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RE: Bad movies - 11/18/2011 5:27:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Two movies that come to mind are "Roadhouse" starring Patrick Swayze..the whole movie was one bar fight and bar fights in movies really bore me...

The second one was a Chuck Norris flick....I saw the commercial for it on TV and we went and all the action in the commercial was all the action you saw in the movie no more than that..it was called "Good Guys Wear Black"...ughhh...


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RE: Bad movies - 11/18/2011 5:56:49 PM   
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Yes, I will happily admit, in public, to Titanic being one of my favorite movies and probably one of the best movies ever. There is no documentary that has been seen by a fraction of the people- and it's a damn good documentary. Kids taking history should see that movie- it's a wonderful example of the stratification of society that existed at the end of the gilded age- a time that the Titanic put an end to. The fact that you need to focus on what is admittedly a silly love story doesn't change this- it's like someone saying that Forest Gump is a bad movie because Forest is a moron. And Forest Gump is another good look at history- the character is a neutral observer- it's a brilliant device.

Cameron put the love story on there so that you didn't need an omniscient narrator- but you met the main characters of the Titanic disaster, the captain, E. J. Smith, the designer Andrews- the nobility of the Strauss's choosing to die together, and the cowardice of some of the rich men who took the spaces in the lifeboats from women and children and even some of the characters of the time, such as Molly Brown. Putting the love story in the movie allowed the documentary to get made- it's just a device and if you can get past it, you may appreciate the brilliance of the movie.

Chuck Norris has made some pretty bad movies, but one of my favorites of his is 99 44/100% Dead- again with Ann Turkel.

And what was the dreadful mess that Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss did?- something that involved a psychiatrist and sailing- but it's really bad.

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I've still been unable to wade through Cleopatra- Liz Taylor did have a really great figure and was damn pretty, but this movie is a lot of ham acting- and it cost a fortune.

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RE: Bad movies - 11/18/2011 5:58:32 PM   
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And what was the dreadful mess that Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss did?- something that involved a psychiatrist and sailing- but it's really bad.





Was that What About Bob? I thought that was kind of funny.....

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RE: Bad movies - 11/18/2011 6:02:42 PM   
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I like the idea of Pet Sematary =p But PS 2 is exceeeedingly terrible. =p



Maybe I'd have liked it if I hadn't read the book first. 
I love to read Stephen King's books but his movies pretty much SUCK donkey a$$ 99% of the time tho I must admit to liking "It".



Stand By Me and Misery are in that 1%, I would say.

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RE: Bad movies - 11/18/2011 6:33:05 PM   
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Yes thanks- I think I must have repressed the name of the movie....

In terms of Stephen King- the best thing he ever did was acting as a goofball farmer in Creepshow (another example of a very watchable "bad" movie.)- and that includes his writing, which I think is pretty bad. Not sure I've like any of his stuff either written or made into a movie- Pet Sematary was really awful as was Langoliers.

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RE: Bad movies - 11/18/2011 6:36:43 PM   
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RE: Bad movies - 11/18/2011 7:09:56 PM   
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RE: Bad movies - 11/19/2011 4:26:28 AM   
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Stand By Me and Misery are in that 1%, I would say.

And The Dead Zone, The Shining, Christine, Creepshow, Needful Things (crap, but not half as crap as the book)...

King hasn't done half as badly for films as he likes to make out, and it's notable that the one that really stinks is the one he directed himself, and he isn't having several of the better ones. He's just being a primadonna and an arse about the whole thing, I suspect.


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RE: Bad movies - 11/19/2011 4:36:26 AM   
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Oh yeah, Misery is fantastic. That movie had me feeling the heebie-jeebies, and all without excessive gore and gushing blood. =p 



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RE: Bad movies - 11/19/2011 4:39:01 AM   
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I went to see it in plaster for a busted ankle & nearly passed out in pain memory when she hobbled him.
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Oh yeah, Misery is fantastic. That movie had me feeling the heebie-jeebies, and all without excessive gore and gushing blood. =p 




aaaiiiieeeeee!!!

i remember screaming out loud at that. =p thankfully i was watching it at home.

nice job of making a phrase like "dirty birdie" sound like "imminent and undeniable DOOM." =p


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RE: Bad movies - 11/19/2011 4:43:29 AM   
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I went to see it in plaster for a busted ankle & nearly passed out in pain memory when she hobbled him.
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Oh yeah, Misery is fantastic. That movie had me feeling the heebie-jeebies, and all without excessive gore and gushing blood. =p 




aaaiiiieeeeee!!!

i remember screaming out loud at that. =p thankfully i was watching it at home.

nice job of making a phrase like "dirty birdie" sound like "imminent and undeniable DOOM." =p




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RE: Bad movies - 11/19/2011 4:03:11 PM   
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Yes thanks- I think I must have repressed the name of the movie....

In terms of Stephen King- the best thing he ever did was acting as a goofball farmer in Creepshow (another example of a very watchable "bad" movie.)- and that includes his writing, which I think is pretty bad. Not sure I've like any of his stuff either written or made into a movie- Pet Sematary was really awful as was Langoliers.

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Oh, ouch --- The Stand is my favorite book.

