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genvieve -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (5/28/2006 2:48:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei I just sent some advice to a young girl, who called her self a slave, about an inappropriate statement that she had put in her profile. This statement was in effect an order, not a request, to Dominants reading this supposed submissives profile. Her response makes me wonder if what we do is becoming to popular and attracting the wrong people, or if better communication is required to get over the fundamentals of what we do. Bugei Master of slave o^^ i think that W/we can attribute this to the media. The only context through which M/s and BDSM are shown in the media, is in a sexual manner. Most of the time, it is only mentioned to ridicule the lifestyle. As a result, i believe that a lot of neophites are kinky, and not necessarily Dominant or submissive. It is O/our responsibility as a community to help guide them to what the lifestyle is actually about...and to advise them that they may or may not be Dominant or submissive, but actually kinky...and that's ok! -genvieve

ElizabethDVall -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (5/28/2006 3:08:39 PM)
Good point well said Genvieve. o^^ / Elizabeth

genvieve -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (5/28/2006 4:39:25 PM)
Thank you, Elizabeth.

Lashra -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (5/28/2006 5:29:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darq What bothers me the most are the dominants who collar the REALLY young, barely legal submissives and then try to say how somehow what they're doing is different than what predators do; that they collared her in order to mentor her and then they fell in love and well, sex is just natural. I'm sorry but I don't buy it. I've learned more from the people who haven't been interested in me sexually than from those who have. The dominants who accepted my offering of sex at that time reaffirmed my belief that in order to be listened to, accepted and allowed to explore who I was, I had to give myself out like candy. If you ask me, the more responsible and yes, more dominant thing to do would have been to have said, no when I offered sex. Chances are, you'd have been offered again later on and after I'd learned what BDSM really was and a little more about who I was, it would have been a healthier decision for me. Theres one dominant in particular I know who brags about his relationship with a much younger girl. She's technically of legal age ... But still ... It makes my heart hurt when he talks about her. I'm sure he cares for her a great deal but does he realize what he's taking away from her? Does he even care or does he convince himself that what they're doing is "ok" because he's "not a predator" ... Its ok that he's twice her age, lives far away from her and only gets to see her once or twice a year and took her virginity because he's "not a predator" ... Its ok that she doesn't date guys her own age or do stuff nilla girls her age do because instead she's hanging out with him online because he's "not a predator" ... Is he a predator? Good question ... I guess you should ask yourself, how would you feel if a guy in his 30's was deflowering your 15 - 16 yr old daughter while spanking her ass and having her call him Daddy? How would you feel if you knew that even now he's telling her how he's going to have her in the ass for the first time the next time they get together? Would you consider that man a predator? Chances are, her parents don't know. My mother didn't know ... My mother was just grateful that I wasn't out doing drugs and getting pregnant. As the mother of a 15 year old girl I can honestly say I'd find this guy and he and I would have a nice long chat, particulary since she is 15 and would be under the age of consent in the state that I live in. After I was done with him, what was left of him the cops could figure out what do to do with. Yes they are predators, I don't give a shit what they say or claim. a 15 year old is a child and so is a 16 year old, I don't care what anyone says. I know lots of 15-16 year olds and I dont know a single one who could support a baby if she got pregnant. If you can't support a baby you have no business going thru the motions. That's what I've told my child, unless your prepared for motherhood don't have sex because accidents do happen. Just my two cents.. ~Lashra

marieToo -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (5/29/2006 8:02:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OhBeMyMind Seems strange to expect something out of someone that you do not know or more importantly do not own, yet not expect it out of someone that you do. Like the saying I stated earlier: Practice what you preach. Amen to that!

Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/1/2006 11:20:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei May have been a rant : but a very valuable one Not really. Just a guy who seems to think his orientation allows him to tell others how to act. Years ago, we called it Top's Disease. But doesn't that apply to any true, lifestyle dominant male? Who but a wimp would let a woman chide or scold him in such a vulgar manner? In years gone by, the criminal penalty for a woman using bad language in public or to a man was to be locked for hours or even days in a scolds' brank; the spiked metal tongue-piece would still her wagging tongue and she would learn some manners. She would probably also be flogged in public or round the walls of the town. We have truly lost a great deal of value from western culture to the creeping cancer of feminism.

Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/1/2006 11:33:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei Her response :- i ,ll give you some advise,fuck off and mind your own. Her language was unpleasant and disrespectful; your comment which you thought was helpful did not deserve that response. In my home country, she could be flogged in public for using such language and an older punishment since forbidden under Sharia law would be to make her eat camel droppings. quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei The wrong people:- Not for me to judge, it was a question put to the group. I have another question to put to the group: would one of the "right" people have openly posted in a public discussion forum a quotation from the woman's profile so that she could be identified and judged by others?

Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/1/2006 11:47:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vancouver_cinful quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren Too bad you can't give her name here. I think there are a number of us who would like to congratulate her on her strength and her awareness of reality. Yup, sounds like the girl knows what she wants and knows she has the right to ask for it. Good on her. But is that not truly what has gone wrong with western society? You have liberals like President Bush apppointing women to positions of power who then start telling men what to do. The whole of the crisis with Iran is the result of this but a man could have stopped it at once by telling Iran to dismantle their facilities or they would be destroyed. Women may think that they know what they want but they also think they have the right to change their minds as often as the goat chews its cud. That is why men have the duty to instruct and to guide them in the paths of righteousness.

Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/1/2006 11:58:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElizabethDVall LaTigresse, You didn't actualy see the emails, as Bugei's slave, and as a submissive, it would have been a pleasure to recieve an email such as that. Her coming back with a rude responce was not of his making. He owes her nothing, he never suggested he was her Master, nor any intention of it, he never gave her orders, and all he offered was a helpful piece of advice that ok, might have got her goat, but certainly had no cause for her to respond in the way she did. I agree about the language which has become all too commonplace in the chav generatioon of western society. When underlings ceased to have proper respect for their elders and betters, society started to fall apart and the liberal social policies of Bush will only accellerate that decline in moral values. But it would be quite wrong for anyone to get someone else's goat. Goat rustling is a serious offence against the law and against Allah but. as Allah is ever merciful, the penalty is mild for a first offence. The culprit is even allowed to keep his other hand!

BitaTruble -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 12:10:02 AM)
::chuckles:: This is better than Saturday night Live. Celeste

Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 12:11:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei Read one more line and you will see the point:- or if better communication is required to get over the fundamentals of what we do. Was there anything imprecise or which you did not understand in her profile or in her response to you? To me, her forthright reply would suggest that she was in need of a spiritual or social mentor as she plainly does not know (as so many young people in western society do not know) her proper place in society and how to address their elders and betters. But she would not accept any guidance from you or probably from anyone until she has resolved the issue of whether she is truly submissive, likes to take the submissive role at times or suffers from the common delusion that she is somehow dominant.

ElectraGlide -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 12:18:42 AM)
Just hope a rock star or a popular movie does not make BDSM a fad. Then you will have large number of bandwagon jumpers climbing aboard, because most people can not think for themselves, they have to do what every body else is doing. Then when the fad is over all the bandwagon jumpers will abandon the lifestyle and be on the next fad. In all forms of my personel and work life I see very few people that are individuals. I admire someone that goes against the grain risking what the common Albert Anusteins will think of them.

Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 12:23:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei elizabeth comment would have been taken exactly as she had intended it on a UK forum (please do not pick up on the obvious double meaning) It is not clever to give negative connotations to every statement. She has been known to "brat" (<- a humerus comment) and at times she is inclined to go to war on my behalf, much to my displeasure,(who said a D/s relationship was easy?) That is easy to prevent, if not to remedy. Simply cuff her wrists to her waist or behind her back. She might find it less easy to use a keyboard like that. Have you never needed to hobble a camel? In time, they will come to love you for it.

marieToo -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 3:55:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sheikh quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei May have been a rant : but a very valuable one Not really. Just a guy who seems to think his orientation allows him to tell others how to act. Years ago, we called it Top's Disease. But doesn't that apply to any true, lifestyle dominant male? Who but a wimp would let a woman chide or scold him in such a vulgar manner? What choice would he have? Thankfully women are no longer treated as lesser cititzens in this country as they were years ago. And thankfully in American we dont punish people in barbaric ways for using foul language. If a man, or anyone else for that matter, opens up a letter to a stranger critisizing him or her for their personal feelings written on their own personal webspace, he has to be willing to deal with the possible response.

Sheikh -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 4:31:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo quote: ORIGINAL: Sheikh quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei May have been a rant : but a very valuable one Not really. Just a guy who seems to think his orientation allows him to tell others how to act. Years ago, we called it Top's Disease. But doesn't that apply to any true, lifestyle dominant male? Who but a wimp would let a woman chide or scold him in such a vulgar manner? What choice would he have? Thankfully women are no longer treated as lesser cititzens in this country as they were years ago. And thankfully in American we dont punish people in barbaric ways for using foul language. And look where that has got (or gotten) you: reviled and despised among the nations, America has vastly increased the risks of terrorist attacks in tourist centres (centers) across the world. Recruitment for terrorist organisations has hardly been higher and the prospect of peace in Palestine seems as elusive as ever. This is not entirely due to the feminist and liberal wimp Bush having appointed Ms Rice to the post she now holds but much of it is; like most women in any position of power, she talks tough but acts soft. Women are not "lesser citizens" but they are different and the pretence that they are somehow equal to men is one of the fallacies that should have ended with the 20th century. Someone remarked earlier about the wisdom of grandparents. Well, my grandfather believed in the maxim that one should never quite trust "any critter that bleeds for a week and still lives". Whilst I am not sure I would go quite that far, the physiological effects must adversely affect reasoning and judgement to the extent that a woman who lacks the guidance and help of a man is truly to be pitied. It was probably for want of such assistance that the young woman responded to Bugei as she did.

mistoferin -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 4:57:27 AM)
Oh my, does anyone have any ideas what one does for a severed tongue....I think I may have just bitten the end of mine clean off!

OhBeMyMind -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 5:26:50 AM)
You could check with Sheikh on that, as he seems to be the authority on dismemberment. [8D] [sm=biggrin.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin Oh my, does anyone have any ideas what one does for a severed tongue....I think I may have just bitten the end of mine clean off!

feastie -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 5:34:21 AM)
This particular (NEW) account and turn of thread really bears no further comment.

LaTigresse -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 6:11:00 AM)
I just have to wonder what freaky little place this creature is sheikh OF and keep it off my "places to visit in the UK" list. However....it could be a good place for my "snipe hunting" list............... I think "it" has eaten too many camel droppings

bignipples2share -> RE: Is BDSM to popular (6/2/2006 7:07:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster What IS the world coming to? Next thing you know, subs will be ORDERING married doms not to contact them... < laughing and wiping coffee off chin and keyboard>

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