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tazzygirl -> Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 5:49:11 AM)

OAKLAND -- Seeking to cool the violent tone set by Tuesday night's street clashes with Occupy Oakland protesters, police pulled down barricades Wednesday near City Hall, dramatically reduced their presence and said they would allow nightly demonstrations in the area until 10 p.m.

Hundreds of protesters responded Wednesday night by packing the amphitheater at Frank Ogawa Plaza, where they voted to hold a citywide general strike on Nov. 2, when workers and students will be urged to stay home to show support of the Occupy movement.

A grassy section of the plaza - the site of an elaborate encampment that police dismantled Tuesday morning - remained fenced off for cleaning, though not for long. By 7 p.m., the fence had been torn down as the lawn filled with protesters chanting, "Whose park? Our park!" Police officers kept their distance.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/26/BAE71LMH3C.DTL#ixzz1bzBmgbcN




LillyBoPeep -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 6:24:02 AM)

i just hope the iraq veteran with the fractured skull will recover. 




erieangel -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 6:27:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

i just hope the iraq veteran with the fractured skull will recover. 


from what I have been getting from various occupy sites... go to occupy (whatever city) dot org for streaming videos and chat...Olson is in stable condition.  The expect he will live but don't know if there will be any brain damage because he has been in a chemically induced coma.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 6:30:14 AM)

I've been looking on a few of the boards used by ex military and ex marines (yeah, I know there's no ex marines) are PISSED. Evidently the story is (I havent seen confirmation) that the cop aimed for his head.




HannahLynn -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 7:47:12 AM)

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i just hope the iraq veteran with the fractured skull will recover.
you know it sucks for him, but really, what fucking difference does it make that he is an iraq veteran. the way you fuckers keep chanting that mantra makes me think that you believe having been unlucky enough to get sent there somehow makes him sacrosanct or special. remember, when the police can't control things, they get serious and call in the fucking military, so i wouldn't be putting them on no fucking pedestal.




thompsonx -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 8:15:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynn

quote:

i just hope the iraq veteran with the fractured skull will recover.
you know it sucks for him, but really, what fucking difference does it make that he is an iraq veteran.

Absolutely none...what makes a difference is that he was a marine. If you do not know why that makes a difference then you need to do a little research on who and what the marine corps is and what they do for a living.

the way you fuckers keep chanting that mantra makes me think that you believe having been unlucky enough to get sent there somehow makes him sacrosanct or special. remember, when the police can't control things, they get serious and call in the fucking military,

The police cannot call out the military. The govorner declares a state of emergency and then activtes the national guard.

so i wouldn't be putting them on no fucking pedestal.

Jarheads do not need pedestals...






LillyBoPeep -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 8:19:05 AM)

it's because it is a very clear difference between who he is and the way the OWS protestors are portrayed by the right. they're portrayed as dirty jobless hippies who don't contribute, and i think it's fair to say that the military contributes quite a bit in their own capacity.

it's not a "mantra," [8|] it's a statement of who he is in spite of the way he and others have been portrayed.






RacerJim -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 8:31:19 AM)

It doesn't surprise me in the least that legacy LIBERAL Oakland CA backed down to the OWS protesters.
It also doesn't surprise me in the least that the OWS protesters and LIBERALS on here are blaming that alleged Iraqi Veteran's injuries on police brutality without showing what precipitated the alleged police brutality.




kdsub -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 8:32:49 AM)

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The police cannot call out the military. The govorner declares a state of emergency and then activtes the national guard.


Not always the National guard alone...on occasion regulars can be used if needed.

Butch




Aneirin -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 8:39:34 AM)

Well, if the military are called out to quell the public, that is a clear indication what rights you believed you once held have been flushed down the pan.

But I wonder about your Patriot act in this respect and how it can be abused.




tazzygirl -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 9:21:06 AM)

Just what we need... another call for the National Guard for a repeat of Kent State.




errantgeek -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 9:32:10 AM)

Well, considering BART was "shut down" last night to prevent protesters from marching on the SF camp in solidarity, I seriously doubt this is going to ease tensions very much.




tazzygirl -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 9:33:27 AM)

As I have posted before... Its just the start. The fallout hasnt hit yet.




errantgeek -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 9:35:25 AM)

[image]http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll270/sweetchinmusical/490_3.jpg[/image]

I couldn't help myself.




DomKen -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 9:36:52 AM)

Despite the fantasies of certain racist scum, Oakland's mayor seems to have come to her senses.

http://blog.sfgate.com/aallison/2011/10/27/occupy-oakland-mayor-quan-issues-contrite-statement-after-police-crackdown/




tazzygirl -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 9:45:25 AM)

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Jean Quan wrote that she will “personally monitor” investigations of police misconduct. Yesterday, the ACLU of Northern California and the National Lawyers’ Guild demanded a full investigation. The groups also asked the Oakland Police Department to immediately produce records about the use of force in responding to the early morning raid of the Occupy Oakland encampment and the evening demonstration, and the detention of those who were arrested.


No city can afford a massive lawsuit at this time.




Owner59 -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 10:12:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

It doesn't surprise me in the least that legacy LIBERAL Oakland CA backed down to the OWS protesters.
It also doesn't surprise me in the least that the OWS protesters and LIBERALS on here are blaming that alleged Iraqi Veteran's injuries on police brutality without showing what precipitated the alleged police brutality.

Your regard for the GI is.....well.....moving.....[8|]....[8|]




Sanity -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 10:30:12 AM)


Why the fuck would anyone take such a thankless job

SF is the far lefts very own crown jewel. They really want to burn it, let it burn

quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

It doesn't surprise me in the least that legacy LIBERAL Oakland CA backed down to the OWS protesters.
It also doesn't surprise me in the least that the OWS protesters and LIBERALS on here are blaming that alleged Iraqi Veteran's injuries on police brutality without showing what precipitated the alleged police brutality.





slvemike4u -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 10:31:51 AM)

You expected something else from the likes of him ?
Why ?




mnottertail -> RE: Oakland backing down (10/27/2011 10:39:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
SF is the far lefts very own crown jewel. They really want to burn it, let it burn


Is this the deal, Oakland is burning? Is this one of Rushes shit spewing lies or???? Fox news has nothing on Oakland Burning, nor does any other news source, haven't checked the BBC, but I rather doubt they've picked it up.

IF the righties want to be servile craven mewling and puking slaves to corporate appeasement, let them, the GOP is hysterical, they are in crisis, they are imploding. They send out their hysterical mindless minions with talking points that are so far removed from reality that they look stupider by the letter they type.




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