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RE: total slavery - 11/30/2011 2:30:02 PM   
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I like the color green and the scent of flowers. I adore rainy days. I prefer vegetables over meat. To be a human being is to have preferences, they go down to our DNA - preferring one thing over another is part of our make-up. Some of it is instinctual/biological, such as an aversion to bitter taste, and some is emotional. Some preferences come from our past experiences and some are whimsy. Why is this idea of women having preferences so abhorrent? The women who know what they want and then announcing their preferences in a profile seems to be a great idea, that way like-thinking men can contact them. Others can keep looking.

People generally stay with things that make them feel alive, energetic, and cared for.....they don't generally choose to be miserable or even just so-so. People tend to seek joy, not mediocrity. If they take the time to put a song on the CD player they choose something they enjoy, not something they can't stand. Even if they love slavery in general, they love it more in connection with a man who brings joy for them into that relationship.

Lets twist this a bit OP. You say that you want a woman who puts their love for being a slave first over every other thing, including their own preferences. They themselves always come second to the man they are serving and his wishes. Is that special? Do you really want a woman who puts a concept over a person? If she has no preferences/wants/desires and only wants to serve, then ANYONE WILL DO. Including you. Therefore there isn't anything special about you at all, she'd be happy serving anyone remember? It would be more rewarding wouldn't it if she had preferences and used them to select you?

Simply having ownership of a robot, which isn't actually possible because remember humans all have preferences, wouldn't actually be very fulfilling would it if that robot performed for anyone? Where is the Mastery or fun in having an appliance that performs at will and is not bound to you, the man, who she is with? To know that another chooses you and prefers you is high praise and much more satisfying I'd think than owing an appliance.



Excellent and well presented points!

The only thing I will differ with you on is many people do accept being miserable, and seek and settle for mediocity.

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RE: total slavery - 11/30/2011 2:57:53 PM   
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Want a great slave? Create a great relationship!
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Great line, reminds me of one I read, "If you want to paint a perfect picture, make yourself perfect and paint naturally."

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RE: total slavery - 11/30/2011 3:17:49 PM   
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Well I know I am a true slave---today at work I had to sneeze so I called my D to ask permission to do so.   He didn't answer, I couldn't get permission so my face exploded.


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RE: total slavery - 11/30/2011 4:08:54 PM   
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Well I know I am a true slave---today at work I had to sneeze so I called my D to ask permission to do so. He didn't answer, I couldn't get permission so my face exploded.


Oh my god, that happened to you TOO?!?

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RE: total slavery - 11/30/2011 4:21:42 PM   
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RE: total slavery - 11/30/2011 4:27:14 PM   
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Well I know I am a true slave---today at work I had to sneeze so I called my D to ask permission to do so.   He didn't answer, I couldn't get permission so my face exploded.

Good thing you didn't need to burp......


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RE: total slavery - 11/30/2011 5:57:18 PM   
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+1 SimplyMichael!
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Only 1? Really? I would add a zero to that one. Maybe even two. Perhaps it should be required reading for every guy who wants to call themselves "dominant" or "master." That kind of good.

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RE: total slavery - 11/30/2011 6:10:00 PM   
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Well I know I am a true slave---today at work I had to sneeze so I called my D to ask permission to do so.   He didn't answer, I couldn't get permission so my face exploded.



A funny and frightening visual!

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RE: total slavery - 12/1/2011 12:22:40 PM   
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+1 SimplyMichael!
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Only 1? Really? I would add a zero to that one. Maybe even two. Perhaps it should be required reading for every guy who wants to call themselves "dominant" or "master." That kind of good.


Just remember that as pretty as those are, they are mere words...not actions. That talking a good game is NOT the same as making it a reality. Creating a great relationship takes work and patience as well as skill and luck. I have yet to achieve it myself, at least not in the long term life partner sense that I mean.

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RE: total slavery - 12/1/2011 12:30:49 PM   
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Just remember that as pretty as those are, they are mere words...not actions. That talking a good game is NOT the same as making it a reality. Creating a great relationship takes work and patience as well as skill and luck.


That's very true -- people can write or say anything they want -- actual action is something far different.

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RE: total slavery - 12/1/2011 1:58:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course they are just words. But they are good words. Thoughts are not much more than words either, but they are usually the basis for our actions. So logically, although they are "just words," they are words that formed by thoughts, and those thoughts have led you to your search. Having not successfully found what you are looking for doesn't make the thought of what you want less meaningful, the words that form the shape of that thought, or the actions you (or others) may have taken in an effort to achieve that goal, do they?

Yes, anyone can say anything. In your case, however, you have been around here long enough that most people know you aren't just trying to blow smoke up everyone's ass by the statement you made. I stand by my opinion that all people who care to take the dominant path should read that statement and see what it might mean for them.

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RE: total slavery - 12/1/2011 2:41:19 PM   
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An owner would have the right to sell or kill their slave in a real slave situation(not that it is legal)( and no I dont condone killing anyone).



Having the ability to do something does not give a person 'rights' to do that thing.

Successful long lasting relationships generally involve evolutions and progressions. How something starts is rarely how it stays or you invite stagnation which can lead to boredom, unhappiness and dissolution of the relationship. For me, slavery was not something that was in my mindset when I entered into my current relationship (over 15 years ago). It was something which we both discovered along the way. Time has been a large factor in our success. The time we took to get to know one another before we hooked up, before he collared me, before we went from a point where I had some level of autonomy to the point where any autonomy I have now is only that which he grants to me and that autonomy is not a right but a priviledge that I earned back from him by showing him that I am trustworthy.. something he had to prove to me as well.

