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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/10/2011 12:49:37 PM   
Hillwilliam


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Please quit listening to the "they pay no tax" rhetoric. Its used to derail, nothing more.

I'm just pointing out that it is utter bullshit. (I was nice to wilbur ok)

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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/10/2011 12:51:02 PM   
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They wont. Because they pay bills with their refunds. That was the problem with the 300 dollar check most people got a few years back. The majority went to bills, not really extra spending. 300 was a piss in the bucket. Not enough to do anything with. It was a waste. Giving back the few bucks people spend into taxes beyond FICA wont help either. Its dribble drabs and wet stones. Better they get a refund check at the end of the year.

Companies are waiting for the economy to "turn around" before they hire. It wont "turn around" until they do hire. Its becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy.


Every point made....well said. 



The last one is wrong. They arent waiting for the economy to turn around. They are waiting for the unfriendly business environment created by DC to turn around. As one of the business show pundits said, AFTER I said it here, The economy will start to turn around on November 6, 2012 when Obama is defeated and the GOP takes the Senate.

Lies.

Just for fun, why don't you name or link to anything the Obama administration has done that has created an unfriendly business climate.


You have to be kidding.

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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/10/2011 12:52:24 PM   
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What would happen if the personal exemption was raised to the poverty line?



Huh? for everybody? Nearly 50% pay no taxes at all, so if you mean only for them, it accomplishes nothing. If you mean for everyone, It would be a huge boon to the middle class especially, but how are you going to make up the lost revenue?


No taxes at all huh?

They don't pay any sales tax, Property tax, utility tax, state income tax, Alcohol tax, tobacco tax, Gas tax, personal property tax, automobile tax, ammunition tax, building permit tax, Drivers license tax, Dog license tax, Telephone user tax, Hunting and fishing license tax, Garbage tax, heating oil tax, lodging tax, marriage license tax, professional privelege tax, Real estate Tax, Deed tax and several dozen more.

Come on man, you're smarter than that. Next time Foxnews.com or the Drudge report feeds you some pablum to eat, you would do well to examine it before you swallow. I might just be full of Santorum. http://spreadingsantorum.com/


Come on man you read better than that. I was responding to a post about the PERSONAL EXEMPTION, which refers to INCOME TAXES and nothing else.

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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/10/2011 12:59:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Please quit listening to the "they pay no tax" rhetoric. Its used to derail, nothing more.

I'm just pointing out that it is utter bullshit. (I was nice to wilbur ok)


Ok ok ok

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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/10/2011 2:18:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: FrostedFlake

What would happen if the personal exemption was raised to the poverty line?



Huh? for everybody? Nearly 50% pay no taxes at all, so if you mean only for them, it accomplishes nothing. If you mean for everyone, It would be a huge boon to the middle class especially, but how are you going to make up the lost revenue?


No taxes at all huh?

They don't pay any sales tax, Property tax, utility tax, state income tax, Alcohol tax, tobacco tax, Gas tax, personal property tax, automobile tax, ammunition tax, building permit tax, Drivers license tax, Dog license tax, Telephone user tax, Hunting and fishing license tax, Garbage tax, heating oil tax, lodging tax, marriage license tax, professional privelege tax, Real estate Tax, Deed tax and several dozen more.

Come on man, you're smarter than that. Next time Foxnews.com or the Drudge report feeds you some pablum to eat, you would do well to examine it before you swallow. I might just be full of Santorum. http://spreadingsantorum.com/


Come on man you read better than that. I was responding to a post about the PERSONAL EXEMPTION, which refers to INCOME TAXES and nothing else.

You said "nearly 50% pay no taxes at all." That is somthing that Drudge ad other Right wing media love to say which is utter bullshit. I was just pointing out that everyone is taxed to death whether rich or poor. The wealthy are just better at dodging it..

Ya gotta admit, your post was a wee bit misleading. but then again, it's P&R in which most everything is misleading.

Look at the bright side. At least I didn't act like another poster and start the huge all caps liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar liar crap.

Because you generally do your best not to be.

< Message edited by Hillwilliam -- 12/10/2011 2:19:01 PM >


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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/10/2011 2:20:24 PM   
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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/10/2011 2:36:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

They wont. Because they pay bills with their refunds. That was the problem with the 300 dollar check most people got a few years back. The majority went to bills, not really extra spending. 300 was a piss in the bucket. Not enough to do anything with. It was a waste. Giving back the few bucks people spend into taxes beyond FICA wont help either. Its dribble drabs and wet stones. Better they get a refund check at the end of the year.

Companies are waiting for the economy to "turn around" before they hire. It wont "turn around" until they do hire. Its becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy.


Every point made....well said. 



The last one is wrong. They arent waiting for the economy to turn around. They are waiting for the unfriendly business environment created by DC to turn around. As one of the business show pundits said, AFTER I said it here, The economy will start to turn around on November 6, 2012 when Obama is defeated and the GOP takes the Senate.

Lies.

Just for fun, why don't you name or link to anything the Obama administration has done that has created an unfriendly business climate.


You have to be kidding.

So as usual you were making shit up. Why don't you apply for job writing Rush's schtick? You're funnier than his present writers and the dumbing down of the jokes would hardly be noticeable.

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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/10/2011 3:44:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: FrostedFlake

What would happen if the personal exemption was raised to the poverty line?



Huh? for everybody? Nearly 50% pay no taxes at all, so if you mean only for them, it accomplishes nothing. If you mean for everyone, It would be a huge boon to the middle class especially, but how are you going to make up the lost revenue?


No taxes at all huh?

They don't pay any sales tax, Property tax, utility tax, state income tax, Alcohol tax, tobacco tax, Gas tax, personal property tax, automobile tax, ammunition tax, building permit tax, Drivers license tax, Dog license tax, Telephone user tax, Hunting and fishing license tax, Garbage tax, heating oil tax, lodging tax, marriage license tax, professional privelege tax, Real estate Tax, Deed tax and several dozen more.

Come on man, you're smarter than that. Next time Foxnews.com or the Drudge report feeds you some pablum to eat, you would do well to examine it before you swallow. I might just be full of Santorum. http://spreadingsantorum.com/


Come on man you read better than that. I was responding to a post about the PERSONAL EXEMPTION, which refers to INCOME TAXES and nothing else.

You said "nearly 50% pay no taxes at all." That is somthing that Drudge ad other Right wing media love to say which is utter bullshit. I was just pointing out that everyone is taxed to death whether rich or poor. The wealthy are just better at dodging it..

Ya gotta admit, your post was a wee bit misleading. but then again, it's P&R in which most everything is misleading.



Because you generally do your best not to be.


Yes, it was, it was a brief moment of insanity to forget that not everyone here is skilled enough a reader to understand context and that some who can would intentionally ignore it. (Not you, she knows who she is).

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RE: Capital Strike?!? - 12/12/2011 7:50:59 AM   
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Unfortunately, there's not much the feds can do about it except to spend money they don't have.




But there is plenty Congress and Obama could do about it. Unfortunately they want to play the blame Republicans game instead of actually doing things to improve the economy, like the 20+ jobs enabling bills that Dirty Harry is blocking from a vote.


Among the 20+ 'jobs' bills (as I have pointed out using the house abstracts of what the bill is about, are the rat-poison republican bill and the mercury-poisoning republican bills...and not much else that would be jobs creating.

So, lets give that asswipe a fuckin rest.  Corporate Appeasment doesn't create jobs in the US. 

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