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Sanity -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 12:38:02 PM)


Mostly unnamed, nonspecific charges, allegations emanating from around people connected in one way or another to Obamas inner circle, charges from people with questionable motives...

On one hand leftists screamed that character doesnt matter. On the other, they claim thats all that matters

Yeah, its all got a very seedy feeling to it. Like the Chicago machine pulled out all of its biggest guns to stop this guy on account of his race, and that no one on the left really gives a shit about anything that they pretend to care about.

Its as if weve sunk another notch or two as a nation in our politics

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I must have missed it.  Are you saying that the left was behind the women that all came forth?  That it had nothing to do with his actual actions?

Character doesn't matter?  You're referring to Clinton smoking weed and cheating on Hillary, not Bush being a cokehead, weed-smoking drunk till he was forty, right?  Joe Weiner?  Larry Craig?  Schwarzenegger?  John Edwards?  Limbaugh and his oxycontin habit?

Sometimes it kills a career, sometimes not.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

What was so important about him that he was the subject of such fierce character assassination by the left

What was so important about him that made leftists reverse themselves on their boisterous "character doesnt matter" claim of the 1990s

It is the fact that he is black and that he was the TEA Party favorite on account of his  conservative views

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

what else did you think was important about him, his 9-9-9- plan? his inability to discuss foreign policy. As you bring up clintons character and his personal life often enough, I find that to be telling.

he close to leave quit so its his issue, ..his character is poor , he cant lie well enough for most people, are you disappointed?.







Sanity -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 12:41:08 PM)


Why does a candidates private sexual life matter in 2011 if it didnt matter in 1996

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

But we were led to believe it was a high tech lynching of a conservative black man.
No it was a revelation of a lying piece of scum, who let his family suffer how long, before doing the right thing(well quitting is the right thing, he still hasnt proven he isnt lying)




willbeurdaddy -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 12:43:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I must have missed it.  Are you saying that the left was behind the women that all came forth?  That it had nothing to do with his actual actions?



No, but they were behind the initial ones, and the rest just came along for a potential windfall.




tazzygirl -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 12:44:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

But we were led to believe it was a high tech lynching of a conservative black man.
No it was a revelation of a lying piece of scum, who let his family suffer how long, before doing the right thing(well quitting is the right thing, he still hasnt proven he isnt lying)


What surprised me was to find out how long he went without contact with his wife after White came forward. Its their marriage... just sorta surprised me is all.

As to the rest, his color plays no part in how he is viewed... which is why I refuse to comment directly to that allegation.

First Firm, then MSAL, then Sanity and ABM, and even willbe.

~shrugs

The race card is fine to toss, as long as they are tossing it.

How quickly they forget that they were railing against the voters who put Obama into office... only because he was black.




Lucylastic -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 12:53:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Why does a candidates private sexual life matter in 2011 if it didnt matter in 1996

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

But we were led to believe it was a high tech lynching of a conservative black man.
No it was a revelation of a lying piece of scum, who let his family suffer how long, before doing the right thing(well quitting is the right thing, he still hasnt proven he isnt lying)


please point out where I have said it did?
if you are talking about anyone else, you would have to talk to them.





Lucylastic -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:00:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

But we were led to believe it was a high tech lynching of a conservative black man.
No it was a revelation of a lying piece of scum, who let his family suffer how long, before doing the right thing(well quitting is the right thing, he still hasnt proven he isnt lying)


What surprised me was to find out how long he went without contact with his wife after White came forward. Its their marriage... just sorta surprised me is all.

As to the rest, his color plays no part in how he is viewed... which is why I refuse to comment directly to that allegation.

First Firm, then MSAL, then Sanity and ABM, and even willbe.

~shrugs

The race card is fine to toss, as long as they are tossing it.

How quickly they forget that they were railing against the voters who put Obama into office... only because he was black.

the whole thing reeks




tazzygirl -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:02:23 PM)

Politics always reeks. Very few can admit their own shit (side) stinks.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:05:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The race card is fine to toss, as long as they are tossing it.

How quickly they forget that they were railing against the voters who put Obama into office... only because he was black.


RIGHT?!?!

The fact that he was black didn't matter -- what mattered was that he was riding the pinnacle of ineptitude while running for the most powerful office in our country.

I'm not sure how that doesn't make sense to people!




tazzygirl -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:10:32 PM)

He thought he was being funny... even cute... when he admitted he was learning all about foreign politics.

He thought he was being slick when he back peddled his way through every "misspeak" he made.

He thought he could get away with slamming the first woman.

Three strikes... that was his last... and with each attack he and his campaign launched against each woman, another came out.. and stated that was the reason for her speaking up. He had the option of plausible deniability. His signature wasnt on a single piece of paper. He could have said.. dont know what you are talking about... I didnt have any knowledge of these accusations... then refused to discuss something he wasnt a party too. And had he simply left it at that, he might have weathered this storm.

Instead he tried to use corporate tactics... attack before bening attacked. That simply doesnt work in politics.




Sanity -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:25:09 PM)


And Obama was a foreign policy expert on day one?

Obama never misspoke?

His dishonesty regarding "the reverend" Wright wasnt an issue?

Clintons lies werent an issue?

I find this post to be very disingenuous of you, and the attitude reflected in it displays the hypocrisy of the left in general. There are absolutely two very separate standards at work here, and in my opinion it is the basis of the very ugly politics that we see in the United States today.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

He thought he was being funny... even cute... when he admitted he was learning all about foreign politics.

He thought he was being slick when he back peddled his way through every "misspeak" he made.