I wrote an entrance essay to a college about why Stephen King is such a good author.

Um......I didn't get in.

I just love the way he writes, though. He's so detailed, but not in a boring, flowery way.

Oh, but this is about bad movies. Okay. I'll mention this - my ex husband had a part in Toxic Avengers 2. (I don't know what the role is - I never saw it. :)



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RE: Bad movies - 11/19/2011 6:04:57 PM   
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- Pet Sematary was really awful as was Langoliers.

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I never figured out Langoliers. It was like Pac Man taking a bad hit of acid.

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RE: Bad movies - 11/19/2011 9:35:40 PM   
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Oh, ouch --- The Stand is my favorite book.

I wrote an entrance essay to a college about why Stephen King is such a good author.

Um......I didn't get in.

I just love the way he writes, though. He's so detailed, but not in a boring, flowery way.

I liked most of Kings earlier stuff, including The Stand.

Pretty much all of his later stuff ... not so much.

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RE: Bad movies - 11/20/2011 12:38:45 AM   
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I never figured out Langoliers. It was like Pac Man taking a bad hit of acid.


That's a fair assessment, I'd think.
And it's so bloody LONG. Like seriously? You thought this crap deserved a bajillion hours of my life?


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RE: Bad movies - 11/20/2011 4:00:06 AM   
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Starship Troopers: Not because it was a mediocre action movie, but because it actively gave the source material the finger. It's one thing to not be faithful to the material or tweak things for the big screen, but they took the core philosophy and theme of the book and inverted it. They went against the source so much that the Heinlein family got his name taken off the advertising (yes, it was supposed to be *that* Starship Troopers). For those that aren't familiar with the book, it would be like starting with Star Trek: TNG and ending up with Blade Runner.

2001: A Space Travesty: Was a bit too much like it's name. I have a soft spot for Leslie Nielson, but that movie totally fell flat as a comedy. While 2001: A Space Odyssey suffered because it had long empty stretches of showing off, this movie suffered for the opposite reason; they tried to cram too much in. As a result, the comedic timing wasn’t there.

Napoleon Dynamite: It wasn’t funny. It was depressing.  It was watching idiots who are too unaware to realize that they are idiots failing at mundane things. What a horrible fate, to only know failure. For all your efforts to be for naught and never understanding why. I've never been a fan of plots that required the central characters to be idiots, and this was one giant steaming plateful of that.

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RE: Bad movies - 11/21/2011 11:09:59 AM   
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RE: Bad movies - 11/21/2011 12:12:07 PM   
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Starship Troopers: Not because it was a mediocre action movie, but because it actively gave the source material the finger. It's one thing to not be faithful to the material or tweak things for the big screen, but they took the core philosophy and theme of the book and inverted it.

That's the thing I like most about that film, to be honest. I find it a lot more entertaining than the Watchowski siblings doing the same to V For Vendetta. Besides, you're hardly going to get a Dutch director of Verhoeven's age sounding positive about the militaristic elitism in the book, are you?

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RE: Bad movies - 11/21/2011 12:19:13 PM   
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Kaliko

Yes thanks- I think I must have repressed the name of the movie....

In terms of Stephen King- the best thing he ever did was acting as a goofball farmer in Creepshow (another example of a very watchable "bad" movie.)- and that includes his writing, which I think is pretty bad. Not sure I've like any of his stuff either written or made into a movie- Pet Sematary was really awful as was Langoliers.

Sam




Oh, ouch --- The Stand is my favorite book.

I wrote an entrance essay to a college about why Stephen King is such a good author.

Um......I didn't get in.

I just love the way he writes, though. He's so detailed, but not in a boring, flowery way.



On the flip side he did write "The Green Mile" which was one of the best movies EVER! (IMHO)

Let's see, another "worse" would be "Unbreakable" w/Bruce Willis as a human "Action Hero"

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RE: Bad movies - 11/21/2011 2:58:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are a few movies that come to mind where the special effects killed the movie- and Catwoman is one of them. Its a shame, because of lot of it was pretty good. Another one was Firefox- which had a terrible matt job.

I'd forgotten about Napoleon Dynamite. I don't think I ever quite forgave my friend who said she liked the movie. I kept waiting for something to happen and well, it didn't.

I must admit, I liked Starship Troopers 1 and Heinlein's family shouldn't be so priggish- the old man wasn't. The movie is a good look at the interplay between commercialism and the military industrial complex that would have been declared treasonous when it was written-you'd have to answer to Senator Joe MaCarthey. Note that Starship Troopers 2 is close to unwatchable, and Starship Troopers 3 is so bad, its kind of comical. Verhoeven's take on the direction of society that found in Robocop is got some prescience given conditions in Detroit these days.

And the problem with Eyes Wide Shut wasn't the acting- which I thought was pretty good- the problem is that the movie is about Kubrick's fear of sex and he just doesn't do humans well- he's like Crichton- he does situations well- not character development.

Sam

And if you want to talk about deviating from source material- well, Blade Runner works a lot better than the book it's based on- Do Androids dream of Electric Sheep? (I never did like Philip K. Dick's writing.) I know they lifted the title from one of Alan Dean Fosters books, but I think the book sucked- his stuff was just bad.

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