that changes course based on not understanding, or caring about, the area.



Lucylastic -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 6:05:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

So you are saying we should force our beliefs upon that country, Sanity?

considering 97% of the population is Sunni Muslim....its really gonna be hard to have any in road there regarding forcing eastern beliefs, plus they already have sharia law. so its just re-inforcing that they will be keeping it.
Funny no one seems to get that tho, at least on the fear and panic driven ones



Sanity -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 6:27:55 AM)


The "knuckledraggers" would be the ones who change their stated beliefs depending on who is occupying the White House, Steven.

This is Bushs policy, except Bush was smart enough to know that any regime change would have to be accompanied by some way of guiding the affected nation through the ensuing turmoil on account of the "radical" nature of that environment, so to speak

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I'm not Sanity, but:

1. We got that right when Pan Am 103 went down.  We had to wait until the Libyans got restive, but we finally got Ghadafi out.
2. Countries do intrigue to protect/advance their own interests.  As an example, our entire foreign aid program is sent to the leadership of countries, with a never-verified promise that it will go to their needy.  In other words, bribes to keep rulers friendly to us.

The Middle East has long been a powder keg.  The Arab Spring has been a severe test of diplomacy and meddling/not meddling.  Obama's been phenomenal throughout, delicately supporting some of the insurgencies while not influencing them strongly enough that they'd resent it or that they'd be liable to be called puppet regimes.  There's a good chance that the new regimes will not be Western-friendly, but he's done everything he can to reduce that possibility.  I just hope that when he leaves office, in 2012 or 2016, we don't get some Bush-like knuckle-dragger that changes course based on not understanding, or caring about, the area.




Hillwilliam -> RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. (10/24/2011 6:39:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


If youre really, really into radical Islamic law its a bargain, sure.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


For $1 Billion, One Dictator

And quite possibly, zero change.



A bargain compared to the TRILLION we spent in Iraq.

Here's a cool one from the report. "U.S. Annual Air-Conditioning Cost in Iraq and Afghanistan - $20.2 billion"

We spent more on fucking air conditioning in Iraq this year than we did in Libya.

Is that cool or what? (pun intended)


I didn't say anything about radical islamic law. I was responding to your headline of "One Billion, One Dictator"

Nice strawman attempt.



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