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angelikaJ -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 4:22:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

We don't eat fried foods. We used to eat kfc like close to once a year or what ever but the last time it made me sick. That was enough for me. when we eat bread it's largely wheat and rare. I next to never eat potato's, but other than white, what are other potato options?


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Tfb,
A lot of poor posture is simply bad habits. That is something you can remind yourself about. Shoulders back when you walk. Small little steps....ask the physical therapist for other reminders.
Your eating habits are likewise bad habits which you can unlearn. Make healthy choices: lots of fiber, vegetables and lean protein in moderation. Stay away from greasy fried food and things like white bread, white rice and white potatoes....also things that contain white flour and sugar or a lot of any type of fat.

Your lack of energy is simply the result of bad habits.
You can change those.
Don't give up!
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Tfb,
re: potatoes, believe it or not sweet potatoes in a normal serving size (i potato) are much better for you than white potatoes. They have fiber and vitamin A.

As for the rest of my remark, which you did not comment on I do hope it isn't that you focus on what doesn't fit that you disregard the rest.

Repeated efforts to change bad habits will give you positive results over time.




PolyDommesgirl -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 5:21:23 AM)

I have offended many people in this tread.
I offer my apologies.
Furthermore I bow out of any future conversions with regard to, or any future discussions generated by Toppingfrmbottom.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 7:41:29 AM)

Thank you wanders. The pt doesn't yet recommend yoga for those who have had their core atrophy and weaken, because to begin with you won't have the strength to control those muscles, ,but she did say Pilates was a very good option. And there's a very, very simple exercise she gave us to do, that if you can be on your hands and knees you can do it. If you can't be on your hands and knees you can do it on your back, but personally I find being on my back brings on back cramps and muscle spasm, and on my hands and knee's don't. It's basically sucking the belly button in and up if you're on your back, if you're on your hands and knees you still suck it up and in but you round your back up like a angry cat, and then you relax, then you do it again. making sure to breath the whole time, which right now for me is tricky hehehe, but I'll get the hang of it, if it feels good you can even relax into a downward sway,

Doesn't sitting on an exercise ball use the same body mechanics as good posture?

Yes, I worry about my mom and her refusal to be mindful of her health annoys me, just as I am sure I annoy/ have annoyed people with my refusal to be mindful of my health. We've all had the health talk quite a bit through the years lol. And yes some stuff doesn't sink in, but some does. Maybe we can find a pool program to go to, and swim together, that's low impact enough that even the most limpy of us can go. Kiaser does have a program with a pool, and when I was a member of a gym with a pool near by, and so was she, she got into the pool too.

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ORIGINAL: wandersalone



TFTB - please be careful of using an exercise ball too much. If you do get one, ensure that you get clear instructions (with pictures if possible) of the correct way to sit on one.  Many people buy these balls and start using them for hours a day however they sit incorrectly, with their spine twisted etc to compensate for the pain or discomfort, and this actually agravates any injuries.

To  summarise a few things so far -
a corset - terrible for your back muscles, it will increase pain and symptoms when you are not wearing the corset but when it is on you will feel and look ok.

yoga - great - start with just a couple of the very basic stretches, the key is to hooooooooooooold the stretch [:D] not to bounce or jiggle your body.

pilates - again an excellent choice - mat pilates just needs you and a yoga mat.  Ask your PT to give you exercises to build your core muscles first, especially the ones in your groin and the ones that go on either side of your rib cage and spine.  It is really hard at first to  feel these muscles but eventually you will be able to identify them and isolate them quite easily.

With your walks, it sounds like you are worried about your mum.  Even though it sounds like it is a bit annoying how about you encourage her to go for three short 5 minute walks with you a day, that way  she gets her much needed exercise, you get your much needed exercise and you get to  do something wonderful for your mum's health as well as your own. 

Take a camera with you so while she is talking about all of the gardens or something you can tune out and focus on framing future photos in your viewfinder.

And yep the pool sounds great, I love water, it is so relaxing and makes me feel happy.

TFTB, we have seen you make some changes over the years, sure to some who don't know you, it seems like you do ask a lot of questions (because it is true[:D]) but  what you seem to then do is process all of that information slowly and you think about it a bit more, ask some more questions, rinse, repeat and then...one day, you start making some changes.

I am sure I am not alone in really enjoying watching you take these small steps to improve your health and your life and your future, you did it with your food though that still  needs more improvement and now you will get back into your exercise routine.[:)]

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GreedyTop -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 7:44:45 AM)

doll, just do what it takes.. baby steps at first!

