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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 12:25:25 PM   
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LL, lol i was having maybe 3 over a course of a week and not even full ones just slices for lunch.  Completely freaked me and my doc out but they saw the A1C and that was the only thing i changed -- going from no apples to that.  So they think i am really sensitive to fructose as i normally don't eat a lot of fruit.  I stopped eating them and my A1C went back down to 6.3 in 3 months.  So i am a little wary of fruits with higher fructose now.

Yeah i need to learn to drink coffee without sugar but i haven't been able to do it yet.  I used to in my 25 oz cup full of coffee add 6 splenda packets  which averages out to about 2 per cup and i drink about 3 of those a day more if i am stressed.  I have gotten that cup down to 3 packets a day.  They say coffee is one of the best things for diabetics but they mean black coffee. 

I don't test my blood sugar, we just do A1Cs when i visit the doc every 3 months.  He believe i should be able to get off all meds by July of next year if i keep doing what i am doing.  He continued my visits from every 3 months to 6 months now.

Thanks regarding the crockpot, i am only cooking the meats and don't really want to have to stick around to thaw them and then cook them in the oven, so i figured the crockpot would free me up to come and go whenever today and tomorrow.  They do have baking instructions on them.

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No, i wasn't saying i would put pineapple in my coffee, but use it as a sugar substitute in other things lol. 

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 12:31:45 PM   
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Your doctor "approves" because it is the lesser of two evils. Financially though, you are killing yourself with those things.

You don't like to cook, so most of this is NEVER going to be helpful to you, but you need to realize that cooking is a necessity in your life.

I have chronic pain issues and know that standing for too long is going to cause pain that can last for days. Sometimes I will keep going and then take a couple days off, others, I just can't. So I know what you are saying here.

But there are ways around that. First, sit down in a kitchen chair and do your chopping at the table, so there is no standing. Second, choose meals that don't require constant attention, like using the crock pot. You can prepare the entire meal for the crock pot sitting at the table. Put the crock pot on the table, and throw everything in, then move it to where you want to plug it in. You just avoided a major pain attack. Right now, we don't even have room to do that at a kitchen table, but it is what I did in the past. Or you could get a high stool and sit at the counter.

Same thing for any "labor intensive" preparation. Peel potatos, do your chopping, mixing all at the table. If you have an outlet nearby, you can plug things in.

Those Healthy Choice meals aren't filling you up, and so then you need to have snacks to compensate. Make yourself something in the crock pot, then a nice salad and you will be more satisfied. A lot of things that go in the crock pot don't take all day to cook. Some only take an hour or two. So read the recipes. If it is an all day meal, you could even start preparing it the day before. Take your time and when you need a break, shove the crock pot insert in the fridge and come back after a rest.

Yes, bananas are on the "eat only on occasion" list of fruits for diabetics, and then only half, maybe once or twice a week. Buy a smaller bunch so they don't go bad. If bananas are separated and stored so they don't touch each other, they won't brown as fast. Of course you will have random bananas all over the kitchen, but less waste, lol.

There ARE ways to still cook for yourself regardless of the pain issues and your dislike of it. There are lots of thing in life we don't "enjoy" doing, but have to do it anyway as part of life. Resign yourself to making cooking one of them.

Here's a "challenge" for you. For one month, eat your "Healthy Choice" meals only 3 nights per week. The other 4, cook. You can even cook in the crock pot so you are only really preparing the food twice, eating left overs twice. Do it for one whole month. See what a difference it makes.

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 12:35:19 PM   
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Exactly. A Type I levels everything out with their insulin. Of course, if they are drinking alcohol every day, or bingeing on candy all the time, there is going to be a problem. But for the most part, if they eat a normal diet, they use their insulin to manage their diabetes. Of course, "normal" does not include regular visits to McDonald's and the like or having cake for breakfast and eating pasta every day, lol.

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 12:36:57 PM   
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I make sticky rice, fuck knows why.

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 12:59:06 PM   
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Thanks needlesandpins --

My crock pot has a timer.  So i start it on low in the morning before leaving for work and then it should be done by the time i get home?

Can you explain why it is better to dethaw so i know in the future the whys?   Also, how do i dethaw two frozen solid loins quickly without cooking them in the microwave dethaw lol.


Quickest and safest way to quickly defrost a piece of meat (that you haven't been able to let defrost in the fridge) is to use slowly circulating cold water.  You can soak them in water but that is slower and lets the temp of the meat potentially get into unsafe ranges.

Alton Brown actually has a neat example of the best ways to defrost on youtube...(this is from the "whats up duck episode, so unless you are interested in duck you can skip right away to 5:00 in.)  If you are talking about those vacuum sealed pre marinated meats you can submerge them as is.  (I do that all the time.)

