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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

you make it sound like I wasn't going to give it the care it needed.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Well I am glad that the dog will get the care it requires.

You did not explain the protocol which does leave people to assume otherwise.

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Yes, it was smack in the center of the ear flap. His ears, the vet said are always going to be smelly. it's an unfortunate side affect of his neglect she said. He does rub his head on stuff a lot, specially when you've cleaned his ears. ever toe on every foot was red. He does like to lick them yes, and I kept him from doing that as best I could. No, I had no idea his toes were red and one was weepy when I took him home. But I assume it's from yeast, and also they do not have a lot to do in their kennel all day long, so he may have spent a lot of time grooming his feet. He eats a food toted be to all natural and holistic, they provide it for him.

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

If, and I don't know if it is, Boney has an aural hematoma (broken blood vessels within the ear that pool blood, it is painful, and easily returns, especially in long-eared dogs, or those prone to ear infections/irritations. Neosporin ointment would not be sufficient. He would need surgery to open and drain it, then receive multiple stitches tacked in to seal the tissues layers of the ear together, so the blood won't pool there. Is the boil near the affected ear? Are the insides of the ear (s) red, infected, sensitive, or smelly? Does he shake his head much, or scratch his ear (s) alot?

I can't speak to the red, weepy toes or their cause, as they can be many. To what degree does he have it? Does he excessively lick them? Did he arrive with any indications his toes were a problem? Is there something of concern in his environment he's exposed to? Could he have food, etc. allergies? Could he have worms? Does he seem particularly stressed? Do you use products in your home or on your floor/rugs that contain chemical fragrances? You remark about noticing his toes after he was in your home makes me wonder if it might be a food/chemical reaction. What is his diet composed of?


One may attempt to bathe them in a gentle disinfectant like Novalsan (nothing with isopropyl alcohol - rubbing alcohol or anything stingy), dry them well, and try to keep them dry, while discouraging him from licking/chewing on them. Once a bit dried out, an antibiotic cream (not ointment, as it's too greasy and doesn't allow "breathing") may be appropriate if there's any sign/chance of infection. All this may require a plastic Elizabethan Dog Collar to keep him from messing with them, which you should be able to get from the shelter or a vet, or may be significant enough to require proper bandaging (with frequent changing) till they heal.


One might try calling their local vet's office. Most have office managers, techs, etc., that may be willing to field some of your questions and offer light advice until you have the opportunity to get the dog seen and treated. If they think the feet problem might be due to an allergic reaction, they may suggest giving him some sort of antihistimine like Benedryl.

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e you pay to get them food or vet care, they pay for it all. We are told in our foster contract to call ***** if there's a medical concern, and we are not to take the dog to a vet other than the one they use, with out permission. I followed protocol.

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

How did the deaf dog group (online, right?) know how to reach the agency from which you fostered the dog?

I'm sorry he's going away. I hope you'll continue to volunteer, and maybe another time open your home to a different dog.

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e open your home to a different dog.

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

to me having a dog in your foster care isn't any different than having a child in your foster care. When your child is sick would you wait to get approval and care from the organization's physicians? I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to wait around until I could reach someone there to talk to them about it. I'd get that child to a doctor asap. If I knew that child was in pain I'd sure as hell not wait around. Now if it was something minor that could wait and they weren't in pain then ok...by all means contact the organization, wait for approval or whatever.

But your situation does not sound like something that could wait....ear and foot infections I'm sure are very painful to that dog. Why wait? Find a vet, get them there, pay for it and then contact the organization, tell them what happened and  have them reimburse you for the care.

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ganization's physicians? I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to wait around until I could reach someone there to talk to them about it. I'd get that chil

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Aha! Smelly ears...that's a clue. What made you write, "But I assume it's from yeast.", in regards to his feet? Did someone at the shelter ever mention that might be a possibility?

Two of the most common ear/skin boogity oogities are yeast (usually Malassezia pachydermatitis or Candida albicans), and bacterial Pseudomonas aeruginosa. Yeast tend have a dirty sock smell, where the Pseudomonas tends to be sweet smelling. Both can present as local or systemic infections, and on the skin as well.

It's possible the stress incurred by the move from the shelter and into a new home lowered his immune system enough to suddenly exacerbate and make obvious the foot problem.

Regardless, wherever he ends up, I hope he gets his medical issues addressed and resolved.

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I was talking about Bones, and some of the difficulties I had with him and a few people asked who the organization that owns him was, and I took it as harmless curiosity and I told them it was ........................... After that it's not hard to look up their website and who the head honcho is and call or email. That's my fault for putting to much info out there, but I am also greatful someone thinks he can be placed, soon.