*has faith in you*

and no, it won't be easy at first, and likely there WILL be setbacks (as you know), but after a setback, just reset your mind and start over! *hugs*




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 7:45:43 AM)

No. I'm focusing on effort too. I go out to see the goldens today that I volunteer with every week, that's gonna be part of my exercise today. I looooooooooooooove sweet potato's and yams.


I need a new computer chair, this one is broken and allowes you to lean to far back and makes proper posture hard because of the tilt. Personally, I liked the chairs in the conference room of the hospital they were pretty comfy and they didn't have the propensity to break like rolling chairs do, cause they're not a seat mounted on a base, like most pc chairs are.


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ



Tfb,
re: potatoes, believe it or not sweet potatoes in a normal serving size (i potato) are much better for you than white potatoes. They have fiber and vitamin A.

As for the rest of my remark, which you did not comment on I do hope it isn't that you focus on what doesn't fit that you disregard the rest.

Repeated efforts to change bad habits will give you positive results over time.






Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 7:48:06 AM)

That's the hard part restarting your mind, cause once you allow bad habits to creep back in it seems 5 times harder to booth those out. I do know I was doing better on a whole when I was disiplined, than when I let laziness creep in.


Purrring in my friends ear, like a good cat.
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

doll, just do what it takes.. baby steps at first!

*has faith in you*

and no, it won't be easy at first, and likely there WILL be setbacks (as you know), but after a setback, just reset your mind and start over! *hugs*





VirginPotty -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 8:08:57 AM)

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Thank you wanders. The pt doesn't yet recommend yoga for those who have had their core atrophy and weaken, because to begin with you won't have the strength to control those muscles, ,but she did say Pilates was a very good option. And there's a very, very simple exercise she gave us to do, that if you can be on your hands and knees you can do it. If you can't be on your hands and knees you can do it on your back, but personally I find being on my back brings on back cramps and muscle spasm, and on my hands and knee's don't. It's basically sucking the belly button in and up if you're on your back, if you're on your hands and knees you still suck it up and in but you round your back up like a angry cat, and then you relax, then you do it again. making sure to breath the whole time, which right now for me is tricky hehehe, but I'll get the hang of it, if it feels good you can even relax into a downward sway,


Oddly enough that was my least favorite exercise in Pilates class.  I'm sure it was because I wasn't breathing properly......exhale up, inhale down or vice versa.  I'm not very good at breathing correctly during exercising, especially in class.  I always catch myself holding my breath during the more challenging moves so at the end of class my face is so red it looks like my head's going to explode![sm=angry.gif]

I do love the group exercise classes!  We have a great time together and it's always fun to challenge each other.

TFTB, I haven't been following your workouts so I'm not sure if you tried good old fashioned walking for 30 minutes.  Remember the "bald lady" fitness guru from the '80's--Susan Powers I believe is her name  --she was grossly overweight & she decided to just walk everyday.  Building up her endurance and walking further as she started gaining more energy.  Get a pedometer & track your progress.  If you have an iPhone or something equivalent you can download one for free/or the RunKeeper program which tracks walks too.

The stability ball is great but as someone mentioned if you don't have the right form you'll only end up hurting yourself.  That's true in any exercise that you do.  When I started doing sit-ups I always found myself PULLING my head up w/my arms so that my elbows were up near my eyes.  An instructor told me just last year that to keep your elbows pointed out, if you find them coming in toward your face then you know that you're using your neck which will definitely cause injuries.  Now when I do sit ups/crunches when I feel my arms going inward I know my form is off.

I'm jumping ahead, baby steps, don't try & do everything at once, you'll only become discouraged & quit.  There's a good support thread here http://www.collarchat.com/m_3689950/tm.htm for those that want to exercise/establish a proper diet.  Noone ever judges anyone, merely offering support/suggestions.  Come on by & give it a try.





GreedyTop -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 8:10:23 AM)

well, hon.. if ya want me to, just email me when ya feel ya need a reminder ok? I'll be happy to do what I can to help you do a reset :)




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 8:58:30 AM)

Laughing in real life, I watched a show about the 25 most memorable infomercials ever and she was on it. That's the only reason I know her. I was born in 1982, a lot of that stuff is ovveer my head. I either wasn't born or was to little to remember, or was not exposed to that. I too, found myself holding my breath while exercising, specially laying on my back.

