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Aswad -> RE: 24 Pakistani Soldiers Killed in NATO Attack (11/30/2011 1:42:36 PM)
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
That is what the situation looks like from Norway. It looks precisely the same from here in Australia too.
This is a stupid unwinnable war and the sooner the West gets out, the better off everyone will be
The sick thing is, as stupid as going in was, it's worse to pull out now that we're knee deep in it.
We pull out, they clean house, fight a brief civil war (it'll not be brief for the civilians, but it'll be brief as far as power is concerned), and then they will be stronger than ever. And we won't have a living soul there that doesn't know we're both cowards, unreliable, warmongers, and a host of other things besides. These past few years of building a relationship with the people, getting a manageable government into place, providing the enemy with someone else to shoot at... it will all be wiped clean off the board. And they'll have justifiable cause to retaliate. And eventually, we'll have to go back in. And then we'll be on our own. Bogged down for decades in a war of attirition with an enemy that has nothing to lose, if we're lucky. Talk about foreign debt...
The alternative is to kill everyone there, down to the last child in the most remote village.
Leaving aside the moral issues of perpetrating genocide on that scale (outdoing the Holocaust) and the division it will be creating in the West, it would be impossible to do it without taking out the entire Arab world- the very cradle of life so to speak- erasing all ties to a significant part of our history and evolution. Doing so would require Russian weaponry, as the US army does not have the means to sterilize a subcontinent without permanently destroying the biosphere and ending all human life as we know it. The Russians do possess such weapons, though it is unclear whether they have adequate means of delivering them on such a scale.
Wouldn't that be ironic, given that the whole mess started with the US wanting a dam against the USSR?
Deleting about a century of western history and several millenia of human history for the idiocy of one man, the greed of a few and the emotional spasms of a herd that put them in the position for this to happen. That would be one hell of a testament to leave to our descendants. Perhaps the best argument against having any at the moment. It takes American ambition and egoism to exceed the Jewish Holocaust, the Armenian Holocaust and the Nanking massacre, I guess. Perhaps it'll spark a bit of that old civil war spirit, narrow their gene pool down to humans only.
Ok, that was a bit harsher than is justified. Shit does happen, after all.
But some choose to act responsibly when it's their shit.
Health,
al-Aswad.
P.S.: While we sort out our shit, there's about 4 billion people taking our place at the top of the pyramid, and I doubt they will do much better, at least by the standards of the values we've been touting lately (course, we're eradicating them quite well on our own, so it might not make a difference in anything but living standards).
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