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 1:02:30 PM   
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I was posting as I read. Had not seen your post at that time. It certainly wasn't to dispute what you said.

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 1:29:04 PM   
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I use molasses in my rye bread, which is very good. I don't like the taste in other breads, although I do use it for this awesome sweet potato recipe that is just to die for.

Molasses just does not blend well with everything, taste wise.


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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 1:41:54 PM   
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Stella, I don't know if they have quick sale meats there but I do most of my shopping by looking for them. Last time I shopped, I found turkey parts with $1.00 off coupons on each of them.
The result: I bought a turkey thigh for $0.18 and a turkey leg quarter for $0.82 so $1.00 for 3 1/2 lbs of turkey.

Things that I rely on when I am not successful bargain shopping are things such as lentils. They aren't expensive, they have a lot of fiber and protein which makes them a good option for diabetics and they are versatile.

Often I will cook then with either Indian or Middle Eastern type spices but if you don't like that then use what you like... just perhaps use a bit more than you ordinarily would as lentils soak up spices like crazy.

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 1:44:38 PM   
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I make sticky rice, fuck knows why.


I am going to Nine's place...I love sticky rice.


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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 1:47:35 PM   
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Most, but not all. Healthy choice steamers has a lot of healthier tv dinners, I pick the ones low in sugar, low in carbs, and not a lot of calories, between 300 sometimes less, a reasonable amount of sodium, and has a lot of potassium and some have a ton of fiber, and they're not expensive, they're 1.48 a piece. If they're high in carbs or sugars like say 70 carbs and 28 or more grams of sugar, for one dinner, I do not pick those, I stay 17 grams and under for sugar.


My dr even approves of me eating them, because I pick the most healthy ones out of the bunch. Things like chicken and carrots and green beans with a bit of rice, and then water chestnuts. Yes rice is not the greatest for diabetics but that depends on you and how you process rice, and how much you're eating, some D's can have it and not spike or spike badly, and some can't.

home cooked would still be preferable I just don't like to cook. I don't find it enjoyable, or relaxing, or satisfying , and I get no help in the kitchen, as Daddy is at work all day, in a kitchen doing food prep and what not , and when he gets home wants nothing to do with kitchen work, or cooking, plus he gets home so late I have to cook while he's gone , most the time if I do cook, cooking a meal at 8 pm and then eating at 8:30 or 9 or 10, depending on what it is and how long it takes it just to late to eat.

So, I don't find it as fun or joyful as a lot of people find it, in fact I find it stressful and I find unless the time on my feet is very very minimal the time spent cooking sets off pain flare ups, as I have a slipped disk pressing on a nerve that causes leg pain and weakness.

I really wish I did find being in the kitchen and being domestic-y as joyous and enjoyable as many other people do, it's an enviable thing.



One of the many reasons to love your crock pot I suppose. And I almost spelled it cock pot, I should of left that typo in, it would of been funny.





i have a friend who just ate "healthy Weight Watchers" food, as a result he got such a bad heart attack, because almost all ready made food is too much laden with salts and sodium, and he had a heart transplant.

Ready made food, especially on a budget might be calorie reduced and seemingly healthy, but they will add a ton of things that are hell for your health, but improve the taste and make manufacturing easier and cheaper. You simply can't beat a healthy, home cooked meal made from scratch, after eating that for a while, you will realize how much your taste buds have changed and how much more sensitive they are.

As for rice, try brown rice. You're very young, much too young to be pre-diabetic and - not trying to be offensive here - your weight adds a lot of work for your heart and your joints, it's pretty easy to do fresh cooking from scratch and it's very very cheap. The whole problem is that a lot of the fast food is seriously addictive and kills your taste buds, so it takes time to change.

I'm a foodie, I like to eat well and I like to eat lots, we don't drink a lot but if we drink we drink nice wines or single malts, the meat we buy is all organically raised and we eat well, but I bet we spend a lot less than people who buy crappy ready made food and we eat better and are healthier.


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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 6:34:41 PM   
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I'm a foodie, I like to eat well and I like to eat lots, we don't drink a lot but if we drink we drink nice wines or single malts, the meat we buy is all organically raised and we eat well, but I bet we spend a lot less than people who buy crappy ready made food and we eat better and are healthier.



I bet so too. We both know, a meal that costs a dollar....those have to be empty calories and enough sodium to choke a horse.

I get that some do not like to cook. You may never be able to cook like I do. Cool. But learn to cook well enough so you can be healthy.

