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ORIGINAL: kdsub
I thought the movement was supposed to be apolitical ..at least in reference to party. And open to all ideals that share the wealth. Why start talking about republicans and tea party members as being limited to what you think relevant to the movement? Who the hell are you?
Butch
I think it is a recognition, as I said above, that the only way OWS will ever have any meaningful impact is to align itself with one of the two parties. Since they fancy themselves 21st century hippies, that naturally will be the Democrat party, The few ideals they profess are actually better aligned with conservatism, but the results they actually want are socialist. Its difficult to talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.
Why do they have to a-line themselves with anyone? Is Democracy the same as a dictatorship or a totalitarian regime? Just because you have no idea nor consider it meaningless does not mean its useless. It just says you are of limited thought, reason, wisdom and mind. You pity the whole of OWS because you feel they need to focus on two or three 'topics for action'. Only a hardcore conservative would come to that conclusion....and here's why.
When conservative-minded folks get together regarding an issue they immediately decided on two or three concepts of 'dealing with the issue'. These, 'solutions', may or may not work. If they dont work, the conservatives will be extremely reluctant to both admit they were wrong and switch gears towards a fourth option. They would race the train right off the broken bridge, rather than stop and admit the bridge is broken. It really is hard to sell a conservative on a new concept once their mind is made up 'for better or worst'. Unquestionable fanatism follows in their thinking, even if the path's end is self-destructive. As such, the uneducated often forge down this route largely for lack of 'critical thinking skills'.
Liberals are thinkers. They love problems that might involve solving in unconviental ways. A concept that has served the USA well for 100+ years. Sure, some problems are solved with conventional solutions...but where is the fun and challenge in that? Its not unheard of for liberals to create dozens if not more possible solutions to a problem. Tailoring the solution they believe will be the best fit to the problem (and hopefully keep it from being one in the future).
Needlessly to say, Liberals find Conservatives nearly dogmatic, easily 'figured out' and dull on solutions. Conservatives find Liberals to 'wishy-washy', unfocussed, and not dealing with the problem by agreeing with them without thought or consideration (aka fanatical loyalty). Some how in years past, these two groups could find common ground on things, and show a 'gentleman's agreement' to comprising....and the nation progressed. Now, that doesnt work, and presents a problem. The Tea Party believes the problem requires re-writting the US Constitution to their whims (and Liberals will just 'go along with it' without question). The OWS has work groups that discuss in-depth one of many issues before bring it to the General Assembly to discussion openly.
The whole concept of OWS is wholely beyond your ability to reason, willbeurdaddy (that is what your problem really is with the OWS). I doubt I can even explain it to someone that is so closed minded to how liberals think on things. Because of your reasoning, you fear the OWS. An as a conservative, you must destroy that which you dont understand, least you be forced to actually LEARN TO THINK FOR YOURSELF!
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