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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

As for the dog you are fostering and it having health problems, when you become a foster you agree to take care of that dog in all ways, including medical. If you cannot afford to do so then the organization will find someone who can do so. She's probably annoyed that you are calling her with your problems instead of simply taking care of the problems. She gave the dog to you assuming you'd take care of it. If you are going to call her she may as well have kept the dog herself. I know I'd get annoyed if someone was always asking me what to do instead of simply doing it.

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

No, I didn't. But hat happened is that Bones has on going ear flap issues, and he tears at them an causes damage, and he had a boil, that had formed the day I took him home, and I called her and told her that, that evening it had broke open and was bleeding, what do I do for him? She said put neosporin on it d watch it. i said thank you , and we hung up.


4-6 or so hours later I noticed all his toes were very red, and 2 were weeping puss, and I called her and said Hi .... i'm so sorry to call you again, but did you know Bones' toes on all 4 feet are red and 2 are weeping?


Her reply was well why don't you bring him back and we"ll take care of him. I said as in , end our foster agreement? And she said yes, and I said, no no, I don't want to end our foster agreent, I just want to get his issue treated.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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The incidence with her suggesting I return bones and cancel our foster agreement when I called her to let her know and ask did she know bones' toes were weepy and red, doesnt help things.

Did you discuss this in another thread? If so, could you post a link to that?

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d without the "help" of the supervisor, until it came to its natural conclusion. I sucked it up for that year until the child was safe. I recognized what I was doing was critical to the future of this child, no matter how unpleasant this supervisor was. I am satisfied I did my job.

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

No, I didn't. But hat happened is that Bones has on going ear flap issues, and he tears at them an causes damage, and he had a boil, that had formed the day I took him home, and I called her and told her that, that evening it had broke open and was bleeding, what do I do for him? She said put neosporin on it d watch it. i said thank you , and we hung up.


4-6 or so hours later I noticed all his toes were very red, and 2 were weeping puss, and I called her and said Hi .... i'm so sorry to call you again, but did you know Bones' toes on all 4 feet are red and 2 are weeping?


Her reply was well why don't you bring him back and we"ll take care of him. I said as in , end our foster agreement? And she said yes, and I said, no no, I don't want to end our foster agreent, I just want to get his issue treated.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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The incidence with her suggesting I return bones and cancel our foster agreement when I called her to let her know and ask did she know bones' toes were weepy and red, doesnt help things.

Did you discuss this in another thread? If so, could you post a link to that?

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d without the "help" of the supervisor, until it came to its natural conclusion. I sucked it up for that year until the child was safe. I recognized what I was doing was critical to the future of this child, no matter how unpleasant this supervisor was. I am satisfied I did my job.

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls



If, and I don't know if it is, Boney has an aural hematoma (broken blood vessels within the ear that pool blood, it is painful, and easily returns, especially in long-eared dogs, or those prone to ear infections/irritations. Neosporin ointment would not be sufficient. He would need surgery to open and drain it, then receive multiple stitches tacked in to seal the tissues layers of the ear together, so the blood won't pool there. Is the boil near the affected ear? Are the insides of the ear (s) red, infected, sensitive, or smelly? Does he shake his head much, or scratch his ear (s) alot?

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls



If, and I don't know if it is, Boney has an aural hematoma (broken blood vessels within the ear that pool blood, it is painful, and easily returns, especially in long-eared dogs, or those prone to ear infections/irritations. Neosporin ointment would not be sufficient. He would need surgery to open and drain it, then receive multiple stitches tacked in to seal the tissues layers of the ear together, so the blood won't pool there. Is the boil near the affected ear? Are the insides of the ear (s) red, infected, sensitive, or smelly? Does he shake his head much, or scratch his ear (s) alot?

If it happens to be an aural hematoma, get medial leeches on the case, a very effective, non invasive treatment that works amazingly well (got a friend with a Labrador and one with a French Bulldog, and they get aural hematoma often, they had great results plus the leeches seem to stop the problem from reoccurring for a while, while surgery doesn't), the saliva of the medical leeches contains not only a natural anti-inflammatory but also anti-coagulants, which well dissolve the blood pooling and causing the problem. I swear on the little blood suckers, I got a 7 year old Dobie bitch who had such bad arthritis I had to coax her out of the house on rainy days, because she limped badly, we spent thousands on conventional treatment (Cartophen injections, food supplements, you name it) with very limited success, after 2 treatments on the arthritic knee with leeches, she's a changed dog and we have to stop her from taking fences. The only side effect is that after the treatment and a day later, she was super bouncy and hyper, sort of "Oh the coffee table, I jump over it because I can, oh a fence/waste paper basket/chair/hoover - I jump over it BECAUSE I CAN!"
Oh and the leeches including the application by the vet cost a fraction of what we usually spent on Cartrophen shots, not that this was a motivator or reason, more like a nice side benefit. I had a slight problem getting the vet to give it a try as it is not a treatment approved for animals in the UK, so I pointed out that it is approved for humans and thoroughly tested on humans, and unless she can give me a good reason why canine arthritis is different from human arthritis, I would like to have it done to my dog. The vet is now a convert, after she saw the spectacular results and quite a few people we met on dog walks are going in to have their dogs get it.

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I rarely if ever get intimidated by people. I've only met maybe 3 people in my entire life who do. I have however met a lot of people who are just downright lousy people. When I meet such people I just either ignore them if I'm able to...I don't interact with them or I leave the situation where the person is if I can't avoid that. I just don't deal with conflict. I'd rather find someplace where I feel comfortable around others.

If you find this is a reoccurring problem with you though you may want to take a look at yourself and how you come across to people. Re-evaluate your own people skills. Do you come off as shy or unapproachable yourself? Do you come across as way too friendly and touchy/feely? A lot of people don't like that and find it quite annoying.