To me, this is a basic life skill like driving a car or balancing your check book. Sure, you can live w/o it, but life is so much more difficult. And learning to cook or drive or balance your check book really is not that hard.

You don't have to like it. I hate dealing with finances and have to be forced to do it. It's not that I can't (I am in the 99 percentile for intelligence) I don't *like * to.

Well, poor me. Part of being an adult is sucking it up and doing things you don't like.

You don't have to become a chef or an accountant or a mechanic. You just have to learn to deal with those things you don't like and you are *maybe* afraid of.




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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 6:42:11 PM   
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Ready made food, especially on a budget might be calorie reduced and seemingly healthy, but they will add a ton of things that are hell for your health, but improve the taste and make manufacturing easier and cheaper. You simply can't beat a healthy, home cooked meal made from scratch, after eating that for a while, you will realize how much your taste buds have changed and how much more sensitive they are.


The first 12 lbs I lost was simply from giving up frozen dinners and processed cheese slices; it was really that simple. I'm not talking about the cheap crap ones either, these supposedly steamed by use of a special bowl.

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 8:07:20 PM   
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Here's a yummy, quickie I had tonight. An assortment of stir fried, sliced up veggies and chicken in a store brand sweet & sour sauce, dosed w/some soy sauce once upon rice. Was so good it was hard to put the fork down!

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 8:19:58 PM   
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LL, lol i was having maybe 3 over a course of a week and not even full ones just slices for lunch.  Completely freaked me and my doc out but they saw the A1C and that was the only thing i changed -- going from no apples to that.  So they think i am really sensitive to fructose as i normally don't eat a lot of fruit.  I stopped eating them and my A1C went back down to 6.3 in 3 months.  So i am a little wary of fruits with higher fructose now.

Yeah i need to learn to drink coffee without sugar but i haven't been able to do it yet.  I used to in my 25 oz cup full of coffee add 6 splenda packets  which averages out to about 2 per cup and i drink about 3 of those a day more if i am stressed.  I have gotten that cup down to 3 packets a day.  They say coffee is one of the best things for diabetics but they mean black coffee. 

I don't test my blood sugar, we just do A1Cs when i visit the doc every 3 months.  He believe i should be able to get off all meds by July of next year if i keep doing what i am doing.  He continued my visits from every 3 months to 6 months now.

Thanks regarding the crockpot, i am only cooking the meats and don't really want to have to stick around to thaw them and then cook them in the oven, so i figured the crockpot would free me up to come and go whenever today and tomorrow.  They do have baking instructions on them.

angel

No, i wasn't saying i would put pineapple in my coffee, but use it as a sugar substitute in other things lol. 


Barely, while I cannot speak with any authority on this, I have heard Splenda, aside from other problems with it, is NOT good for diabetics. Some recommend Stevia, "Just Like Sugar," Agave Syrup, Xylitol.

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 9:15:38 PM   
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Barely, while I cannot speak with any authority on this, I have heard Splenda, aside from other problems with it, is NOT good for diabetics. Some recommend Stevia, "Just Like Sugar," Agave Syrup, Xylitol.


For the most part, when people use artificial sweeteners regularly, the body will recognize and treat them just like sugar. When it comes to coffee, the best thing to do is to cut down on sugar. The only thing I put sugar in is espresso and then it is less than a 1/4 teaspoon. Friends who would see that would ask why I bothered since it was only a few granules, lol. Truth is it only took a few granules to take the bitterness away for me.

Of course, Sambuca did that much better!

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 9:42:08 PM   
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Cook w/ acid, spices, chile, herbs.  They make otherwise bland food more interesting.
Make use of unami foods like mushrooms, tomatoes, parm, anchovies.
Consider ethnic cuisines, especially those that stretch meat by cooking it w/ pasta or rice.

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ETA:  ooh, ooh.  You can usually find salmon collars for really cheap.



I am just now finishing off a pot of faux "Pho" w/ carrots, celery, broccoli, green peas, onions, a tomato that was on the verge, beef base (NOT bouillion or broth), chili-garlic sauce, lime juice (thought I had some lemon grass in the freezer but no), 1/2 off flank steak from Kroger, a touch of fish sauce, and some chinese noodles. I have snow peas and baby bok choy in the fridge, but I'm keeping them for something else (orange-sesame noodles, chicken w/ bok choy Cantonese style, and fried tofu w/ snow peas w/ homemade "satay" sauce.

I have always like Cajun Red Beans n Rice. And Gumbo. Fairly cheap to make if one omits seafood and uses chix, ham, andouille...

Potato-corn chowder w/ ham (or Kielbasa) with chipotle and mint.

