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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 9:01:29 AM   
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What a dumb ass thing to say. 


Same sentiment I've had about most of your posts so far.

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You lose your kid if you find yourself surrounded by criminals? 


If you willingly put your child in harm's way by surrounding them with hardened thugs, yes.

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If you get subpoenaed into court, you go.  It doesn't matter if there is a murder trial, or drug court going on in the next court room.


And that illustrates my POINT about there not being "murderers and rapists roaming the halls," unlike what some chicken-little types would lead us to believe.

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Murderers and rapists roam the halls all the time, you aren't naive enough to think they are all in jail, are you?


By that logic they're also filling the streets and living next door to *everyone* so it shouldn't matter if the woman goes into the hall to breastfeed amongst them since they're amongst us in other areas of life as well.

Thank you for making my point for me.

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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 9:12:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		having been someone who has been at court for drug related charges, yeah..I was in the hallways prior to my apearance after bail.

I do not think I was the only person in that situation. I also do not think that my relatively minor drug charge was an exception.

someone who has been indicted and imprisoned wont be in the halls. Someone who has been indicted and let out on bail (pending a conviction) might very well be in the hallways.



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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 9:49:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		So, let me get this straight. The idea here is that a bird giving suck to her brat is an insult to the magistrate and all right?

Gor! If your Yank judges get upset at that, then they don't want to be handling things around here. And of course the courthouse is crawling with the worst of the worst, I mean every time you cross the law, they tell you to go to the courthouse now don't they? It's like a bleeding reprobates convention there, I mean if you wake up on Sunday and find you've lost one of your mates that your Mum don't approve of, well you know where to find him come Monday morning now don't you?


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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 10:07:28 AM   
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of course the courthouse is crawling with the worst of the worst

Indeed, including all kinds of lawyers.

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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 10:27:15 AM   
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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 10:29:59 AM   
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How old was the one being fed?

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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 10:31:00 AM   
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So, let me get this straight. The idea here is that a bird giving suck to her brat is an insult to the magistrate and all right?

Gor! If your Yank judges get upset at that, then they don't want to be handling things around here. And of course the courthouse is crawling with the worst of the worst, I mean every time you cross the law, they tell you to go to the courthouse now don't they? It's like a bleeding reprobates convention there, I mean if you wake up on Sunday and find you've lost one of your mates that your Mum don't approve of, well you know where to find him come Monday morning now don't you?




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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 10:32:09 AM   
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I see a legal pretext for punishing the woman based on this question.

How old was the one being fed?



less than 5 mos, I believe...



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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 11:01:07 AM   
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To me it is about the law when it comes to the right of a child to feed, and its mother feeding it.
sensibilities against a hungry child, a hurting child a child that needs comforting
sorry , doesnt fit in my book
the laws to protectpregnant and breastfeeding women were fought for years ago and added to the books for a bloody good reason
personal morality is too hard to legislate beyond equality and non discrimination. If you wanna ban it, you are gonna have to change the law.




So if her hurting child started screaming at the top of her lungs (your example expanded), the woman shouldn't have gotten up because her "right" legally is to sit there? I don't think so.


If all you can say out of my post is that strawman... then you really need to get a clue. I didnt say that I didnt even allude to it, so bite me and grow up.
Just because you think that you are special having law in your background doesnt make you any better than anyone else. Get that block on your shoulder seen to, and stop using your "disability" and education as a crutch for being an utter boor on many many matters. if you are going for COTY then be a big girl and say so...
Which leads me to say...

PS to Cheri. I thought this thread had been shut but I hadnt signed in, DOH, so I will say it here, Regards post 287. WTG ... thing is, it will be like water off a ducks back. But sincerely well done:)




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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 11:02:41 AM   
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So, would it be inappropriate to feed a hungry baby a bottle while in a courtroom? Because you still have to burp them, clean them, and they fill a diaper with something vile, too, needing changed. So, if that happens, do you change the baby in the courtroom, or leave? So, should babies be allowed in a courtroom at all???

I found with my kids that while they were breastfed, their poo was very mild, almost sweet-smelling. They didn't get stinky until they went on solid food.
IMHO, they should not be in a courtroom for any reason, unless it is to hand off custody on that very day.


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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 11:18:34 AM   
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The above quote shows your original statement.
No dispute.

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Those who agree with me are sensible
No, that is not what I said at all, not even close. Let's look at what I actually said, OK.
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Those supporting a mother's right to breastfeed undisturbed have made sensible, reasoned posts.
Clearly I didn't say anything at all about the people, only the posts they have made in this thread.
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those that do not are insulting.
Again no, not even close. Here is what I did say:
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Those who oppose, on the other hand have made ridiculous, insulting, impassioned and to be honest, occasionally asinine (Hi VP) posts.
Again, not a thing about the people, only the posts they have made on this thread.
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If you are not insulted, then, pray tell who were you referring to.
What are you talking about? In my original post I made a comment regarding the nature of the posts on each side of the debate, and then followed it with something basically agreeing with IASS. There is nothing in there at all about being insulted by anything.
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The "ridiculous" things you quoted were not ridiculous to me.
Fair enough, this would be one of those differences of opinion situations I guess eh?
I would love to see what color the sky is in your world.  Enjoy it there.