As for the dog you are fostering and it having health problems, when you become a foster you agree to take care of that dog in all ways, including medical. If you cannot afford to do so then the organization will find someone who can do so. She's probably annoyed that you are calling her with your problems instead of simply taking care of the problems. She gave the dog to you assuming you'd take care of it. If you are going to call her she may as well have kept the dog herself. I know I'd get annoyed if someone was always asking me what to do instead of simply doing it.


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Tfb,

I think the way we perceive other's perceptions of us is often to our detriment.

You are hyper-focusing on the woman because you don't feel at ease with her. The problem with that is when you are around her it is probably all you are seeing. What you aren't seeing is that you are just a small part of things there. She is busy looking after all kinds of things.
Your being nervous the other day was probably responsible for the mistakes you made; I say that because I am the same way: I get nervous and lose my focus on what I am doing and become preoccupied with how I am feeling, and then in my being hyper-focused on that I get more nervous or anxious and then mistakes happen. Once I make a mistake it just gets worse until I can ground myself.

If I might make a suggestion, I think you might focus on the fact that both you and she ARE on the same side. It is true at the shelter and it is true in regards to caring for Bones.

I might also suggest that you initiate a conversation, not about your feelings right now but about the dog you are providing care for.
I think a simple statement that you want to provide the best care for Bones and you know that is her concern as well.

(Perhaps it was getting a call on a weekend night (yes?) that made her wonder if you were up to the task. Weekend night calls should be reserved for emergencies. Weeping toes could probably have waited till the morning unless the dog was running a temp.)

Another thing you can do is learn what you can about basic puppy first aid. How to take a dog's temperature and what a normal temp is. How to clean wounds.
The things you absolutely can't give to a dog.

I am not suggesting you are doing anything wrong, but most of the things we do can be done better and as with anything there is a learning curve to fostering a dog.

You have a therapist, I think?
This is a great issue to work with her on.

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w I am feeling, and then in my being hyper-focused on that I get more nervous or anxious and then mistakes happen. Once I make a mistak

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

If, and I don't know if it is, Boney has an aural hematoma (broken blood vessels within the ear that pool blood, it is painful, and easily returns, especially in long-eared dogs, or those prone to ear infections/irritations. Neosporin ointment would not be sufficient. He would need surgery to open and drain it, then receive multiple stitches tacked in to seal the tissues layers of the ear together, so the blood won't pool there. Is the boil near the affected ear? Are the insides of the ear (s) red, infected, sensitive, or smelly? Does he shake his head much, or scratch his ear (s) alot?

I can't speak to the red, weepy toes or their cause, as they can be many. To what degree does he have it? Does he excessively lick them? Did he arrive with any indications his toes were a problem? Is there something of concern in his environment he's exposed to? Could he have food, etc. allergies? Could he have worms? Does he seem particularly stressed? Do you use products in your home or on your floor/rugs that contain chemical fragrances? You remark about noticing his toes after he was in your home makes me wonder if it might be a food/chemical reaction. What is his diet composed of?


One may attempt to bathe them in a gentle disinfectant like Novalsan (nothing with isopropyl alcohol - rubbing alcohol or anything stingy), dry them well, and try to keep them dry, while discouraging him from licking/chewing on them. Once a bit dried out, an antibiotic cream (not ointment, as it's too greasy and doesn't allow "breathing") may be appropriate if there's any sign/chance of infection. All this may require a plastic Elizabethan Dog Collar to keep him from messing with them, which you should be able to get from the shelter or a vet, or may be significant enough to require proper bandaging (with frequent changing) till they heal.


One might try calling their local vet's office. Most have office managers, techs, etc., that may be willing to field some of your questions and offer light advice until you have the opportunity to get the dog seen and treated. If they think the feet problem might be due to an allergic reaction, they may suggest giving him some sort of antihistimine like Benedryl.

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e you pay to get them food or vet care, they pay for it all. We are told in our foster contract to call ***** if there's a medical concern, and we are not to take the dog to a vet other than the one they use, with out permission. I followed protocol.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

LC,

I'm not sure if medical leeches are used in the US. I'm not questioning their effectiveness, but if such therapies aren't used here, your suggestion is moot.

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls


Lady, I was not familiar with leaches for treating arthritis. What a novel approach. I must research this. Thanks for putting it up.

Can you give me more details on the actual treatment itself, from start to finish?

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Actually, this group doesn't make you pay to get them food or vet care, they pay for it all. We are told in our foster contract to call ***** if there's a medical concern, and we are not to take the dog to a vet other than the one they use, with out permission. I followed protocol.

But thanks for the assumption.

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I rarely if ever get intimidated by people. I've only met maybe 3 people in my entire life who do. I have however met a lot of people who are just downright lousy people. When I meet such people I just either ignore them if I'm able to...I don't interact with them or I leave the situation where the person is if I can't avoid that. I just don't deal with conflict. I'd rather find someplace where I feel comfortable around others.

If you find this is a reoccurring problem with you though you may want to take a look at yourself and how you come across to people. Re-evaluate your own people skills. Do you come off as shy or unapproachable yourself? Do you come across as way too friendly and touchy/feely? A lot of people don't like that and find it quite annoying.

As for the dog you are fostering and it having health problems, when you become a foster you agree to take care of that dog in all ways, including medical. If you cannot afford to do so then the organization will find someone who can do so. She's probably annoyed that you are calling her with your problems instead of simply taking care of the problems. She gave the dog to you assuming you'd take care of it. If you are going to call her she may as well have kept the dog herself. I know I'd get annoyed if someone was always asking me what to do instead of simply doing it.


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Well I am glad that the dog will get the care it requires.

You did not explain the protocol which does leave people to assume otherwise.