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Hardly, especially when you consider that a bachelors degree in any other field is worth at least $60,000 a year just in salary (not including benefits).

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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I was kind of trying to pull it off of the discussion of the purchase of supplies. I can say, with 100% surety, that teachers in my area are not expected or required to buy authorized supplies without reimbursement. I can say that until I'm blue in the face, though. It really doesn't mean that somebody isn't going to know somebody who didn't get reimbursed. So I was trying to say that, let's just take that out of the equation and say that teachers do have to purchase their own supplies. I still believe they're fairly compensated.

I cant think of another job that requires someone to purchase equipment/supplies that will only be utilized once, can you?

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So....that's why I keep trying to say, let's take that out of the equation and keep it on an even keel for comparison's sake. Let's say that a teacher does have to purchase supplies of $500 a year. If that brings the average salary to $49,500, I still think that's a fair salary. That's all I'm saying.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Im sorry. I see sites indicating areas like NY paying only 300 dollars in reimbursements.

In South Carolina...

Enclosed is the information and procedures relating to the reimbursement for classroom
teachers’ instructional supplies. School year 2010-2011 checks will total $275; this is
unchanged from last year. Your school will receive these checks by August 9; please
distribute them to teachers on their first day back, August 10. This reimbursement is for
classroom teachers, whether full-time status or not, and regardless of their funding
source. Special education teachers (self-contained, resource, and itinerant), child
development and kindergarten teachers, JROTC instructors, librarians/media specialists,
guidance counselors and other professional instructional staff should receive checks.
Principals, assistant principals (unless they are part-time teachers), and classified
employees are not eligible for supply reimbursement checks.

The following page contains procedures for your own use. Please provide the copies of
the second and third attachments, “$275 Reimbursement for Teacher Supplies” and
“Teacher Supply Reimbursement Form”, to each eligible employee when checks are
distributed.

http://www.aiken.k12.sc.us/site/Personnel/bin/SUPPLYREIMBURSEMENTFY10.pdf

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So....that's why I keep trying to say, let's take that out of the equation and keep it on an even keel for comparison's sake. Let's say that a teacher does have to purchase supplies of $500 a year. If that brings the average salary to $49,500, I still think that's a fair salary. That's all I'm saying.

And what I am saying is that I know of no other profession that requires someone to buy items for a one time use out of the employees pockets. I could be wrong.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Out of pocket, even a dollar, for supplies a teacher requires to teach a classroom of students is far too much in my opinion. They have a hard job dealing with kids that dont listen, parents that dont discipline and a school board that is crippling their effectiveness. They now have to be confidant, teacher, and police. They have to look for signs of learning disabilities, abuse, neglect and crimes.

And as a society, we think they make too much?

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Out of pocket, even a dollar, for supplies a teacher requires to teach a classroom of students is far too much in my opinion. They have a hard job dealing with kids that dont listen, parents that dont discipline and a school board that is crippling their effectiveness. They now have to be confidant, teacher, and police. They have to look for signs of learning disabilities, abuse, neglect and crimes.

And as a society, we think they make too much?

Well, I think the general consensus is that teachers don't make enough. I believe I'm in the minority.

I don't see any problem with out-of-pocket expenses that are reimbursed. Why is that an issue? The outlay of expenses up front could be a problem, but a teacher would accept the job knowing this, I would hope.

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I've never seen a teacher who had to buy supplies. Either parents donated them or they did a bake sale/car wash.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Out of pocket, even a dollar, for supplies a teacher requires to teach a classroom of students is far too much in my opinion.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I was referring to those expenses not reimbursed. 275 dollars for a class of 30... not much spent on supplies for all those children.

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Whew. I'm spent. This was a nice enough distraction from the disgusting noises coming from my daughter's bedroom behind me (she's home sick today, which is why I'm home today) but I suppose I can't add anymore here.

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

They stay late to try to help a child who is having troubles learning.  The funds that used to be available to pay them for that extra time have disappeared in the past few years, but I do not know one teacher who has said, "Well, no more funds so I am leaving at 3:00".

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If there was a way to base salary on performance, that would be great, but, what constitutes good performance?  Passing test scores?  That is how they are judged.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Out of pocket, even a dollar, for supplies a teacher requires to teach a classroom of students is far too much in my opinion.

Oh the horror, teachers would have to learn how to read instructions on tax forms, keep records, and fill the tax forms out just like everyone else that has expenses non-reimbursed by the employer!

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I was referring to those expenses not reimbursed. 275 dollars for a class of 30... not much spent on supplies for all those children.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: RakeAndCo

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Out of pocket, even a dollar, for supplies a teacher requires to teach a classroom of students is far too much in my opinion.

Oh the horror, teachers would have to learn how to read instructions on tax forms, keep records, and fill the tax forms out just like everyone else that has expenses non-reimbursed by the employer!

How many expenses do you have that are not reimbursed?

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

I've never seen a teacher who had to buy supplies. Either parents donated them or they did a bake sale/car wash.

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ORIGINAL: RakeAndCo

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Out of pocket, even a dollar, for supplies a teacher requires to teach a classroom of students is far too much in my opinion.

Oh the horror, teachers would have to learn how to read instructions on tax forms, keep records, and fill the tax forms out just like everyone else that has expenses non-reimbursed by the employer!