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mnottertail -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 7:52:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Drudge this morning: quote: [image]http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/xvMj_QUJ7oMXqAFLjiq2Og--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMTU7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/TRWas4359952.jpg[/image] 'MIDDLE CLASS WARRIOR' HITS HOLLYWOOD... Hey I like that!!!! (of course I didnt read the stupid asswipe invariably contained in drudge) but the picture and caption is great, it could be punched up a bit though: Somali terrorists....dead....Osama bin Laden.....dead...Mad Dog of the Middle East.....dead...High Ranking Al-Queda Officials....dead...Just another day in the 'Aw, shucks' life of the 'middle class warrior' as he tweaks the noseful memory of the profoundly inept 'happy warrior' as well as deer in the headlight republicans frozen in ineptitude and confusion in the US Congress... That's better for me.

Sanity -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 7:56:29 AM)
You go mnot, tell us all about your great peace-prize winning warlord

mnottertail -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 7:59:41 AM)
Henry Alfred Kissinger, born May 27, 1923, is a German-born American academic, political scientist, diplomat, and businessman. He is the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Jesus, can't you look this shit up yourself? Gain some knowledge on what you rant about?

Sanity -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:00:42 AM)
Again, interesting how you compare Obama to Kissinger

errantgeek -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:05:26 AM)
quote: I don't see him stepping up and having a spine. I see him as gathering votes. At minimum. The issue is this is more or less what Obama must do at this point. Congress, namely Congressional Republicans, are hellbent on doing nothing to improve the economy in order to make Obama a one-term president. In return, the GOP hopes to turn the election into a referendum on Obama and the economy. I shouldn't even have to repeat that, it's so embarrassingly self-evident by Congress' own actions and statements by Republican spokespeople. This is something Obama should have been doing for six months running, give or take. To get anything meaningful done, let alone win elections, the American people have to be clued into what's really happening on Capitol Hill. Now, attempting to pass a jobs bill by executive order may incite anger from the right and kick off a constitutional crisis, but one would hope the very existence of that controversy sheds light on the fact Congressional Republicans were elected to improve the economy and decrease unemployment, and instead they are doing the exact opposite in hopes of winning 2012. The thing to keep in mind about Obama is that he is a very staunch political realist and pragmatist. The political motivation behind his latest moves is clear: regardless of the end goal, exposing Congressional Republican malfeasance is a necessary cause. To do this, he needs to get national attention on what is and is not being done in Congress.

mnottertail -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:25:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Again, interesting how you compare Obama to Kissinger Nothing interesting about it, they are both winners. According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who “ ...shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses..." The Peace Prize has been awarded for more recent or immediate achievements, or with the intention of encouraging future achievements... Obama won it because he is not George W. Bush. That is, Adolf Hitler could have won it for the treaty with Chamberlain if he hadn't ran right out and bombed Poland, could he have waited six more months...... When Obama was elected, he did not give belligerent and bellicose speeches regarding the Middle East. And in fact, if you look at the Middle East TODAY, vis a vis the US, tension has racheted down a million percent. He was awarded the prize for "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." Yasar Arafat is a Nobel Peace prize winner. As is Anwar Al-Sadat. As is Shimon Perez. As is Mikhail Gorbachov. As is Le Duc Tho. As is Cordell Hull. If you had known anything about the Nobel Peace Prize whatsoever, the funding and scope of which was laid by the inventor of TNT, you might not be waddling around in terrified hysteria acting all confused.

Sanity -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:32:17 AM)
Obama spent the first three years cozying up to Goldman Sachs, GE, and other megabanks and megacorps. Taking fantastic vacations, having partys with the ultra rich and the super famous... Now its time to pretend he is here for the little people, because he wants another four years. What a guy!

RacerJim -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:32:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Can Obama Do Stimulus by Decree? quote: Obama Campaign Rolls Out Next Phase of Jobs Pitch “The only way we can truly attack our economic challenges is with bold, bipartisan action in Congress. The president will continue to pressure Congressional Republicans to put country before party and pass the American Jobs Act, but he believes we cannot wait, so he will act where they won’t.” -- White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer talking to the New York Times. For eight weeks, it was “Pass this bill.” Starting today in Las Vegas, the president will shift to “We can’t wait,” as he announces various unilateral actions that he will take in a bid to revive the failing economy. With bipartisan opposition to much of the president’s September proposals for a $47 billion stimulus package and $2 trillion tax increase on top earners, the president is hoping that he can now show that he has no choice but to act alone. As he has done on offering amnesty to preferred categories of illegal immigrants and has repeatedly attempted to do on global warming, the president is looking to work around legislative opposition to his plans by using executive action. I finally see that glimmer of a spark I was hoping for.... will it last? So, you either ignore or don't care that Obama couldn't even get the Democratic majority Senate to put country before party yet he accuses Republicans of doing exactly that then strongly implies he'll circumvent Congress if necessary and act unilaterally to do what he wants? This would not be the first time the usurper has circumvented Congress. Can you say DICTATOR?