I'm not really physically capable of 30 minutes of strait walking yet. I need to build up to walking fiirst lol. We joined a gym, and I know, tthat's failed so many times in the past, but this time I don't think Daddy will let it fail, and they have a treaddmill, I can do 10 minutes on a treadmiill. In fact I want a treadmill att homee. So I can walk in all weathers, all conditions and can even be naked if I wish lol.


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ORIGINAL: VirginPotty


Oddly enough that was my least favorite exercise in Pilates class.  I'm sure it was because I wasn't breathing properly......exhale up, inhale down or vice versa.  I'm not very good at breathing correctly during exercising, especially in class.  I always catch myself holding my breath during the more challenging moves so at the end of class my face is so red it looks like my head's going to explode![sm=angry.gif]

I do love the group exercise classes!  We have a great time together and it's always fun to challenge each other.

TFTB, I haven't been following your workouts so I'm not sure if you tried good old fashioned walking for 30 minutes.  Remember the "bald lady" fitness guru from the '80's--Susan Powers I believe is her name  --she was grossly overweight & she decided to just walk everyday.  Building up her endurance and walking further as she started gaining more energy.  Get a pedometer & track your progress.  If you have an iPhone or something equivalent you can download one for free/or the RunKeeper program which tracks walks too.

The stability ball is great but as someone mentioned if you don't have the right form you'll only end up hurting yourself.  That's true in any exercise that you do.  When I started doing sit-ups I always found myself PULLING my head up w/my arms so that my elbows were up near my eyes.  An instructor told me just last year that to keep your elbows pointed out, if you find them coming in toward your face then you know that you're using your neck which will definitely cause injuries.  Now when I do sit ups/crunches when I feel my arms going inward I know my form is off.

I'm jumping ahead, baby steps, don't try & do everything at once, you'll only become discouraged & quit.  There's a good support thread here http://www.collarchat.com/m_3689950/tm.htm for those that want to exercise/establish a proper diet.  Noone ever judges anyone, merely offering support/suggestions.  Come on by & give it a try.



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Remember the "bald lady" fitness guru from the '80's--Susan Powers I




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 9:00:48 AM)

Ok, and I'll be sure to email you if I am making progress, that's always nice to hear about. You're free to email me when you want too. I like getting emails.
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

well, hon.. if ya want me to, just email me when ya feel ya need a reminder ok? I'll be happy to do what I can to help you do a reset :)





VirginPotty -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 9:36:10 AM)

[8|]I was off on all counts!  Her name is Susan Powters and she was hot in the 90's!

Well, you get the general gist of my post![:D]




agirl -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 10:45:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

I like food to much and have gotten lazy. That's all. But also now I'm getting sort of immobile and do not get around very well any more, and that makes it hard. I get incredibly tired and weak feeling so fast, and the pain afterwards of being active, nothing soothes it, so you're just laying there feeling miserable.



I understand. My daughter is just over 15st (roughly 212lbs). A lot of the things you've said above apply to her and she's just as honest about it as you are.

I appreciate the difficulties that she has keeping motivated to lose weight and to exercise, especially as she's not hugely interested in physical fitness to the degree that I am. She doesn't get the same enjoyment that I do from physically working hard. This is unfortunate as she still needs to do it, to shift lbs, for it to become more pleasant.

She was a pretty normal weight until she had a stroke when she was 23yrs. Three months in hospital recovering the use of one half of her body helped make food quite a big comfort.

You're quite right that it's hard to alter habits, especially if you have a long way to go. Also, it's jolly nice to eat curry, cheese, mayonaise, nibbly high fat snacks. I love those things too.

Both my daughter and I know that if she was living with me , she'd be slim within a year. Not because we like different foods, but because she eats far more out of comfort and boredom predominantly and I eat for nutrition predominantly. She'd eat what I put in front of her and love it and when she got *munchy* there are always munchy, tasty and nutritious nibbles to eat.

Still, on the bright side........I know it's only going to take a couple of months of persistant encouragement for her to see some results, enough to help her *see* that it's possible and obtainable. I think she's lost sight of that fact.

It's a lot harder to stay motivated for a LONG time and even more so when the people around you are producing food that will do you no favours at all. It takes a different mentality and strength. Losing a few lbs when you're marginally overweight makes a HUGE difference.......but if my daughter loses a few lbs , she's still fat.

I hope you can overcome the emotional and practical stumbling blocks, you seem to have a lot of people rooting for you here.

Regards, agirl

















LadyHibiscus -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 1:24:28 PM)

Even losing ten percent of your body weight makes an enormous difference. Granted, that can be a rather large number!