Pasta w/ tomatoes (sundried if ya want), red bells, kalamata olives, fresh basil, and lots of shaved Parmigiano. A bit of carrot puree sweetens it.


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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 9:54:17 PM   
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Oh wow.. nine pages?

I'm not even going to try and go through this post by post (I tend to screw up or kill threads when I try that) but I'd like to say a big thank you to everyone who's posted so far for making this such an interesting and enjoyable thread to read, and also to Fornica for coming up with the idea of a recipe book or collection.

I admit that I've been debating for about two years now over whether to buy a small chest freezer or not. Part of me says that it's a good investment, but part of me says that it isn't for various reasons.

I have my own passage through poverty (homelessness) and also major issues with weight due to various eating disorders - bulimia, and both comfort and binge eating which were symptoms of depression. I have tackled these issues and lost quite a lot of weight, but still have some way to go, and understanding that I'm always going to be vulnerable I also made very major changes to my diet and lifestyle.

As part of my recovery I rarely keep much more than the basic foodstuffs at home and I discipline myself to go shopping every day and buy 'raw' foods - I try to eat as naturally as possible and cook everything from scratch. It was only last year when I bought a small food processor which for me was a major revolution and I can now make my own fruit and vegetable juices, soups, sauces and stuff like humus.

Most of my shopping is the cheapest supermarket 'budget' brands, partly because some foods I just don't see the sense of paying more for a brand. Also partly because I know that the cheapest quality Tescos instant coffee is actually Maxwell House, the drip coffee from Sainsbury's is made by Tchibo, even though I will spend two hours crossing London to a small Turkish shop and pay five pounds for a small tin of incredibly good quality Turkish coffee.

I am eternally gratefully to a couple of people who taught me how to make two dishes - curry and the Polish dish bigos.

I learned how to make curry years ago when I spent my teenage years in Bradford and worked part time for Pakistanis in a couple of shops, a clothing shop and also a restaurant. I washed dishes and cleaned the kitchen, but was taught how to make curry the way most Pakistanis make curry.

Curry to me is a dish which, like Polish bigos and spaghetti bolognaise - among others - isn't something you make but rather a dish you build.

Pakistanis start with frying onions in ghee, to which they add spices and curry and then whatever ingredients they want the curry to be made up from - such as minced beef and peas for keema, chicken for bhuna, and so on. Allergic to dairy I substitute oil for ghee, preferring either sunflower or groundnut oil and I tend to cheat and use Oriental curry pastes which I buy from the Chinese supermarkets in Soho.

Similarly too I make the Polish bigos, which is based on cabbage and to which you can add wild mushrooms and selected offcuts of cooked meat starting with a base of water, tomato puree, onions and fenugreek.

Not that this makes me that incredibly good as a cook.

I cannot make pancakes or crepes to save my life. Each time I try I end up with a sort of pallid, gunky mess which is inedible. Last year alone I had five microwaves and all five exploded due to my habit of cooking baked potatoes by microwave.

I have heard of pulled pork - but what is it?

And what are salmon collars? I admit that salmon is a word that leaps right out at me. It's perhaps my favourite food, rather expensive here in the UK, but it's a sort of 'cat meet salmon, salmon meet cat' sort of relationship with me. Such is my relationship with salmon that I would gladly sign my soul away to any Dominant as a slave if it meant me being collared with salmon.

But I don't think I have the right idea here.

But please, keep posting, as I'm learning quite a lot on this thread and I'm finding some of the things which are posted really interesting and informative.



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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 10:03:01 PM   
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Oh wow.. nine pages?

I'm not even going to try and go through this post by post (I tend to screw up or kill threads when I try that) but I'd like to say a big thank you to everyone who's posted so far for making this such an interesting and enjoyable thread to read, and also to Fornica for coming up with the idea of a recipe book or collection.

I admit that I've been debating for about two years now over whether to buy a small chest freezer or not. Part of me says that it's a good investment, but part of me says that it isn't for various reasons.

I have my own passage through poverty (homelessness) and also major issues with weight due to various eating disorders - bulimia, and both comfort and binge eating which were symptoms of depression. I have tackled these issues and lost quite a lot of weight, but still have some way to go, and understanding that I'm always going to be vulnerable I also made very major changes to my diet and lifestyle.

As part of my recovery I rarely keep much more than the basic foodstuffs at home and I discipline myself to go shopping every day and buy 'raw' foods - I try to eat as naturally as possible and cook everything from scratch. It was only last year when I bought a small food processor which for me was a major revolution and I can now make my own fruit and vegetable juices, soups, sauces and stuff like humus.

