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CaringandReal -> RE: Slaves that work (2/13/2012 3:05:38 PM)

I think it would be very intense and somewhat personally frightening to be a stay-at-home slave. A great many more limitations could be imposed on such a person. A lot more things with mind-control and isolation could be done. Given the sort of person I tend to be drawn toward, these things would be done, too, if I were stay-at-home. I would grow used to it, of course, but initially it is quite sobering to contemplate. I wouldn't hesitate to do it if the person were right for me, although I believe the chances of this (a stay-at-home state) occurring are slim. I have value as a working slave and these are, admittedly, economically difficult times.



Greta75 -> RE: Slaves that work (2/16/2012 7:49:38 AM)

I think sometimes in a d/s relationship, staying at home may be better for harmony, of course depending on dynamics.
I work and my x-dom worked, and when he wanted me to keep the house too, I was often just too exhausted from work and just want a break, and he gets upset with me for not keeping the house the way he wants it.
On top of that, I have my own house to take care of.
It's really hard.
But here is also another view, the reason why stay home moms are viewed..., sometimes... sort of negatively is, regardless whether you are stay home or not, if you had the same amount of kids, going to work, just means, you still have to do EVERYTHING a housewife does, PLUS work. Going to work does not guarantee your man will chip in on household chores or house duties or children duties. Going by that, that's alot tougher.



favesclava -> RE: Slaves that work (2/17/2012 5:48:08 AM)

i work outside the home. i'm not expected to do housework . i can even have others do my laundry if i want it. Master uses His girl hard in bed so i must be rested and ready to please . Master wont demand for me to stay home. He knows the job i have is not just what i do its part of who i am.



txurinal -> RE: Slaves that work (2/19/2012 8:22:44 AM)

When owned, i also held a 40 hour a week job. i did not feel that this made me less of a slave. At all times, i realized that i had 2 owners that i would be going home to each night.

Now my MASTERS were fairly well off and it would not have been difficult for THEM to keep me at home had THEY wanted that but as i was working when i met THEM and started traing to become THEIR slave and to eventually move into THEIR home i honestly never remember the subject of quitting my job come up and i always worked. And when at work, i still considered myself an owned and collared slave.

Now once i moved in, i was expected to contribute to the household with part of my paycheck. i never questioned this as i guess i felt it i were living on my own and paying rent, shopping for food, etc, i would be paying the same amount out anyway



fucktoyprincess -> RE: Slaves that work (2/19/2012 8:42:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Alec49

What is your opinion on a Master requiring a slave to work outside the Household ?
I am finding that a lot of slaves want 24/7 live in but want to be kept.

What is my opinion on this? That people are allowed to have whatever relationship dynamics they want in their own relationship and that it is not for me to judge one way or the other.

If a Master wants a slave to work outside the house, then that is their prerogative, and he/she should find someone who also wants to do that.

IF a slave wants a 24/7 live in situation where their primary work responsibility is maintaining the household, then that is their prerogative, and they can search for a Master who also wants that situation.

In both situations it is up to the two people involved as to how the multitude of household responsibilities will be assigned - they could all be assigned to one person, or shared as they wish.

The above opinions of mine hold whether the household consists of two adults, two adults with children, or multiple adults, or multiple adults with children.

I am not trying to be rude with this response, but is this not an individual choice that we each have? To define what the nature of our relationship dynamic should be, and then search for someone who shares that same viewpoint. Why do you care what any of our opinions are on this? Decide what it is that you want for your life and then fashion your life in a way to enable that, and search for a partner who fits the vision that you have.

And to the extent that one's life is not fashioned to enable what you want, then you either have to change your vision, or search for someone different. And if things change along the way with an existing partner, then, again, adjustments have to be made as you go in a way that makes sense.

I do encourage everyone to please think of contingencies when making such plans for your life. Everyone, male, female, regardless of role does need to consider the following issues (as examples): job loss, lifetime healthcare costs, financial contingencies should the relationship fail, disability of one of the partners, etc. Be smart about how the dynamic you have chosen will take care of these various things. Make sure all contingencies are discussed up front with your partner regardless of what role you are assuming and what dynamic and division of labor you have chosen. And I think relevant considerations would also include the level of education of each person, the earning potential of each partner, and also the ultimate happiness of each partner.

I know what I am seeking in my relationship, and what I have sought in the past. I know what works for me and what doesn't. I search for partners who fit what I know can reasonably work for me. And partners who are not compatible are simply not compatible. That's the way life works sometimes. I don't expect anyone here to necessarily share my viewpoint. But I would hope that people would have the decency to respect my view of how to structure my life. I'm not sure that judging each other's personal arrangements around these issues makes any sense at all. Everyone will do what makes sense to him or her. Running a household involves a number of different tasks, including financial, and how any person, couple, or family, or group choose to divide these tasks is up to them.



subjan1962 -> RE: Slaves that work (2/26/2012 3:26:38 AM)

Master and i do not live together though he stays with me at weekends. i have always had a full time job but feel if we were together 24/7 there would not be enough hours in the day for me to be able to serve Him as i would wish and to work as well.