I did this exercise class once with resistance things that we attached to our legs, they were like flanges, so your lower legs looked like a transformer. Even running across the pool in them was great resistance. Try walking in the water, rather than swimming. Swimming is generally not the best weight loss exercise due to pools being cold, but the weight off the joints is wonderful.




agirl -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 1:32:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Even losing ten percent of your body weight makes an enormous difference. Granted, that can be a rather large number!

I did this exercise class once with resistance things that we attached to our legs, they were like flanges, so your lower legs looked like a transformer. Even running across the pool in them was great resistance. Try walking in the water, rather than swimming. Swimming is generally not the best weight loss exercise due to pools being cold, but the weight off the joints is wonderful.


I'm not a fan of swimming, I'm not sure why but it's never appealed to me much unless I'm naked and in the sea.......however I love cycling and my daughter likes it too.

My sneaky plans usually involve me inviting my grandaughter on a cycling trip and * we can have a picnic and bring Mummy*. That's hard for my daughter to resist......lol

agirl




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 1:34:07 PM)

LOL! I stopped cycling many years ago, they spray pesticides everywhere here and I can't be around them. I used to love riding my bike!




LillyBoPeep -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 1:34:38 PM)

Yeah! Check out the weight loss thread :) It's a great place to get motivation and tips, or just blow off steam.
Results are somethinng that kinda sneak up on you. One day you just notice you haven't gotten as tired as you usually do, or an achy joint suddenly feels better. Looser-fitting clothes - that's my faaavorite one.
I ran back and forth across the park with my dog and neither of us got winded. It was nice. :)

Also, if you like videos (do you?) and don't mind a little Christianiness (some people are religious, some aren't, i dunno =p), try the Walk Slim videos by Leslie Sansone. They're at Wal-Mart and are really cheap ($10), and usually come with a simple resistance band (folded up inside the DVD case). I got one for my mom and it's one of the only things that motivates her, and she has fun. My mom gained weight and lost mobility after we had a car accident riding together back from KS, but even with her issues, she was able to get benefit from it.

The one I got my mom is 4 Fast Miles; you can do all the miles, or only one at a time, and they have different paces. My mom is still working up to some of the faster ones, but the most important thing is that she DOES it.
Sometimes I go and exercise with her for additional motivation, and layer dance moves on it to increase difficulty for myself. =p It's fun. =p




kalikshama -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 4:16:52 PM)

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Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 5:05:22 PM)

I would do so much better too if I had someone who cooked healthy, and wanted to do the cooking. I envy people who love to cook and not only that love to cook healthy.



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ORIGINAL: agirl



I appreciate the difficulties that she has keeping motivated to lose weight and to exercise, especially as she's not hugely interested in physical fitness to the degree that I am. She doesn't get the same enjoyment that I do from physically working hard. This is unfortunate as she still needs to do it, to shift lbs, for it to become more pleasant.



Both my daughter and I know that if she was living with me , she'd be slim within a year. Not because we like different foods, but because she eats far more out of comfort and boredom predominantly and I eat for nutrition predominantly. She'd eat what I put in front of her and love it and when she got *munchy* there are always munchy, tasty and nutritious nibbles to eat.

Still, on the bright side........I know it's only going to take a couple of months of persistant encouragement for her to see some results, enough to help her *see* that it's possible and obtainable. I think she's lost sight of that fact.




















Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 5:08:17 PM)

The gyms always claim their pools are heated, but I always think they're cold. It's like one time I got goosebumps I'd been in so long and it was so cold. I can't quite swim anyway, not traditionally cause I can't kick my legs with out pain but I sort of doggy paddle and I do walk laps.


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Even losing ten percent of your body weight makes an enormous difference. Granted, that can be a rather large number!

I did this exercise class once with resistance things that we attached to our legs, they were like flanges, so your lower legs looked like a transformer. Even running across the pool in them was great resistance. Try walking in the water, rather than swimming. Swimming is generally not the best weight loss exercise due to pools being cold, but the weight off the joints is wonderful.





Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Would corsetting Along with pt and exercise help with sway back? (11/17/2011 5:16:45 PM)

I've never rreeally done work out videoos, a long time ago when they were the only form of exercise we could really get, they were handy though. What Daddy and I reallly like is just dance for the wii, and a few other pysicallly active type video games, tthhe dancing and singing is so fun you really don't reeaalize yyou're being active.
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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep


Also, if you like videos (do you?) and don't mind a little Christianiness (some people are religious, some aren't, i dunno =p), try the Walk Slim videos by Leslie Sansone. They're at Wal-Mart and are really cheap ($10), and u






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