Most of my shopping is the cheapest supermarket 'budget' brands, partly because some foods I just don't see the sense of paying more for a brand. Also partly because I know that the cheapest quality Tescos instant coffee is actually Maxwell House, the drip coffee from Sainsbury's is made by Tchibo, even though I will spend two hours crossing London to a small Turkish shop and pay five pounds for a small tin of incredibly good quality Turkish coffee.

I am eternally gratefully to a couple of people who taught me how to make two dishes - curry and the Polish dish bigos.

I learned how to make curry years ago when I spent my teenage years in Bradford and worked part time for Pakistanis in a couple of shops, a clothing shop and also a restaurant. I washed dishes and cleaned the kitchen, but was taught how to make curry the way most Pakistanis make curry.

Curry to me is a dish which, like Polish bigos and spaghetti bolognaise - among others - isn't something you make but rather a dish you build.

Pakistanis start with frying onions in ghee, to which they add spices and curry and then whatever ingredients they want the curry to be made up from - such as minced beef and peas for keema, chicken for bhuna, and so on. Allergic to dairy I substitute oil for ghee, preferring either sunflower or groundnut oil and I tend to cheat and use Oriental curry pastes which I buy from the Chinese supermarkets in Soho.

Similarly too I make the Polish bigos, which is based on cabbage and to which you can add wild mushrooms and selected offcuts of cooked meat starting with a base of water, tomato puree, onions and fenugreek.

Not that this makes me that incredibly good as a cook.

I cannot make pancakes or crepes to save my life. Each time I try I end up with a sort of pallid, gunky mess which is inedible. Last year alone I had five microwaves and all five exploded due to my habit of cooking baked potatoes by microwave.

I have heard of pulled pork - but what is it?

And what are salmon collars? I admit that salmon is a word that leaps right out at me. It's perhaps my favourite food, rather expensive here in the UK, but it's a sort of 'cat meet salmon, salmon meet cat' sort of relationship with me. Such is my relationship with salmon that I would gladly sign my soul away to any Dominant as a slave if it meant me being collared with salmon.

But I don't think I have the right idea here.

But please, keep posting, as I'm learning quite a lot on this thread and I'm finding some of the things which are posted really interesting and informative.



Pulled pork recipes:

http://www.kevinandamanda.com/recipes/dinner/perfect-pulled-pork-slow-roasted-seasoned-savory.html

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/slow-cooker-pulled-pork/

Salmon collar definition I pulled off the web:

You'll only get fish collars on very large fish. The collar is the first cut between the gills and the dorsal fin.

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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 11:41:06 PM   
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I have heard of pulled pork - but what is it?

A big chunk of pork shoulder or butt, braised until it's falling apart, and then literally pulled by hand into small shreds. You can then toss the shredded meat in BBQ sauce, or whatever.

And what are salmon collars? I admit that salmon is a word that leaps right out at me. It's perhaps my favourite food, rather expensive here in the UK, but it's a sort of 'cat meet salmon, salmon meet cat' sort of relationship with me. Such is my relationship with salmon that I would gladly sign my soul away to any Dominant as a slave if it meant me being collared with salmon.

A salmon collar is the bony ring (collarbone) of salmon, directly beneath the head, which usually gets thrown away when they cut fillets off the fish. There's still plenty of meat on it, but it's not a posh cut since you have to sort of suck the meat off, like you would from ribs. You will have to specifically ask your fishmonger for them, since they're not normally sold. But if you can convince somebody to save them for you, you should get a good price. You can stew them, grill them, whatever. The same applies to collars of other fish although a halibut collar, for example, would obviously be much bigger.


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RE: What can you knock up cheap? - 12/3/2011 11:49:38 PM   
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I am just now finishing off a pot of faux "Pho" w/ carrots, celery, broccoli, green peas, onions, a tomato that was on the verge, beef base (NOT bouillion or broth), chili-garlic sauce, lime juice (thought I had some lemon grass in the freezer but no), 1/2 off flank steak from Kroger, a touch of fish sauce, and some chinese noodles. I have snow peas and baby bok choy in the fridge, but I'm keeping them for something else (orange-sesame noodles, chicken w/ bok choy Cantonese style, and fried tofu w/ snow peas w/ homemade "satay" sauce.

I have always like Cajun Red Beans n Rice. And Gumbo. Fairly cheap to make if one omits seafood and uses chix, ham, andouille...

Potato-corn chowder w/ ham (or Kielbasa) with chipotle and mint.

Pasta w/ tomatoes (sundried if ya want), red bells, kalamata olives, fresh basil, and lots of shaved Parmigiano. A bit of carrot puree sweetens it.


Have You posted to the recipe thread?

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