Wolf1020
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Firstly... do you realize that most of the jobs these people are doing are not jobs Americans really want? Have you ever spent the day bent over a row of strawberry plants in the blazing California sun? All day? Would you do that job for 3.50 an hour? You willing to cut someone's lawn for 5 bucks? I bet even your kid wouldn't cut your neighbors lawn for 5 bucks.
Why can they not become legal first? That is the entire problem, legality. As to jobs Americans don't want plenty of Americans will pour a driveway, lay tar on a roof, mow lawns, scrub a toilet. Will they do it at slave wages? No they wont. Nor should they have to because someone who has violated their nations borders will do it for that wage. The only reason that becomes the going wage is because that is what illegal's will do it for, not because it is a fair wage.
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Secondly, if they made the whopping 5.50 an hour for their labor and paid taxes on it.. do you have any idea how much they would be required to pay if they were supporting a family of say... 4? Not nearly as much as we give back to the wealthiest 2 percent in tax breaks each year (yanno, somehow I would rather see Pedro feed his kid each week than Paris buying a new hand bag each week with my tax dollars, call me fucking crazy!!)
And I should care why? Americans have to do it to I don't care if you come from a third country rat hole. They put honest Americans out of work, not making a living period taxes or no taxes. Learn a trade work for a fair wage rather then for nothing and make more then 5.50 an hour. If you want to come here paying our taxes like every one else is part of coming here, don't like it stay home and better your country. As to the wealthiest 2 percent do you realize how much they pay in taxes? They pay their fair share why should they get it up the ass from the government more then any other American just because they have worked their asses off and become a success? That is called capitalism, you work your ass off, better yourself, and you get rewarded for it. If you have a problem with that move to a socialist country, preferably try sneaking in and see what happens to you for comparison to what'll happen to you here.
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Thirdly and most egregiously of all... do you know that one in every 128 Americans (that is LEGAL Americans) is in prison (and if they ever clean up Washington that ratio will probably freaking skyrocket even more) is in prison. That's 2,198,609 legal American citizens who are currently in prison .... God only knows what that number would sky rocket to if you took in the numbers who were let out in say.. the past 5 years? Don't blame crime on the illegals. Look in your own back yard for that.
What is the key word? Come on you know it you even capitalized it. Can we say it again one more time? LEGAL. Those born here or legal are our problem. And as you so graciously point out a big enough problem at that. Why in the hell should we have to deal with the added criminals from other countries? We have enough home grown we don't need more and guess what? That's what every illegal is. I don't blame illegal's for all I crime, but the fact is one, all illegal's are criminals, and two we have enough home grown ones we don't need more logs on the fire. 10-33% of those in Americas prisons are illegal's, do a quick internet search and that's roughly what the statistic will range from. That is a low of one in ten to a high of just more then three in ten of those in prisons are illegal's. That's a lot of money when you figure how much it costs to keep someone in prison. To use a nice round number it costs 20 grand to keep someone in prison per year. Going in the middle of the percentage of illegal's in prisons I used 20%. With these figures it costs 8,400,000,000 per year to keep illegal's in prison. This isn't including any illegal inmates who need special care. Do our home grown criminals eat up more? Bet your ass they do. But again, we don't need close to eight and a half billion logs thrown on the fire. And it doesn't even include illegal's on any forms of welfare or what it costs our nations hospitals in mandatory treatments they need to give illegal's.
Now I do agree with what you say next. If we enforced what we have it would cut out a big chunk. Problem is it isn't very efficient and costs a hell of a lot as it is let alone if we enforced it to the letter to handle all of them. And yes you are also right about employers. However, if the illegal's weren't here to provide the cheap labor they wouldn't be able to employ them. These people NEED to be dealt with, but so do the illegal's which are the root problem. On top of that you still have the things we just give them. Can't afford to have your baby in a nice clean hospital? Hop the boarder and get to the emergency room and bam not only did you have your kid in a country with some of the best hospitals in the world but on top of that your kid is an American citizen on top of that. Welfare? There's another great one if you can swindle it like plenty do. Employers are a big incentive, but even if you crack down on them illegal's will still come here.
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