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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

OK this is not a snipe. It's easy to point the finger at our own national corporations irrespective of nationality but think this through. Look at your cars are they made in your country, what about the cooker, the dishwasher, the TV, the HiFi, your mobile phone,. How can the corporations thrive when WE buy Japanese, German, Korean?


Corporations trive because they are multi-national. It makes little difference if you buy japanese,german,korean or what ever. Mercedes at one time owned chrysler. Ford may still own jaguar it is difficult to keep track without a stock ticker going all the time.

We are as responsible for our industries decline no matter if we are citizens of the U.S or Britain.

I would disagree...the corporations take production where they can get the cheapest labor and lowest taxes comensurate with kick backs and bribes.

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

 
......Supplication is easy: just open your mouth and wait for it to be filled.......... 

Link:  http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47535

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ORIGINAL: gman992

Yes...just look at all the over weight people...we've worked hard at creating are own little version's of paradise and then we regal in it...

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ORIGINAL: gman992

Yes...just look at all the over weight people...we've worked hard at creating are own little version's of paradise and then we regal in it...

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

OK this is not a snipe. It's easy to point the finger at our own national corporations irrespective of nationality but think this through. Look at your cars are they made in your country, what about the cooker, the dishwasher, the TV, the HiFi, your mobile phone,. How can the corporations thrive when WE buy Japanese, German, Korean?
We are as responsible for our industries decline no matter if we are citizens of the U.S or Britain.

And how many corporations that are US only companies, meaning all parts are made and assembled in the US, are selling those items? Not many.

http://news.consumerreports.org/appliances/2011/04/which-appliances-are-made-in-the-usa.html

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ORIGINAL: hlen5

Is govt. itself using that thought to placate the masses and suck up the cream?

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

Tazzy the point is sound, we can't bitch if the car we drive was made in Korea, better it be made in Detroit using Mexican sub assembled kit or Birmingham using Korean subs.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

OK this is not a snipe. It's easy to point the finger at our own national corporations irrespective of nationality but think this through. Look at your cars are they made in your country, what about the cooker, the dishwasher, the TV, the HiFi, your mobile phone,. How can the corporations thrive when WE buy Japanese, German, Korean?
We are as responsible for our industries decline no matter if we are citizens of the U.S or Britain.

And how many corporations that are US only companies, meaning all parts are made and assembled in the US, are selling those items? Not many.

http://news.consumerreports.org/appliances/2011/04/which-appliances-are-made-in-the-usa.html

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better it be made in Detroit using Mexican sub assembled kit or Birmingham using Korean subs.

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better it be made in Detroit using Mexican sub assembled kit or Birmingham using Korean subs.

Why is that better? Because part of it is assembled here and part there? I dont allow that kind of excuse. And there are ways around the "Made in the USA" label... almost to the point that you cant tell anymore.

I knew Maytag is still an american made company... didnt know that Frigidaire isnt, nor is Kenmore.. Point is, the low cost items, that most americans can afford, are foreign made... in part if not in total.

Maybe if corporations werent so worried about bonuses to the top excutives and investors, instead were more worried about the bottom line, this wouldnt have happened

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

 
Best response to the question...

We have a lazy and incompetent government.  The belief that piles of taxpayer money can solve any problem, by purchasing a first-class bureaucracy to generate a blizzard of official paperwork, is inherently lazy.

If that is what the government did then we could discuss that but it is not, so consequently it is irrelevent.
Tax payers money has gone to solve many problems that were not being solved by private enterprise.
Purchase of louisana and alaska.
Soo locks/st lawrence seaway
Trans continental railroad.
Tva.
Interstate highway system.
abolition of slavery.



  The childish belief that America is pockmarked with problems only government can address, and only spending from Washington counts as “caring” about an issue, is the laziest belief a person could possibly have.

Which problems that the government is now addressing have been addressed by private entrprise?

  Supplication is easy: just open your mouth and wait for it to be filled.
 
Obamanomics is based on the ironclad belief that government knows best

If you hire the best you will get the best otherwise ...


, and has a sacred responsibility to strike down incorrect judgments from the free market.

The constitution pretty much demands that. The free market demanded more slaves and the government saw thaat as a incorrect judgement.


  Of course someone who thinks that way won’t be much of a “cheerleader” for the economic liberty his hapless people cannot be entrusted with.

Economic liberty is granted to corporations but not to individuals, why?

  On the other hand, someone who holds the health opposite of Obama’s beliefs can’t help but have stars in their eyes when they look upon their marvelous nation.


Not sure what this sentence fragment means. Can you translate it?
 
It will be great to shove Obama and his government out of the way next year, and teach him just how wrong he is about the United States of America.


What specifically do you think he is wrong about? 
 
Link:  http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47535

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero
OK this is not a snipe. It's easy to point the finger at our own national corporations irrespective of nationality but think this through. Look at your cars are they made in your country, what about the cooker, the dishwasher, the TV, the HiFi, your mobile phone,. How can the corporations thrive when WE buy Japanese, German, Korean?
We are as responsible for our industries decline no matter if we are citizens of the U.S or Britain.

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

I got told that there is a new bridge inSan Francisco built by China using Chinese Steel is this true?

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

I got told that there is a new bridge inSan Francisco built by China using Chinese Steel is this true?

yup, i guess so...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/business/global/26bridge.html?pagewanted=all

ya know.. they do build housing as well.. guess thats the next thing, huh?

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

I got told that there is a new bridge inSan Francisco built by China using Chinese Steel is this true?

yup, i guess so...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/business/global/26bridge.html?pagewanted=all

ya know.. they do build housing as well.. guess thats the next thing, huh?

This from your cite:

note that with the full financial force of the Chinese government behind its infrastructure companies, the monumental scale of the work, and the prices bid, are hard for private industry elsewhere to beat.



Zhenhua put 3,000 employees to work on the project: steel-cutters, welders, polishers and engineers. The company built the main bridge tower, which was shipped in mid-2009, and a total of 28 bridge decks — the massive triangular steel structures that will serve as the roadway platform.

Pan Zhongwang, a 55-year-old steel polisher, is a typical Zhenhua worker. He arrives at 7 a.m. and leaves at 11 p.m., often working seven days a week. He lives in a company dorm and earns about $12 a day.

It is pretty difficult for private enterprise to compete with a state subsidized enterprise.
It is pretty difficult for private enterprise to compete with 16 hour days at 12 dollars a day.
I remain unconvinced that this is an indication that anyone is lazy but rather that flour and american bridge enjoy the advantage of state supported slavery.