JeffBC -> RE: Slaves that work (2/26/2012 11:44:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Alec49
What is your opinion on a Master requiring a slave to work outside the Household ? I am finding that a lot of slaves want 24/7 live in but want to be kept.

This question, like every other one, gets a lot simpler when the word "total" is taken seriously. I have the same opinion of controlling her employment as I do everything else... mine. By definition everything is mine, including her career. That's the whole gig with "total".

Like everything else in our marriage, Carol's employment or lack thereof is mine to control and I do so in order to better our marriage in whatever ways I can. Sometimes I have her not working at all so she can focus on art. Then she goes all cabin-feverey so I send her out to a job. Most recently I have her working at a reasonably low stress part time job as an attempted compromise between art, getting out of the house, and money. And yes, at least one function she serves is as an economic resource.

edited to add
Upon reflection it seemed worth pointing out that the gotcha with "total" is the "total responsibility" part. Sure, I make all the decisions. And I'm also the one responsible for our joint economic and emotional health. As I've often noted, for me at least, being totally in charge isn't even remotely the same thing as "always getting what I want"



tj444 -> RE: Slaves that work (2/26/2012 11:54:15 AM)

I am not in a relationship right now but it would be a deal breaker for me if I could not work and earn money and assets in the manner that I like to do. A maid service can be easily hired as i am not a service type sub anyway. I would rather do the more personal things for him and make him extremely happy and happily exhausted in the bedroom.. [8D]



LoreBook -> RE: Slaves that work (2/26/2012 11:55:40 AM)

Well seeing as I can't find anything that pays more than minimum wage, any slave of mine better work or be fond of mac&cheez.



OsideGirl -> RE: Slaves that work (2/26/2012 12:13:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tj444

I am not in a relationship right now but it would be a deal breaker for me if I could not work and earn money and assets in the manner that I like to do. A maid service can be easily hired as i am not a service type sub anyway. I would rather do the more personal things for him and make him extremely happy and happily exhausted in the bedroom.. [8D]


I'm the same way. I don't deal well with being a "stay at home" and cleaning makes me unhappy. I do work from home, but I still work. I have a cleaning woman that comes in twice a month for the big stuff.



whatisthewhat -> RE: Slaves that work (2/26/2012 1:17:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Alec49

What is your opinion on a Master requiring a slave to work outside the Household ?
I am finding that a lot of slaves want 24/7 live in but want to be kept.


I had to laugh when I read this question. Before he and I became a committed, married couple, I would never have dreamed of not working. In fact, I never even considered it. I happen to have a very personally rewarding (but demanding) career; I believe doing what I do for a living makes a positive difference in the world. And my mother always told me to never be financially dependent on another person for my livelihood. So...I certainly wanted to "live in", but I never expected or wanted to be "kept."

Fast forward to a year after moving in together, and I definitely wish I would be ordered to not work outside the household. Granted, I've had 20 yrs in my career so I know what it is to work and be independent, but I also find that, as a highly service oriented s, it interferes with my ability to care for him properly. I would much rather stay at home doing household improvement projects, cooking, cleaning, and learning about plumbing, electrical wiring, and auto mechanics. However, he says, and I believe, that it simply does not make sense to leave after all this time without full and proper retirement benefits. So I guess I'll be working for at least the next decade and learning auto mechanics, etc in my 50s.



liminalRapture -> RE: Slaves that work (2/26/2012 8:21:23 PM)

Most people wouldn't consider me a slave, and part of the reason is I couldn't be submissive if I didn't work. I need to be bossy and in control and have people who follow my directions (although not as well as I'd like). I need to be the wise one who takes control of a situation. And my Dom sees that and likes that, and says "go--conquer the world! Then you can kneel at my feet." And having both sides is so important to me!!!

When I was working as a secretary during grad school, I had very little interest in submitting to anyone else. 8 hours a day of submitting to my boss was quite enough, thank you.



kitkat105 -> RE: Slaves that work (2/26/2012 9:34:58 PM)

Interesting thread. I am unsure, basically I assume it is up to the individuals involved - what both parties want and agree on. Plus, what dynamic they want to lead.

I aspire to a 1950's style household because I enjoy the idea of being that housewife that cooks, cleans, dotes on her husband. I get a tremendous amount of joy from doing the little things for him. But at the same time I love my job (most days) and will continue to work because I want to contribute financially, and need intellectual stimulation (I got that degree for a reason!).

I don't think working would interfere in a M/s or TPE relationship.

That said, the house cleaner will still do the bathrooms. I don't do bathrooms [;)]



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