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Arpig -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 8:59:51 AM)

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The Haloween thing is kind of a 'reach' Aylee.
More like a complete bullshit attempt to associate the protesters with child molesters if you ask me...Yeah, I know you didn't, but I thought I'd tell you anyway.




Termyn8or -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 9:06:03 AM)

FR

First of all people protesting on private property is a form of the most just and right eminent domain. Those people who did it at a bank were kinda stupid because you can't read the Constitution due to the shit stains. But this is not over. These people are protesting right now because they can't afford a fancy enough car. Seriously, they are in the streets because their credit sucks.

WAIT UNTIL THEY HAVE NO FOOD.

You want to talk about the timing of the arrests ? Let's talk about the timing of the start of the protests while we're at it. Why, all the sudden, now ? You don't amass $100,000 in debt overnight, at least with student loans. If you do you must have picked the most expensive colleges around. That means these are the kind of people who will be sold. They will buy things they cannot afford.

If you buy a house you figure out how much you can afford FIRST. It's an economic barrier in this country. If your Parents are rich you can go to a "better" school, which in no way means a better education, it really means you get to hobnob with people from more affluent families and make better connections for use in later life. Make enough money you can specify a White neighborhood too, all you do is buy in an area that's so fucking expensive the only Black person who can afford to live there is Oprah.

And your Parents better have CASH. If you have six kids all in college at $30,000 a year each, and you pay all of their rents and expenses as well as buy them cars, how far do you think a million a year goes ? You need to already have that money laying around. So in essence these people are being punished for trying to jump the economic barrier. The first one.

People don't realize the disparity in wealth in the world, it is not generally published. Without even going into the descendents of Crassus, I think Chris Rock put it pretty well. He said Shak is rich, the guy who signs his checks is wealthy.

So what happens now ? Well they are going to start arresting people. One of two possible outcome are at hand. The protesters will be scared away, hopefully to come back another day. Or things will get ugly. Let them get ugly. Let you see just how nasty this government is. My family and I have known cops and let me tell you, while they don't necessarily like their job, they know their job is to fuck people over. they are not kidding themselves just as Saddam's Royal Guard did not, nor the bodyguards of any dictator on this planet, including our own Secret Service. Get this through your heads. These people are in power, they fucking know it and they intend to stay there.

Now after the first bloodbath things will start to get serious. If the government flexes too much muscle they will lose general public support and then it's no holds barred. Right now there is an illusion. The illusion is that of freedom, having a voice, bullshit like that. This is going to prove that this is not a free country and people will finally wake up.

Then we can talk. Right now it would be a waste of time because the illusion has not yet been destroyed. I await that day. Many will don those tinfoil hats with pride once about a third of the conspiracy theorists have been proven right. Just wait. You will be up in arms as well. It will get to the point where it is more important than even staying home with the kids, because if it doesn't get important enough, those kids' lives are going to suck. They will seek to emmigrate, and be illegal aliens in a foreign land.

There is only one way to stop the process.

T^T




Aylee -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 9:08:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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The Haloween thing is kind of a 'reach' Aylee.
More like a complete bullshit attempt to associate the protesters with child molesters if you ask me...Yeah, I know you didn't, but I thought I'd tell you anyway.


That actually was not my intent. Keep in mind that "urinating in public" gets you on those lists as well.

I was thinking more of the mindset of, "We must protect the little kiddies at all costs."

Keep in mind that this is the country where parents take the kids' candy to be x-rayed before allowing them to eat any. Not that any tampered with by strangers candy has ever been found. And oh. . . every incident of tampered with candy has been caused my the children's own parents.

So, Arpig. . . why do YOU think they are all happening at the same time?




Termyn8or -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 9:14:33 AM)

"And oh. . . every incident of tampered with candy has been caused my the children's own parents. "

Really ?

Scuse me while I reflect on that. WTF does that say about people ?

T^T




Owner59 -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 9:15:05 AM)

"have essentially kissed any job opportunities good-bye with any major corporation who finds out that they were involved. " = predator corportaion/political persecution.

I see you`re all about freedom of thought and freedom from political persecution......[8|]


Maybe someday we`ll have McCarthy style hearings, to ferret out those radical Americans exercising their freedoms.


Or you more creative "freedom lovers" will have a site to "out" OWS protestors, maybe fuck them up that way,get them fired,etc.


This is a great example of republicans today.Bend over,get dry fucked by corporate America,pay THEM for the favor and ask if they want a tax break.



"oh please Mr.bankster,forgive us ,you stole our money and ruined our economy and then got billions of our money with bailouts and now you want to balance the budget on the poor and middle class but we still think you guys are awesome and will defend you against anyone with the gall to question you.

