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RE: SM Publisher - 11/19/2011 1:51:37 PM

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I do not expect others to understand nuances, history, details, persona, interactions of Goddess or myself. As such i do not expect Her word "TEST' to resonate with others in not knowing Her style, intricacies, etc. For myself that word speaks volumes. It means i am with a set task ahead of me that must and shall fulfill.

For most the term "test" is something given that one will pass or fail. Everyone is telling you that this "test"s is not something you can pass. We've talk a bit, so I know you don't take my statements as an intention effort to demean or insult you. But really DaS, you can NOT pass this test. You do carpentry work, right? This "test" would be like her asking you to perform open heart surgery.

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The journal is not ready for publication in that it is a true accounting and has not yet reached the anticipated climax and conclusion. Yet in knowing journal is not ready(unless Goddess is with plans to fast track events) She has given me a publishing task.

Look at the sentence that I bolded above. Why did you write it in that manner? Is that how you speak? Most people would have said something more like "unless Goddess decides or plans on fast tracking events." So now ask yourself why you wrote it the way you did.

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First portion is determining publishing options, cost options, edit already complete stories.

Obviously your goddess has made some determinations and discoveries in this area, since she has already made a budget for publishing. Has she shared this information with you? Based on all of your posts in this thread, it appears that she hasn't. Why cause you to re-do work she has already done? It is a waste of everyone's time.

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Stories written and submitted by others where English obviously is not a first language. To edit such i assumed the editing task to be easy. I have since discovered my editing skills are nil and i am little more than a spell checker and taking a translated text and creating so it reads more naturally.

If she is relying on your skills to take something and translate it to English so it "reads more naturally," I can honestly say I don't know which of you is more deluded on this issue, you or her. You admit that you really didn't think your writing skills were that bad. You have been told, and shown, multiple times here on this thread that they are and why they are. Your goddess has all these Live Journal posts of yours. Are they written like this? Does she believe that you write well? Is English HER first language? Honestly, your writing skills are really bad. Your spelling is fine, although you make some typos, however, your usage is really, really horrible. Your repetitive nature makes it IMPOSSIBLE for you to be able to improve the "flow" of any story. That isn't me being mean, that is me (and others) telling you the cold hard truth.

Which brings us back to why so many are questioning your "goddess." No good dominant is going to set someone up to fail or give them tasks that they aren't remotely equipped to achieve.

So yea, I have to ask, just so I can try and grasp what is going on here.

How old is your "goddess?"
Is English HER first language?
Have you met her in person or has all this happened onlline?
What was it that made the two of you start discussing a "book" with your Live Journal entries?

Stella's comment here is something with more value than I think you are able to contemplate:

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This domme seems to have very little in the way of anything which would merit any sort of successful career as a writer or editor - not much in the way of creativity, nor follow up on her ideas, or indeed that much effort.

There is having a D/s type of relationship, but this is having you make contacts with real world publishers and "pitch" this anthology and the Live Journal book, and the purpose seems to be so they can humiliate you by telling you that the stories are horrible, with no flow, bad grammar and just poor quality. If it isn't, then she is really just sitting back hoping that somehow you manage to pull something off so she can sit back and profit. Profit off of another person's work, both your grunt work and the other people's stories doesn't make her look like a "goddess" to us. It makes her look like someone who will do whatever she can to take credit for other people's work.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/19/2011 1:54:56 PM

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Meh, don't be discouraged, just face up to what would be a realistic expectation from the project and what could be a mere delusion, and put in the thought and work. Breaking it down into weekly timeline/goals really helps.

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In your shoes right now, what I would do is focus on researching publishing methods and specific publishers first. Make a few lists to determine what publisher options are available to you in terms of cost and what they offer (whether they'll do print-on-demand or just sell you 2000 copies of your own book, whether they provide marketing etc), and in terms of their reputation as a publisher, paying attention to the kinds and success of those books. Once you have your pick of the top, say, 10 choices, read as much as you can of the stuff they have published (there are usually free excerpts either on their website or elsewhere online), this will give you an idea of how to format and organise your manuscript to the publisher's preferences, which should help you edit the manuscript.

Some vanity presses will simply accept your manuscript and throw it in print, others have their own in-house editor whose services may or may not need to be bought. If you find yourself stuck, approach them or seek out an appropriately experienced free-lance writer for help.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/19/2011 5:10:45 PM

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Actually True risktaker9 and i do not take offence and appreciate your open honesty. Even Goddess has conveyed i write 'Romans'... Her way to state i at times am too verbose... too long, too boring. I do not mind criticism when it is honest, sincere and well intended. Too often online i see sarcasm and empty judgments. That i neither respect nor partake of. Thus far i have only experienced one incident of such(in a different thread) which surprises me. Well intended honesty without sarcasm causes one to reflect... or it should. Since posting i have found myself doing much reflecting. Some comments were stinging and eye opening but the context they were delivered in made so i have little choice but to absorb and accept.