I'll still go volunteer see the doggies, and if in while there's another lil doggie in great need, thats not so hard to care for, maybe we'll see.

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

How did the deaf dog group (online, right?) know how to reach the agency from which you fostered the dog?

I'm sorry he's going away. I hope you'll continue to volunteer, and maybe another time open your home to a different dog.

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Tfb,
I am sorry for the outcome as I know it makes you sad; here is something you might want to consider in the future: You are very open about everything.
There isn't anything necessarily wrong with that but sometimes it is wise to not tell everybody everything.
On the other hand, perhaps you were enjoying being part of the on-line deaf dog caregivers/owners group and being a part of something with people you have things in common with is very nice... and yet again perhaps you were just feeling overwhelmed because of all the things you simply didn't expect.
Neither of those things are wrong.

Learning when to filter what you say and how you present it can sometimes help alleviate uncomfortabilities when you are with other people.
It is okay to be exactly who you are but it is also okay to learn how to better express yourself appropriately when 'out in the world'.

I think it would be a horrible shame for you to lose your child-like qualities but being a grown-up means differentiating between child-like and childish.
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Yes. sharing less will help avoid heart ache in some cases, I have already learned that the hard wayy in regards to my relationship sometimes. I was to open on fetlife, here too but the trouble makers were all on fetand in being so invited the wrong kind of people into my "life" and relationship with what I was sharing and and people used what I said to cause problems later on or attack me or say horrible things about my partner in malice, I've since then scaled back on somethings I shared, but I didn't see any harm in talking to the group about my difficulties with bones, and my triumphs too, it was great to share.I never imagined someone would go run back to the organization and tell them everything I was saying.


I am a big enough woman to admit he was more than I could handle sometimes though. and even had doubts about my suitability to handle him and perhaps I should take him back. There's no shame what so ever in over estimating something or trying something and it didn't work out.

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom
The rescue owner Told me today she got a bunch of emails saying I was having a hard time with Bones and stuff, from the deaf dog group I was on, and some how out of all that came an offer to help him because the organization deals solely with deaf dogs and thinks they can place him So she is going to take him back and place him with that organization.


One one hand I did what I came to do, I took care of him till someone else could, and I am a little bit relieved, because as much as I adored him, someone else with more experience would benefit him more, but on the other hand I am a little upset that someone*s* took it upon themselves to go running to the owner and tell them what I was saying here, because we all have growing pains in the beginning and we all need a chance to find out bearings so tattling to the owner about what's said on the group was a low blow.

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I'll still go volunteer see the doggies, and if in while there's another lil doggie in great need, thats not so hard to care for, maybe we'll see.

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

I honestly think the shelter is so overwhelmed with dogs, and not enough people to keep an eye on one particular dog, things that are not immediately obvious go un noticed. When you're one of ............................... dogs you don't have the luxury of having someone fussing over every inch of you every day and noticing these things before it becomes obvious.

It's not hard to connect 2 and 2 and come up with 4 cause his ears had a little yeast problem if not cleaned, and I recognized the redness and weepy from what i've seen and read about yeast infections and weeping in human skin when when irritated moist skin with lots of rubbing or lack of air circulation, as in toe folds, are left uncontrolled or un treated.

I hope so too, he deserves it. they all do.

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I'm liking the sound of this leech business, but I'm curious about the possibility of the transmission of blood borne diseases, protozoa, and parasites from one animal to another. I wonder if each patient, human or animal, gets their own fresh, unused leeches?

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I'm liking the sound of this leech business, but I'm curious about the possibility of the transmission of blood borne diseases, protozoa, and parasites from one animal to another. I wonder if each patient, human or animal, gets their own fresh, unused leeches?

I saw a show on it quite a while ago. Well about the places that "grow" them. They do so in a medical environment, so there is a lot of care taken to ensure those problems don't exist.

As I said, I didn't think the US used them except in extreme cases, and never heard of them being used on animals. I thought it was only in very rare cases it might be used on humans.

While I do understand how it can be very helpful, it still makes my skin crawl. I can't even deal with a tick, and you know how I feel about those icky cave crickets. Speaking of, Socks was chasing one in the bedroom today! All the rain and warm whether must have woken it up. EEEEWWW!

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

BTW, considering your extreme distaste for ticks, cave crickets and whatnot, do you really it wise to advertise this? You know what they say...never arm either your enemies or friends with such ammunition, as friendly fire is just as painful and deadly. You know, of course, I'm just teasing, right? Just pokin' a little fun atchya cause I likya, and I'm at a safe distance and can get away with it!