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SirDaniel -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/28/2006 1:09:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei What, if any, are the fundamentals of BDSM? *In our house it's always been the foundation of the four cornerstones... Trust, Honesty, Respect and Communication. Everything else builds from there.* *Jewel* I could not have said it better. The house is the Consent. The 4 corner stones that hold it up are *Trust, Honesty, Respect and Communication.* At least in my house as well Jewel and you know how well it works for us..>:)

Sab -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/28/2006 1:51:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: Celeste - I love your posts, I enjoy the content and the answers you give, but I must admit I will never be in a position of understanding a switch, top/bottomer ad infinitum, my make-up as a Dominant just won't allow it. :) No worries, Sab.. I can 'splain it to ya if you'll just bend over and listen. [;)] Umm.. that was an offer.. not a command. [sm=biggrin.gif] Celeste LOL.......Hmmmmmmm ;) Nope [8D]

genvieve -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/28/2006 2:21:11 PM)
The traditional fundamentals for BDSM are Safe, Sane, Consentual... and Trust, Honor, Respect

jamesthehumanrug -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/28/2006 4:43:52 PM)
SIMPLY b,and d is bondage and dicipline ,or litterally bound, to a certain position ,and, s and m is pleasure from pain ,and, it's a certain particular recipee needed;it's , not ,just *all pain* ,and, just any SHOE ya know!.....

Bugei -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/28/2006 4:54:43 PM)
Yagyu Shinkage-ryu but a very long time ago

perverseangelic -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/28/2006 6:07:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Proprietrix Consent. Anything after that is relative to those who consented. Well said and 100% agreed.

darkinshadows -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/29/2006 1:49:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: genvieve The traditional fundamentals for BDSM are Safe, Sane, Consentual... and Trust, Honor, Respect As far as my information goes, the SSC acronym is attributed to David Stein. Now He does not affirim nor deny - but he does insist that it was never meant to be a catch all term and that is frequently misused by people who practise BDSM - just to make it more 'acceptable' to people outside of wiitwd. (see here) The traditional fundementals were never SSC... BDSM has been around since humans could hold a stick - this term only came about in around 30(ish) years or so ago. It's a nice respectable slogan that tries to steer SM away from defined abuse for people outside wiitwd. But what is sane and what is safe? I would hardly call asphyxiation 'sane'... but I do it. Most people would see it as less than safe, yet given the right medical care and instruction, it isn't safe, but at least there is an awareness. Some people would see facials as humiliating and insane. Others find scat or any watersports as both unsafe and totally mad, but they exist. My personal opinion is I would never consider scening with someone who quoted SSC as their mantra and saw it as fundamental to Bdsm... as I have seen it used by more people who have no understanding of it's concept than those that do. The only definable word is consensual. Without mutal consent of all parties, play/scenes/relationships are nothing short of abuse. Peace and Rapture

pinkee -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/29/2006 5:18:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darkinshadows quote: ORIGINAL: genvieve The traditional fundamentals for BDSM are Safe, Sane, Consentual... and Trust, Honor, Respect As far as my information goes, the SSC acronym is attributed to David Stein. Now He does not affirim nor deny - but he does insist that it was never meant to be a catch all term and that is frequently misused by people who practise BDSM - just to make it more 'acceptable' to people outside of wiitwd. (see here) The traditional fundementals were never SSC... BDSM has been around since humans could hold a stick - this term only came about in around 30(ish) years or so ago. It's a nice respectable slogan that tries to steer SM away from defined abuse for people outside wiitwd. But what is sane and what is safe? I would hardly call asphyxiation 'sane'... but I do it. Most people would see it as less than safe, yet given the right medical care and instruction, it isn't safe, but at least there is an awareness. Some people would see facials as humiliating and insane. Others find scat or any watersports as both unsafe and totally mad, but they exist. My personal opinion is I would never consider scening with someone who quoted SSC as their mantra and saw it as fundamental to Bdsm... as I have seen it used by more people who have no understanding of it's concept than those that do. The only definable word is consensual. Without mutal consent of all parties, play/scenes/relationships are nothing short of abuse. Peace and Rapture Thank you, da. i myself have had lingering confusion over all these acronyms, especially since no one seems to agree on their meaning. pinkee

Sinergy -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/29/2006 5:34:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei What, if any, are the fundamentals of BDSM? Hello A/all, Im one of those weird people who think the answer to a question like this varies from person to person, dynamic to dynamic, and possibly even season to season. Just me, could be wrong, but there you go. Sinergy

pinkee -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (5/29/2006 5:52:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darkinshadows From my understanding - consensuality and respect for the differing opinions and desires of individuals. Everything else (pain, risk, sexual preference et al) is subjective. Peace and Rapture To me, it's a Great Respect for and Trust in a Man....that creates possibilites. pinkee

dogobedience -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (6/1/2006 5:24:37 PM)
I believe the primary one is education, pracitice, sharing, education, and then more education. Take this lifestyle like any other thing in life, study, apply your knowledge and share to help others if they desire it.

ExistentialSteel -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (6/2/2006 3:46:31 AM)
The basic principle that makes someone a Dom or sub comes about when he/she understands that many have D/s kinks and doesn’t use the kinks as a personal judgment of these people. It is an awareness that results in respect for the person. In my case I could whip and use a sub in an artistic D/s scene while truly believing that she is a good person. It is that ability to separate what is often seen as a weak perversion by the vanilla community from the valuation of the person. It even gives the submissive self respect when she is able to perform well. One way to see the difference is to think about men who use women roughly without respect while viewing them as morally inferior to women without kink. Abusers and pimps come to mind. Compare these men to Doms who demand obedience and use the women roughly while giving the women absolute respect because they understand, compartmentalize play and actually feel a kinship to these submissive women because of their own kink. Everything flows from this awareness and respect.

sorbet -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (6/2/2006 4:26:50 AM)
From everything I have been learning, the fundamentals would be consent and trust. sorbet

Sheikh -> RE: BDSM fundamentals (6/2/2006 4:37:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei Yagyu Shrinkage Oh. quote: ORIGINAL: Bugei but a very long time ago Did it grow back?

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