In truth, because it is honest, constructive criticism, what you and others have done is give me awareness and a reality check. Confess not exactly a pleasant feeling, but to accept such makes so i shall strive for improvement. It has been a humbling experience but to feel everyone has been well intentioned makes so i view it as a positive and hope to learn and grow from it.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/19/2011 5:21:30 PM

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Disappointed yes, but no offence taken. You are a honest, open, straight shooter and i very much appreciate such trait. It seems a rare commodity and if one can give as well as accept then such trait is to be cherished and respected.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/19/2011 5:32:08 PM

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You seem like a likable and well intentioned person. It's noteworthy how you've taken criticism in this thread as a means of self-betterment. As you say....people aren't intentionally being mean, but it's still hard to hear negative things. Looking into the mirror that others hold up is not within most people's capabilities. For proof of that look on other threads for the attacks that happen when people don't like hearing the truth.

So I'd like to suggest a couple of things. First of all, I hate your username, it's not reflective of who you are, you are more dignified than that name. Please consider changing it. Secondly, you have a great capacity to work and to endure and just keep slugging away at things. I wonder if that's not letting people take advantage of you. You may want to think that your capacity for entrenching yourself in situations may not always be doing you a favor. It's ok to stop working on something that isn't working for you anymore.

I did take a college English composition class as a prerequisite for a program that I'm currently enrolled in and it was enlightening. You'll enjoy it, you have a love for the subject. I learned so much on how to improve my writing. Look at your local community college, there will be night and weekend classes as well if you have day work hours. Use ratemyprofessors.com to look up the teachers that are listed in the catalog as teaching the class that you want, so you don't waste time getting a bad one. It's a great way to test drive a teacher without having taking the class and regretting it later. Good luck with things.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/19/2011 5:52:43 PM

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Gawd Alecta i do appreciate your positive outlook... perchance even to need it! Such brutal honesty by posters has so i feel battered in some aspects but also to acknowledge it is sincere and deserving. Crazy perhaps but i am thankful for such and thus far with appreciative respect for everyone who has responded.

A few days ago i thought i was with realistic expectation but now understand i was with naive delusion. That does not make so i quit or falter, it simply makes so i must be more realistic. Original expectations have obviously changed and i now focus on options. I say that but in honesty i have also found myself sidetracked. As such your post is much more important and helpful to me than you perhaps realize. Thank you!

I began with research of publishers and methods but became busy and sidetracked. As such i have the past two days not focused on that aspect as important as it is. In addition the wealth of resources i thus far researched has me with curiosities and questions i have not yet broken down. As new territory that i perceived as simple and basic has in some aspects become overwhelming. You are correct, i must separate and break it down.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/19/2011 6:27:26 PM

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I did take a college English composition class as a prerequisite for a program that I'm currently enrolled in and it was enlightening. You'll enjoy it, you have a love for the subject. I learned so much on how to improve my writing. Look at your local community college, there will be night and weekend classes as well if you have day work hours. Use ratemyprofessors.com to look up the teachers that are listed in the catalog as teaching the class that you want, so you don't waste time getting a bad one. It's a great way to test drive a teacher without having taking the class and regretting it later. Good luck with things.

lizi, the OP is not ready for Comp I yet. He needs a Basic Skills class to teach him sentence structure and grammar first. You are in the US, you probably had to take the basic skills test to get into Comp I and passed.

DaS, the reason that Stella (and others) are saying your goddess doesn't grasp the concept is because you keep saying you speak to her about the advice you have gotten here, and she is still insistent that you find a publisher and edit. As I said, setting someone up to fail is never a good thing. If she doesn't understand that this is beyond your skills, then she is ignoring what you are telling her. If she does understand it and continues to press you forward without guiding you to the way you can become successful, she is derelict in her duties as a dominant. That is why I asked the questions I did earlier. People aren't judging your goddess, they are trying to ascertain the thought process behind this. If she is still saying making money is the goal when a bunch of people on a web site that caters to various kinks are telling you it isn't anything they would ever read, where IS your market? It leaves us feeling that her continuing to order you to do this is unwarranted or she really doesn't understand. Do you follow what I am saying?

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/19/2011 6:55:59 PM

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Lizi i confess the criticisms have not been easy on me. It has taken its toll but i have no regret as it is all sincere and well intended. I truly hate judgmental sarcasm and am with less than zero respect for it. I can be as sarcastic as the best of them but take no pleasure in it as it inevitably does more harm than good. Also i see it as a weakness and not a strength unless done subliminally and cleverly. With my postings on CM i have only had one reply that briefly crossed that line and so i do feel blessed. To encounter it i chose to ignore it. I know myself, my character, my persona. I am confident and proud of such and am without need to justify to others. If i have a fault or weakness i am made aware of i shall acknowledge and try to improve upon it. At end of the day it is myself and my conscience i must answer to, not the uninformed judgments of others. I strongly believe respect given is in turn deserving.