Whah?

Bend over again?

.........

Oh .....ok."




EternalHoH -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 9:43:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir
Those who are pissed off about a lack of jobs have essentially kissed any job opportunities good-bye with any major corporation who finds out that they were involved.




Well, at least those who are truly slaves to their McMortgages and who willingly took pay cuts to build the ownership equity of others will have less people competing for their jobs. So that's a bit of good news....






DomYngBlk -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 10:40:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Its so fucked up


I couldn't agree more. The 1% ruining the economy causes many people to be laid off including police. These protesters are fighting for police too and get arrested for it. I guess police want to continue losing their jobs, What dumb asses.



Damn straight. I mean, who really wants to work at becoming part of the 1% anyways. The odds on that are 1 out of 100. I would not even buy a lottery ticket with those odds. [8|]

The 99% should just take away the money that the 1% has. Even if it means being beat to a pulp because the 1% can hire big thugs to prevent that.





**Yeah, I read some satire with this theme today. You can find it here:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/why_we_must_lose_the_darn_percent_cfz8wKQQgEymfuZ58OImVO


Done did. Its called the Police Dept..




FirmhandKY -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 11:41:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I find it ironic that these crackdowns are happening in cities run by liberals.


Albuquerque, NM: Mayor Richard Berry, Republican.

I don't know his history, or political leanings other than he is a registered Republican.

Firm




SternSkipper -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 11:45:40 AM)

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There are a couple of threads going on about this, but there are more not being discussed, or mentioned.
It seems like, over the last couple of days, many cities have decided to take some action:


Yep... and they're already back... and there'll be a _big_ crowd in oakland tonight just like there was last night. 'Whatever' with regard to the cities... Of course they're scared of the precedent that's being set. Every day they stay. the credibility of the occupation aspect of the free speech direct action grows.
   I can't speak for your back yard events (Atlanta and Augusta, right?). But nationwide, the human and digital network is bigger and sounder than it's ever been.
   If the implication is because of some busts, they're finished... Ummmm ... nah ... that's simply not so.
  If it's to book mark that various mayor's are so freaked out they walk out on the steps of city hall in the morning with a declaration "The protesters may stay until <usually a date in Nov>" and then a day later try something the mayor of town X the night before tried. That's definitely true. I heard the mayor down in Atlanta is now resorting to trying to send the clergy down to pressure the protesters to leave.
  I was at a dinner meeting in Boston that was the equivalent of a green dragon tavern gathering. And a famous journalist who's walked away from the networks said this; "This country's municipal leaders have for the most part not seen a real act of free speech on the part of more that individuals in over 30 years. They are going to go crazy trying to get their head around how to deal with this." (I may be paraphrasing to a degree, but that's basically what he said). And that's what's happening. And those people weren't even the organizers. They were a group of people who threw a wine and cheese party to show support by buying a few hundred buck worth of tents after hearing it was going to happen from a mailing list.
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SternSkipper -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 11:49:30 AM)

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They are gathered in Grand Circus Park here, but I have not heard anything about arrests. Personally I would think the cops in Detroit have better things to do but we just got started so who knows.


I would hazard a guess Thishere, that because of the tough times Detroit has been and the caliber of the organizers that have stayed behind the exodus and poured their hearts into making stuff continue to work, that the cops have GOT to at least get these people.
But even if they do, arrests are a part of the the overall strategy




SternSkipper -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 11:51:08 AM)

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It's about time.


Here's your form letter


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BKSir -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 11:51:32 AM)

I'm just waiting for this to turn truly violent, and I think we all know it will. It's been shown time and time again that you really don't want to piss off the people of cities like Oakland, Detroit and Atlanta. They don't tend to fuck around and don't often put up with douchebaggery.

Not that I'm advocating violence publicly, mind you. Just sayin'.




SternSkipper -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 11:55:01 AM)

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Albuquerque, NM: Mayor Richard Berry, Republican.
I don't know his history, or political leanings other than he is a registered Republican.
Firm


I haven't reached anyone to confirm it actually went ahead... but Nashville asked me to add them on my Tweet Casting Server shooting directions to their downtown plaza as they expected to come under attack... so you should probably include them.





SternSkipper -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 12:01:49 PM)

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I'm just waiting for this to turn truly violent, and I think we all know it will. It's been shown time and time again that you really don't want to piss off the people of cities like Oakland, Detroit and Atlanta. They don't tend to fuck around and don't often put up with douchebaggery.


