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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 3:24:10 PM   
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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 4:07:31 PM   
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So you support the PC platform on Libya. Just admit you took the Tory plank up as your own on foreign policy.




Lucky, is that you ?

Maybe the UN want the oil since they passed the resolution.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 4:20:09 PM   
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So you support the PC platform on Libya. Just admit you took the Tory plank up as your own on foreign policy.




Lucky, is that you ?

Maybe the UN want the oil since they passed the resolution.


Is that you Lucy?


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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 4:22:54 PM   
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Is that you Lucy?



No, but like me Lucy was also taught correct history.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 4:28:56 PM   
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Is that you Lucy?



No, but like me Lucy was also taught correct history.


All about Henry the 8th, and WW2, no doubt.

See as what you replied to I just thought you might of forgot which window you had open.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 4:32:35 PM   
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You still didnt find any reasonable reply to the fact that we could have had more oil, simply by cutting a deal with Gaddafi.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 5:14:57 PM   
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My room is not very big and only has one window.

You still didnt find any reasonable reply to the fact that we could have had more oil, simply by cutting a deal with Gaddafi.


I am surprised  you are allowed that modest liberty..

And KDaffy woudl have been pulling the plug on the EUro, as the French discovered to their terror while interrogating the defecting Chief of Protocol. But Disaster capitalism swoops over Libya with a much finer style.

And Be it oil, or central banking Libyan was certain to be a Fatal Tomahawk attraction.

But anyway Welcome to Libya's 'democracy' -

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So the big winners in the end are London, Washington, the House of Saud and the Qataris (they sent jets and "advisers", they are already handling the oil sales). With a special mention for the compound Pentagon/NATO - considering that Africom will finally set up its first African base in the Mediterranean, and NATO is one step closer to declaring the Mediterranean "a NATO lake".

Islamism? Tribalism? These may be Libya's lesser ills compared to a new fantasyland open to neo-liberalism. There are few doubts the new Western masters won't try to revive a friendlier version of Iraq's nefarious, rapacious Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), turning Libya into a hardcore neo-liberal dream of 100% ownership of Libyan assets, total repatriation of profits, Western corporations with the same legal standing of local firms, foreign banks buying local banks and very low income and corporate taxes.


Don't worry, this scheme is apt to go as far off track as the "oil will pay for it all" one the neo-conservatives in the US and the Blairists in the UK devised for Iraq has, and most likely a bit quicker, too.

Naturally it will be everyone but a EUropean's fault when it does. And the popeyes's OP just touches on the start of these troubles.


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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 5:25:20 PM   
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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 5:39:14 PM   
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Bullshit source......get a grip.

Re the window..... Its cool, I can run rings around you, even in the dark.


Yeah the Asian Times is a real tinfoil blog almighty. Funny how many people (especially among leftwingers, and foreign policy wonks) in the UK tout it as a good source of independent news. .But since you did not like the translation I copied you from the European press . . .

You likely won't be flattered by the Latin American, Russian, German, Indian or any African information, opinions and/or assessments of this NATO/EU misadventure along with its causes, authors, and/or likely unpalatable consequences either.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 6:31:36 PM   
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Wow.....what a jaded mother-fucker that author is.



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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 7:08:43 PM   
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"humanitarian imperialists"


Wow.....what a jaded mother-fucker that author is.




He should have called it "The White Man's Burden."

Curious how there always seems to be some rather contrived but pious and noble reason the EUropeans can point to that justifies them invading and then robbing or enslaving someone in Asia, Africa, or the Americas.

Amazing how the possibility of wealth always fills the mouths of those doing the plundering with noble or religious platitudes and false expressions of brotherly love for the unfortunate victims of these affections.



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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 7:58:54 PM   
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Cons will start to STFU when the oil starts flowing.


They'll probably find a way to delay that.
Some Saudi was on tonight on one of the CNN programs threatening $200/barrel oil because of some issue. I was in the other room though and didn't get intp the livingroom in time to hear what his bitch was.