With user name i have received similar feedback from others. I realize it is one dimensional and not reflective of my true persona. It is a name given by Goddess that more or less stuck. To become familiar and comfortable with it, i had not given thought to changing it. Ironic as Goddess now has me with a new name. That however will also change as time marches on.

Admittedly i have taken a few sloggings on this thread but do not see any as taking advantage of me although one is becoming repetitive. If it is factual and sincere i am acceptive of it.

Ironic. I was considering taking a French language course but now see a English writing course is more important.

I do appreciate your insight and kind words... and your timing is perfect :-)

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/20/2011 3:39:05 AM

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Lafayette Lady i came here to seek assistance with a assigned task pertaining to publishing. To that end i have received excellent resource venues and much helpful advice. The generosity of everyone has me with more options and deeper insight than anticipated. That is awesome :-) Unexpected and not so awesome is the reality check of shortcomings of myself. That also has come forward in generous helpings. In that it has come forth as sincere, honest opinion and without malice makes so i am open and not defencive to it. That it comes from sources more experienced, knowledgeable, skilled than myself makes so i see the truth of it. That Lance gave shining example made so i understand, to see in detail and to take away the cutting edge i at first felt. Original belief in my editing ability is no longer in the clouds and is now rooted in reality. Although a bubble-buster such awareness is good and i am appreciative. To become aware just how lacking my literary skills are makes so i desire and must improve upon it. It makes so Goddess and i must find ways around it. It makes so i will do the grunt work to best of my ability and present it to Goddess. In doing my best, regardless how obvious my newly discovered shortcomings She will have option to seek other resources to improve upon it. Such creates more work for myself, work that i now realize is redundant. It also makes me appreciative Goddess does not yank it away or to cancel task and convey i am a failure... that She would not do verbally, but She understands it is exact what i would interpret. I want to do this for Her and now discover i am incapable. She has not cut off my fingers nor to trash my pride nor to stop the project. I am appreciative of that. She allows me opportunity to feel useful, learn and improve. Thank You Goddess! Task and project continue forth and obviously with change of perceptions.

Taking a writing course with basic fundamentals and moving up is obviously required, however does not fit in the time frame of first part of task. As such i will continue to work on it and complete first portion as instructed. When completed to best of my ability Goddess will do with it as She pleases.

I am not here to publicly explain nor defend the merits of Goddess. I am here seeking resources, input and advice to my original request. In being open i ventured off this path slightly in giving some explanation. That has only served to open wider a door which does not pertain to my purpose at hand. In doing so i risk losing original focus and purpose in veering to sating judgments and curiosities of a few. I understand it is well intentioned but i really am with no interest in going perpendicular to my intended goal... nor to see the purpose of it. I am not here to have the intent of my words, my thoughts to be micro analyzed by others more literally skilled than myself and thus forced to curtail my openness and to convey myself defensively in anticipation of incoming fire. I do not wish to be drawn into defending and justifying to a public global community. I am seeking assistance and advice, that is my goal in anticipation of a greater goal. If people here can guide and assist me, and everyone who has responded has, i am very much appreciative.

In answer to your assumption, i am not a carpenter but i do enjoy working with my hands and with a number of skills and tools pertaining to the trades. In younger years on payday i would religiously peruse the Canadian Tire flyer and purchase tools. My fetish is legs, thighs, nylons, garters, high heels, boots and all things related. Back then it was tools :-)

This thread has so i am with a awareness i certainly did not have previously. To become aware of the challenges and my shortcomings is to find ways to overcome such and readjust goals and expectations. Trust me, with the reality check and bruising's i have received the delusions i had are gone. What i had naively believed was a easy task in fact is not. In progressing i ask myself what further humiliation and ego busting can remain beyond what i have endured here already! Very little i believe. Thus not only have i received input, options, advice towards my goal, i am aware of a insurmountable skill shortcoming that in pursuing forward we must find a way around. The solution for such i leave to Goddess.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/20/2011 7:00:34 PM

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It's not me, but still.... a success story :-)

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/good-news/unknown-self-published-author-makes-one-millionth-kindle-212814576.html

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/20/2011 8:00:39 PM

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Well, I'll say this for you DaS, you don't lack optimism, that's for damn sure.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/21/2011 3:50:48 AM

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LOL Thank You :-)

This thread resulted so i have learned much the past few days about the task at hand and about myself. I've received excellent insight, leads and options. I've received personal assessment that has been ego busting, forthright and sincere. Addressing these issues shall increase chance of success.

Goddess remains to want Her book. I am also with personal desire of such. With a task to fulfill, forward is the only option. Seems optimism, determination and devotion are all i have going from me.... hopefully also continued input and advice via collarme community :-)

In having derived greater awareness the goal remains. With a new perspective the path in getting there has now slightly changed. Another aspect with intent to change is my writing style. To shorten and be less repetitive i can do immediate, the remainder shall be a much slower transition.

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