He thought he could get away with slamming the first woman.

Three strikes... that was his last... and with each attack he and his campaign launched against each woman, another came out.. and stated that was the reason for her speaking up. He had the option of plausible deniability. His signature wasnt on a single piece of paper. He could have said.. dont know what you are talking about... I didnt have any knowledge of these accusations... then refused to discuss something he wasnt a party too. And had he simply left it at that, he might have weathered this storm.

Instead he tried to use corporate tactics... attack before bening attacked. That simply doesnt work in politics.




Lucylastic -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:35:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


And Obama was a foreign policy expert on day one?

Obama never misspoke?

His dishonesty regarding "the reverend" Wright wasnt an issue?

Clintons lies werent an issue?

I find this post to be very disingenuous of you, and the attitude reflected in it displays the hypocrisy of the left in general. There are absolutely two very separate standards at work here, and in my opinion it is the basis of the very ugly politics that we see in the United States today.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

He thought he was being funny... even cute... when he admitted he was learning all about foreign politics.

He thought he was being slick when he back peddled his way through every "misspeak" he made.

He thought he could get away with slamming the first woman.

Three strikes... that was his last... and with each attack he and his campaign launched against each woman, another came out.. and stated that was the reason for her speaking up. He had the option of plausible deniability. His signature wasnt on a single piece of paper. He could have said.. dont know what you are talking about... I didnt have any knowledge of these accusations... then refused to discuss something he wasnt a party too. And had he simply left it at that, he might have weathered this storm.

Instead he tried to use corporate tactics... attack before bening attacked. That simply doesnt work in politics.


Obama never said I dont care who is the president of Uzbeki beki beki stan, is
The rest of your post is all so much faffing hypocrisy on what YOU find important and demeaning everyone elses.





Lucylastic -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:41:31 PM)

he hasnt yet offered one piece of evidence in refudiation of any of the accusations.Says a lot in these days of hard proof/bills/tickets/texts? etc




tazzygirl -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:44:41 PM)

I would be surprised if Obama, on day one, didnt know that China had nuclear power.

Everyone misspeaks. Not everyone blames stupid comments borne from ignorance on a "misspeak" which is why that word was in quotes.

Clinton was spanked for his lies. Impeached by the House, suspended from practicing law for 5 years.

Obama's "dishonesty" regarding Reverend White is an issue you should explore.

Sanity is entitled to his opinion of my words. They matter little as they are merely his opinion and not fact.

My issue with Cain started with the abortion issue. Something I have posted before, many times. Something I believe deeply is between a woman and her Doctor... something that is a protected right by the Supreme Court. Something I will not keep quiet about when a politician flip flops about that issue as much as Cain did.

Im sure others have issues with Cain that has nothing to do with abortion. Their issues are not mine. But when a man who is running for the highest office in the land wants to make illegal something woman have fought for decades, and won the right to obtain, then, yeah, I got issues with him.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:49:06 PM)

Look, dude, when I was doing student congress debates, I went out of my way to familiarize myself with all kinds of things about foreign policy, current events, whatever the heck I could get my hands on. I had a file box I carried around with articles in it, I took notes and cut up newspapers, I looked things up, and read everything I could find.
And student congress didn't matter!

Why can't a guy who's running for a REAL office, in a REAL country, with REAL issues do the same? :p
He SHOULD know this stuff. He SHOULD be held to a higher standard. If there's some high schooler doing congress roleplay better than him, he's FAILING. full stop.

(edit: to sanity, not tazzy :p)




Winterapple -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:55:50 PM)

I imagine Mrs Cain and the elders of the party are relieved.
It didn't take any huffing and puffing from the
left to blow Cains house of straw down.
His personal life is what it is. His lack of
knowledge is what it is.
He was out of his league and in over his head.
The higher ups in the Republican party
never for a second considered him as a
serious candidate. Neither did most of the
press, he was just a flavor of the month.
The only people who thought he was a viable
candidate were the same people who thought
Trump was. Naive types with inborn blinders,
rubes who don't get to town very often.
Tea partiers and fringe dwellers in other words.




slvemike4u -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:56:21 PM)

Who says he is done,he merely "suspended" his campaign.....in another story my ex-wifw and I have "suspended" our marriage with a divorce 10 years ago [:D]




tazzygirl -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 1:57:21 PM)

lol

I sorta figured, Lilly. If you start believing Im a man (dude) I need to visit!




LillyBoPeep -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 2:01:17 PM)

^.~ Ooh la la!




rulemylife -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 2:58:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity



What are you, a racist?  [;)]

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
What a shock!!!!!

The inarticulate pizza driver who could not string two coherent sentences together?

It's amazing that Republicans ever supported this moron to begin with.





No, a realist.

I don't want someone representing this country that can barely talk coherently.

We have already had one of those who became the joke of the world.

Can you say Dubya?







rulemylife -> RE: And He is Done (12/3/2011 3:40:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Why does a candidates private sexual life matter in 2011 if it didnt matter in 1996

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

But we were led to believe it was a high tech lynching of a conservative black man.
No it was a revelation of a lying piece of scum, who let his family suffer how long, before doing the right thing(well quitting is the right thing, he still hasnt proven he isnt lying)



I don't know, why don't you tell us since you keep bringing up Clinton's problems?

My problem with Cain had nothing to do with his personal issues.

It was his complete lack of political experience and his inability to speak effectively.

But I do find it amazingly hypocritical that those who denounced Clinton for his personal issues are now insisting that Cain's are of no consequence.




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