BK? As in burger king?
Yea well the "don't tend to fuck around" crap has been going on for more than a week in Oakland, 3 weeks in SF, more than 3 in NYC, and even boston pulled it once.
Or are you rubbing your hands together thinking they'll cease with the bean bags and tear gas and move to bullets?
That'll be real smart. they'll lose the whole battle the first night ANYBODY anywhere pulls a Kent State.
  But most of us can certainly appreciate the fascination that fantasy holds for the disturbed and intellectually late.





Sanity -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 12:03:46 PM)


Just a coincidence I am sure, Aylee. [:D]

On the actual topic, some grandpa from Nampa was arrested for trying to camp in a park thats illegal to occupy after dark

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/10/19/1844689/protest-gets-nampa-man-jailed.html#storylink=misearch

[image]http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2011/10/18/22/51/OwqIz.Em.36.jpg[/image]

Sure looks like an angry old fuck

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

That actually was not my intent. Keep in mind that "urinating in public" gets you on those lists as well.

I was thinking more of the mindset of, "We must protect the little kiddies at all costs."

Keep in mind that this is the country where parents take the kids' candy to be x-rayed before allowing them to eat any. Not that any tampered with by strangers candy has ever been found. And oh. . . every incident of tampered with candy has been caused my the children's own parents.

So, Arpig. . . why do YOU think they are all happening at the same time?




Hillwilliam -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 12:10:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Just a coincidence I am sure, Aylee. [:D]

On the actual topic, some grandpa from Nampa was arrested for trying to camp in a park thats illegal to occupy after dark

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/10/19/1844689/protest-gets-nampa-man-jailed.html#storylink=misearch

[image]http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2011/10/18/22/51/OwqIz.Em.36.jpg[/image]

Sure looks like an angry old fuck

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

That actually was not my intent. Keep in mind that "urinating in public" gets you on those lists as well.

I was thinking more of the mindset of, "We must protect the little kiddies at all costs."

Keep in mind that this is the country where parents take the kids' candy to be x-rayed before allowing them to eat any. Not that any tampered with by strangers candy has ever been found. And oh. . . every incident of tampered with candy has been caused my the children's own parents.

So, Arpig. . . why do YOU think they are all happening at the same time?


Damn smelly hippies.




slvemike4u -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 12:10:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Putting up a tent city and trashing public parks has nothing to do with free speech.
You have evidence supporting you assertion that they have trashed parks.Everything I have read or heard contradicts that bullshit assertion.
Servant do you even remember being a member of CWA....yanno that union that negotiated your comfy wages and working conditions.
You are an embarrassment to union members past and present.




errantgeek -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 12:11:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

Or are you rubbing your hands together thinking they'll cease with the bean bags and tear gas and move to bullets?
That'll be real smart. they'll lose the whole battle the first night ANYBODY anywhere pulls a Kent State.
  But most of us can certainly appreciate the fascination that fantasy holds for the disturbed and intellectually late.



I don't think it's a matter of watching the live stream, cock already in hand, waiting for the bullets to finally fly, so much as it is acknowledging between the cities involved, their respective histories, the national political climate, and the escalation of the past few weeks, another Kent State is bound to happen somewhere. There's a difference between eagerly anticipating something and admitting that something is just about an inevitability.

I've been of the opinion that violence is an inevitability since the Wisconsin protests, and the Prosser election. Political tensions have been growing unabated for two and a half years now, and there'll be a flash point sooner or later. Honestly, having watched the Oakland marches live last night I'm damned surprised that didn't turn into a full-blown riot right around the second or third time the cops gassed the protesters. The folks protesting in Oakland have some serious testicular fortitude, patience and wit.




Sanity -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 12:16:23 PM)


Looks like he smells like piss eh

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


[image]http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2011/10/18/22/51/OwqIz.Em.36.jpg[/image]

Damn smelly hippies.




FirmhandKY -> RE: "Occupy" Arrest All Over ... (10/26/2011 12:17:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

  If the implication is because of some busts, they're finished... Ummmm ... nah ... that's simply not so.
If it's to book mark that various mayor's are so freaked out they walk out on the steps of city hall in the morning with a declaration "The protesters may stay until <usually a date in Nov>" and then a day later try something the mayor of town X the night before tried. That's definitely true. I heard the mayor down in Atlanta is now resorting to trying to send the clergy down to pressure the protesters to leave. 

I'm not "against" the Occupy folks at all, Stern.  I do think they are protesting against the symptom, and not the disease, but I've stayed out of the threads about them, for the most part.

I started the thread because the timing of all the incidents struck me as unusual.  I'm not sure what to make of that, yet.

Firm




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