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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:35:57 PM   
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"humanitarian imperialists"
Wow.....what a jaded mother-fucker that author is.


This is to make up for the Piers Morgan shag ... sorry... it is definitely tomorrow night @ 9
Anyway ... check this bozo out... so sure of his fucking BS he only publishes it on a canadian website AND HE CLAIMS TO BE A FORMER VEGAS COUNCILMAN WhAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHa... the political equivalent of early parole:  Here's his MYTH about the Occupation in Vegas and Blue Ice off Airforce One....

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/41638#When:20:48:47Z



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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:37:35 PM   
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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/25/2011 3:48:43 AM   
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He should have called it "The White Man's Burden."

Curious how there always seems to be some rather contrived but pious and noble reason the EUropeans can point to that justifies them invading and then robbing or enslaving someone in Asia, Africa, or the Americas.

Amazing how the possibility of wealth always fills the mouths of those doing the plundering with noble or religious platitudes and false expressions of brotherly love for the unfortunate victims of these affections.




Like I told you before, take a look at history. No one is guilt free down the ages. From your stance I am guessing you would rather we let Gadaffi kill thousands, as he had promised to do.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/25/2011 5:12:46 AM   
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All depends on who is perceived as the liberator to you

Here you are on another thread pining away for Saddam Hussein, worrying about how poor Iraq can ever get along without its fatherly Saddam Hussein, whose atrocities make Gaddafi look like Mother Theresa in comparison

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We've already done what we set out to do. Remove Sadam and help them establish a government and army. They have both. Our work is done.



You could argue they had a government and an army beforehand. All that has happened is the power has been passed from Sunni to Shia.


Exactly. I never said I agreed with our going there. I was against it from the beginning.

In this specifc thread I was merely stating the mission as it was given in the beginning and saying that we've meet that mission.


Agreed, and i am sorry if i appeared critical. As stable as the provinces now seem, i wonder if they will stay that way if the Allies pull out ?


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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/25/2011 5:15:48 AM   
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Curious how there always seems to be some rather contrived but pious and noble reason the EUropeans can point to that justifies them invading and then robbing or enslaving someone in Asia, Africa, or the Americas.

Actually, we've left that to your lot since 1993.


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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/25/2011 10:42:28 AM   
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All depends on who is perceived as the liberator to you

Here you are on another thread pining away for Saddam Hussein, worrying about how poor Iraq can ever get along without its fatherly Saddam Hussein, whose atrocities make Gaddafi look like Mother Theresa in comparison



If you wish to lie and indicate I was pining for Saddam then feel free. I was just pointing out you had swapped like for like.

The big difference is there was UN support to intervene in Libya but not in Iraq.

As for the laughable idea Saddam made Gaddafi look like Mother Theresa, get clued up and get back to me. Both dictators were reprehensible but Gaddafi was by far the bigger backer of terrorism. Shame you seem able to search my posts but not search facts huh.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/25/2011 12:47:00 PM   
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If you wish to lie and indicate I was pining for Saddam then feel free. I was just pointing out you had swapped like for like.


Thats not accurate, you were an extremely loyal supporter of Saddams bloody regime, the archives here prove that out

And in Iraqs case the coalition shepherded the Iraqi people to the point they were truly self governing

In Libyas case weve only introduced chaos, and without a vote its been announced that strict Shariah law shall be enforced

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The big difference is there was UN support to intervene in Libya but not in Iraq.



Again, thats not accurate - Saddam had multiple UN resolutions against him, and he was in direct violation of the cease fire after his rape of Kuwait

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As for the laughable idea Saddam made Gaddafi look like Mother Theresa, get clued up and get back to me. Both dictators were reprehensible but Gaddafi was by far the bigger backer of terrorism. Shame you seem able to search my posts but not search facts huh.


I didnt write terrorism, I wrote atrocities but nice try at obfuscating the reality





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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/25/2011 12:48:38 PM   
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