Sanity -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:33:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim So, you either ignore or don't care that Obama couldn't even get the Democratic majority Senate to put country before party yet he accuses Republicans of doing exactly that then strongly implies he'll circumvent Congress if necessary and act unilaterally to do what he wants? This would not be the first time the usurper has circumvented Congress. Can you say DICTATOR? He does sound a lot like Hugo Chavez of late

mnottertail -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:37:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Obama spent the first three years cozying up to Goldman Sachs, GE, and other megabanks and megacorps. Taking fantastic vacations, having partys with the ultra rich and the super famous... Now its time to pretend he is here for the little people, because he wants another four years. Yeah, Capitalism, ain't it great? Getting your own bad breath blown back in your face. The republican party blew down campaign finance reform and stacked the court so they could get them to legislate from the bench that corporations were free to give unlimited amounts to their corporate appeasment slaves. And astonishingly, buying Sarah Palin a wardrobe so she didn't look like such a trashy ignorant cunt, but they couldn't buy her a brain. You get what you pay for.

errantgeek -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:39:06 AM)
quote: So, you either ignore or don't care that Obama couldn't even get the Democratic majority Senate to put country before party yet he accuses Republicans of doing exactly that then strongly implies he'll circumvent Congress if necessary and act unilaterally to do what he wants? This would not be the first time the usurper has circumvented Congress. Can you say DICTATOR? ...because failing to invoke cloture, a two-day process that requires 60 votes, in a 50-50 near-party-line split is totally equivalent to the Democratic Senate caucus breaking party ranks to vote against the president. Right?

thompsonx -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:50:23 AM)
quote: Can you say DICTATOR? Perhaps you might define for us your opinion of what a dictator is. You might then compare and contrast obama's actions with a true dictator like say nicholas II of russia

kalikshama -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:54:18 AM)
quote: Obama spent the first three years cozying up to Goldman Sachs, GE, and other megabanks and megacorps. Taking fantastic vacations, having partys with the ultra rich and the super famous... In Fox News revisionist GOP history, George W. Bush was a hard worker who was always at his desk doing the work of the American people, while Obama is just another party animal Democrat, who doesn't take his job seriously Look at how Don’t “Begrudge” Obama A Vacation was a Fox News talking point: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201108230007 So Fox has three new words for the week 1.Begrudge 2.Brain Room 3.Vacation Looks like they are making Frank Luntz work for a change http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/unusual-president-obama-vacation-martha-vineyard-200143017.html "I deliberately put quotation marks on the word 'vacation' as recognition that a modern U.S. president is never really on 'vacation,' not the way most people understand the word," Knoller writes. He notes that other presidents have endured similar criticism for personal travel. Obama's vacation time has totaled all or part of 61 days by Knoller's count, while Ronald Reagan's 43 visits to his ranch amounted to a total of 349 vacation days. George W. Bush, criticized for time spent at his Texas ranch, made 77 visits to Crawford, Texas, which added up to 490 days on vacation.

thompsonx -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 8:54:26 AM)
quote: He does sound a lot like Hugo Chavez of late Hugo chavez ...aint he the guy who gives free heating oil to the poorest americans because the u.s. govt. wont?

DarkSteven -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 9:09:22 AM)
Guys. Rise above the partisan bickering. Do you understand the implications? The GOP minority is abusing its power to block legislation in a hyperpartisan environment. FFS, things have gotten so dysfunctionak that Huntsman is being pilloried for his willingness to deal with Democrats, and Romney is being nailed for what appears to be decent legislation, because it resembles Obama's. The Republicans will block legislation for no reason other than Obama wants it, and the bell with whether it's good for the country or not. In response, Obama is resorting to cute tricks like reconciliation. If this is permitted to continue, the legislative branch will find itself reduced to very well-paid, impotentp speechmakers. It's way past time to vote third party. The two party system's grinding to a halt.

mnottertail -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 9:10:45 AM)
Oh, is that what dictator means? free heating oil, jeez....I must confess it doesn't sound much like it means or is spelt.

slvemike4u -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 9:53:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity When sleazy politicians raid the treasury to buy votes in earnest, you know that election season is underway . When Republicans do it,you know it is lobby season for corporate America [:)]

Sanity -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 10:01:48 AM)
You're ignoring a critical fact If the Reps didn't have bipartisan support from the Dems who also oppose this TAX bill then it would have sailed through the Senate by now quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Guys. Rise above the partisan bickering. Do you understand the implications? The GOP minority is abusing its power to block legislation in a hyperpartisan environment. FFS, things have gotten so dysfunctionak that Huntsman is being pilloried for his willingness to deal with Democrats, and Romney is being nailed for what appears to be decent legislation, because it resembles Obama's. The Republicans will block legislation for no reason other than Obama wants it, and the bell with whether it's good for the country or not. In response, Obama is resorting to cute tricks like reconciliation. If this is permitted to continue, the legislative branch will find itself reduced to very well-paid, impotentp speechmakers. It's way past time to vote third party. The two party system's grinding to a halt.

Sanity -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 10:05:48 AM)
Didn't Chavez's hero Joe Stalin use to give everything away for free And if its his to give away doesn't that make him the one percent quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: He does sound a lot like Hugo Chavez of late Hugo chavez ...aint he the guy who gives free heating oil to the poorest americans because the u.s. govt. wont?

mnottertail -> RE: Obama showing his backbone, finally? (10/25/2011 10:07:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Didn't Chavez's hero Joe Stalin use to give everything away for free And if its his to give away doesn't that make him the one percent The only thing Joe gave away was a trip to the gulag, or the dungeons in the kremlin.

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