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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 1:21:34 PM   
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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 1:33:02 PM   
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I had decided yesterday that I wasn't going to post on this thread anymore but during my drive home last night it was preying on my mind the nasty analogy that I used & I wanted to apologize for using that regarding this topic.  I stand by my opinons but I could have just used a better way to get my point across. 

Thanks to those that responded in an intelligent manner and actually made some valid points reg. bottle vs. breast. (Poverty factor never entered into my mind)
Again, I do apologize.

Carry on with the debate, it makes for interesting reading.


Potty I admire you so much for this. May you be rewarded with a kazillion spankings.

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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 2:19:26 PM   
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I may have missed something, so will ask...... is it illegal or against some state rule to breastfeed in the place she did? Did she break a law of some kind?

agirl



You do understand the difference between "legal" and "appropriate," do you not?


Sarcasm noted.

I asked because I was curious whether or not it was legal.Full stop.

The matter of whether something is *appropriate* or not does have to take into account culteral differences. So yes, coming from a different culture where breastfeeding is common and seen as mundane, I am slightly surprised to find that it's unusual to see someone doing it in the USA.

My view and opinions regarding breastfeeding stem from living in this culture and I hold them because they make sense. I don't have a *fuck you* attitude toward people that might possibly be offended and I don't think it's alright to run around doing exactly as you please without ANY consideration for those around you but I WILL ignore the opinions of people that suggest that you should *bottle feed in public as they don't want to see it*, or that they are being *subjected to it*.

There's a big difference between *not giving a damn* and having taken care not to deliberately piss people off for the sake of it.

My responses have mostly been refuting that it's a jolly big palavar to feed in public; that it's some kind of longwinded and hugely noticeably activity. From personal experience, it is not. I didn't recognise anything in blushes description of a breastfeeding ritual.

Perhaps, as it's quite normal here we are better at quietly, practically and unnoticeably, getting on with it. A shirt that raised from the bottom so that I wasn't baring my boob, a cotton shawl for the baby and a muslin nappy was all I needed.

To be honest, during the first month after birth, I didn't have the energy to go out at ALL but after a while food shopping had to be done and older children needed to be picked up and taken various places, school plays had to be gone to, parent's evenings needed to be attended and so on and so forth. Life goes on and unless you have a nanny or an au pair, you have to get on with it.

It's MUCH easier, and FAR more pleasant, to sit in a comfy armchair at home and feed with your feet up and a cup of tea.....and FAR from hiking my babies around for a pastime, if there was an opportunity to leave them at home with hubby or my next door neighbour, I took it. Even so, with the best will in the world, my babies needed to be fed while they were with me and away from home, so fed they got.

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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 4:13:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well done Cheri, well done indeed! I think the term for what you just did to her is... 

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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 4:18:33 PM   
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Well done Cheri, well done indeed! I think the term for what you just did to her is... 

Slam dunk works too imo

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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 4:36:47 PM   
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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 4:54:38 PM   
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I didn't recognise anything in blushes description of a breastfeeding ritual.
Neither did I, and my Ex nursed 3 children. She nursed them wherever we happened to be when they were hungry. Like you, she didn't need the whole rigmarole Blushes described.

Southron women must be doing it differently, because apparently its such a hugely distracting process there that it causes the mother, and seemingly all those within 50' of her to lose the ability to think and hear, or be aware of anything else. Wouldn't surprise me though, the Southrons are a strange people with some very bizarre habits.


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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 7:58:25 PM   
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Firstly, it'd be a shame that a young man was so cloistered that he couldn't cope with someone quietly breastfeeding. I'd consider that a failing on whoever raised him. What on earth would he do if someone threw up? What if, what if, what if?


Well,  everyone throws up at one time or another. Not everyone whips out a tit in a public place. You don't know what his upbringing was. He looked about 18 and like he'd never seen a tit before at all, let alone with a kid attached to it. The point is -- why subject someone with potentially different sensibilities to that at all?

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Mmmmhmmm, like breastfeeding her child.


Yes.....at HOME where it's safe.

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There will always be inconsiderate people. Breast feeding isn't inconveniencing anyone at all. It's a quiet, discreet mundane affair.


And it does nothing but create a pair of willing victims for any nefarious person in the area. Kinda hard to defend oneself with a kid attached to your tit. Might not have that problem at home.

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That's all a matter of reasonable consideration. People with AND without children do inhabit the same venues at times, some are considerate of others, some aren't. That's a fact of life.

Now, what has that to do with breastfeeding?


Because it's just one more example of a group of people that expect the world to bend around them and their kid. They're no different than the mom who takes and then lets her kid scream in a movie theater. It all starts with breast feeding. If they don't have the decorum to not do that in public, anything is fair game. And when anything to them is fair game, I can't go to the movies or out to eat without dealing with other people's screaming children.

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RE: Breastfeeding In Court? - 11/16/2011 8:01:03 PM   
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having been someone who has been at court for drug related charges, yeah..I was in the hallways prior to my apearance after bail.

I do not think I was the only person in that situation. I also do not think that my relatively minor drug charge was an exception.

someone who has been indicted and imprisoned wont be in the halls. Someone who has been indicted and let out on bail (pending a conviction) might very well be in the hallways.


Key words there -- "Pending conviction." If you or they are "pending conviction" I highly doubt you or they would run around the courthouse hallways murdering and raping willy nilly. Thus, the hallway is just as safe a place to breastfeed as the courtroom itself.

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