So, in summation, my 'mindset' was one of being true to myself so I could be put who I really am into a relationship that I enjoy and want, very much, to succeed with this kinda nerdy, overly smart, street-wise wiseass from the Bronx who is more than I thought I wanted, more than I thought I deserved and who, I discovered, is exactly what I needed to thrive. My mindset now, is one where, yes, I'll do anything he asks of me because of who 'he' is and because I know exactly what it is that he will actually ask of me.. because I took to the time to find out all that stuff over the last 15 years.

Matching labels is a great way to start conversations.. but if the people who wear those labels don't match, the label itself means diddly.

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RE: total slavery - 12/1/2011 2:42:57 PM   
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Having not successfully found what you are looking for. ...


I did...she didn't


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In your case, however, you have been around here long enough that most people know you aren't just trying to blow smoke up everyone's ass by the statement you made. I stand by my opinion that all people who care to take the dominant path should read that statement and see what it might mean for them.


Thank you very very much, I am deeply honored.

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RE: total slavery - 12/1/2011 6:47:19 PM   
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Having not successfully found what you are looking for. ...


I did...she didn't



Now THAT really sucks. But I think many of have been there at some point. I've chosen to believe that when that happened to me, I only THOUGHT he was what I was looking for and that what I really am looking for and the person who is really right for me is someone else. Maybe not, but like I said, I *chose* to believe that, since it certainly gives hope for the future.

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RE: total slavery - 12/2/2011 7:10:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


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Having not successfully found what you are looking for. ...


I did...she didn't



Now THAT really sucks. But I think many of have been there at some point. I've chosen to believe that when that happened to me, I only THOUGHT he was what I was looking for and that what I really am looking for and the person who is really right for me is someone else. Maybe not, but like I said, I *chose* to believe that, since it certainly gives hope for the future.
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It certainly broke my heart but the pain also forced me to face take a really hard look at why she left and what I needed to change in my life to be able to not just attract an amazing woman like but keep her. That drive resulted in me starting a new career, going from the bottom to now gaining hard on six figures, owning a beautiful house, financially very solvent, and having dealt with some interpersonal skills that were problematic. We created something pretty magical with a lot less than I have going on now. She will be lucky to get someone as good as I was again. I am looking for someone even more special than she was and I will make her very happy and very very mine.

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RE: total slavery - 12/2/2011 7:59:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was reading a great article about how inertia can affect people. They're not "stuck" so much as they are staying on a trajectory that forces around them have set them on, and it takes something drastic to introduce enough energy to cause them to slow down and change direction.
Losing someone like that sounds like it was the force for you.

What you posted reminded me of this quote that a friend posted on FB:

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"Why can't we find someone!? Because of Us. Irrational fears and insecurities making an impossible task for an unsuspecting lover. Value on the material, overlooking the important, and fighting fiercely for futility. We rant daily that we desire someone to turn our world upside down, while we refuse to do anything differently ourselves. Insanity by the very definition. Going the same places, with... the same people, acting the same way. No change in our music, hobbies, food we eat, friends, schedules, or even beliefs. Then someone new offers their world and what do we do?! Feign interest. Grow uncomfortable. Then resent. Desperately clinging to a life we were already unhappy in. No compromise or appreciation. Wallowing in the sad belief that another needs to give up everything, while we sacrifice nothing. Week after week the cycle continues. If our life the way it is, has gone nowhere... when was repeating it going to go anywhere!? No one should be forced into anything, but when did humanity lose the ability to adapt, or give to another willingly?! The day we lost the ability to change, while blaming someone else for offering it, was the beginning of the end for us all. For who needs an Armageddon, when we already created our own Hell, right here, where we are?!" -- The Edge


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RE: total slavery - 12/2/2011 9:05:33 AM   
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Can you accept that you are owned with no choice even that of release? Can someone in consensual slavery truely be a slave with no choices and not just walk away because they are unhappy at times?



To answer your question... I am an owner and realize that the agreement that I have with my slave is more fantasy than reality (no choice, without thought or hesitation), however consensual slavery CANNOT create or produce a true slave. The only way to have a true slave is by a non-consensual relationship.

For example only!....... The Jewish people that were captured during WWII were "true" slaves. To Hitler they were his personal property as a group and individually, he expected them to do whatever he told them without thought or hesitation and if they didn't they were killed. If they did not do something as he thought it should have been completed he would kill them. He would randomly shoot his property for enjoyment and to torment other that were around them. But they had no choice. They were true slaves.

In my opinion a consensual slave cannot be a "true" slave, even if he/she exactly meets the criteria to be a "true" slave. His or her giving the power and authority to another is a choice that he or she makes and that means that at some point they had a choice.

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RE: total slavery - 12/2/2011 11:01:16 AM   
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RE: total slavery - 12/2/2011 11:08:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Terry? go away. fantasists have their place, but by everything your wife has posted (which has been exacerbated by everything YOU post.. ) you are an abuser.




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so, by your definition:" In my opinion a consensual slave cannot be a "true" slave, even if he/she exactly meets the criteria to be a "true" slave. His or her giving the power and authority to another is a choice that he or she makes and that means that at some point they had a choice. "

your wife is not a TRUE slave? or are you saying that you have non-consenually enslaved her?

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RE: total slavery - 12/2/2011 11:10:43 AM   
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