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MadAxeman -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 1:54:49 PM)

And you believe that gravity works one way at high tide, then flips around for low tide? Get some contradiction in your life, you talk absolute bollocks.
You typing it doesn't 'make it so'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide
Quite funny that someone with your nickname should mention 'tautology'
Why don't you create another sock called 'Hubris'

I was unaware that you were such an avid reader of women's magazines.
Which are your favourites?



PeonForHer -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 2:16:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
My point is you're talking utter nonsense.  This tendency toward mystical mumbo-jumbo explanations for everyday events is the kind of superstitious nonsense propagated by women's magazines and dodgy clairvoyants.   Mind you the phrase 'dodgy clairvoyants' is a tautology, but, amazingly, some people still embrace their nonsensical ravings.


For Christ's sake, Awareness, this is Stella you're talking to. She doesn't 'do stupid'. I know about nit-witted females who'll gulp down any air-headed new age drivel, but you've missed your mark here.



tj444 -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 2:36:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
~ Fast Reply ~
Serious question here - for those who say they are not affected emotionally in any way by what they read and post here, are you affected or unaffected by books?  I know I can relate to fictional characters in books, even cry during touching parts, laugh during funny parts, route for the good guy, etc.  And that's just fiction.  I have similar responses in message boards (be it fact or fiction as it may be), so I wonder how others compare.  So I wonder when people say "just pixels on a screen - means nothing", do you not read books?  Do you not feel anything while reading books? Is it just print on a page?

When i was a child i decided there were too many books in the world for me to read so i made a very hard decision... my decision was that i would read only non-fiction books as they teach me about whatever their subject is, so that is all i read.. usually on specific subjects which tend to be my primary focus..

so yes, i am affected by books but not emotionally, only intellectually..

since you asked.. [:)]



Hippiekinkster -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 2:40:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MadAxeman

And you believe that gravity works one way at high tide, then flips around for low tide? Get some contradiction in your life, you talk absolute bollocks.
You typing it doesn't 'make it so'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide
Quite funny that someone with your nickname should mention 'tautology'
Why don't you create another sock called 'Hubris'

I was unaware that you were such an avid reader of women's magazines.
Which are your favourites?

I'll bet you an ale that he's really Welsh. [8D]



tj444 -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 2:52:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep
I don't like the way the "non-feeling, non-emoting" stance is generally seen as "superior" in these types of conversations. It's different, but someone who does feel for people isn't an idiot, or a dork with too much time on his/her hands. People really are just, quite simply, DIFFERENT.

I dont see it as being superior, i see it as being objective, being able to look at the pros and cons of an issue, it may not change ones end opinion from the original opinion but, for me that is not the point of discussions.. The point for me is to make me think, to make me aware of points unknown to me previously, to perhaps apply that info in a different way.. and if it is an issue or info that arouses my curiosity, for me to learn more on my own about it over time..

Reasons why i prefer to keep emotions at bay as much as possible are that they cloud issues, push peoples buttons (not necessarily in a good way) and at some times lead to unwarranted personal attacks and insults (which add nothing to the discussion at all)..



DaddySatyr -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 3:06:10 PM)

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said (in Detroit in 1963): "I submit that if a man has not found something he's willing to die for, he's unfit to live". I'm not suggesting that these boards should be or encompass our lives. I am saying that there are some subjects for which we should have a passion. Passion is an emotion. There are some subjects about which very few people can be dispassionate.

Ask a bible-thumping Christian about abortion. Ask a sports nut about their favorite team. Ask me about legalizing drugs (I dare ya!)

I think it is nearly impossible to completely remove emotion from any subject upon which you have actually formed an opinion.



Peace and comfort,



Michael



tazzygirl -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 3:27:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

~ Fast Reply ~

Serious question here - for those who say they are not affected emotionally in any way by what they read and post here, are you affected or unaffected by books?  I know I can relate to fictional characters in books, even cry during touching parts, laugh during funny parts, route for the good guy, etc.  And that's just fiction.  I have similar responses in message boards (be it fact or fiction as it may be), so I wonder how others compare.  So I wonder when people say "just pixels on a screen - means nothing", do you not read books?  Do you not feel anything while reading books? Is it just print on a page?




Some people are emotionally... stunted? I think thats a good word for it. Some are overly emotional... which isnt necessarily a bad thing. Some lie and put up a good front about not letting their emotions interfere with how they view things. Some will jump in with both feet only to find later they made a mistake and back out graciously. Some dont have that ability so they dont invest themselves at any level. And some are simply honest.

Depends on the person as to which they utilize.



tazzygirl -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 3:30:15 PM)

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I think it is nearly impossible to completely remove emotion from any subject upon which you have actually formed an opinion.


Dont say that on the Religion threads. You are irrational if you cannot divorce yourself from your emotions.



poise -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 8:04:04 PM)

All this scientific mumbo jumbo is making me hot. Does that qualify as an emotion?



Hippiekinkster -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 8:07:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: poise

All this scientific mumbo jumbo is making me hot. Does that qualify as an emotion?
Chick Horndogginess? Abso-frakkin-lutely.



tj444 -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/10/2011 8:28:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said (in Detroit in 1963): "I submit that if a man has not found something he's willing to die for, he's unfit to live". I'm not suggesting that these boards should be or encompass our lives. I am saying that there are some subjects for which we should have a passion. Passion is an emotion. There are some subjects about which very few people can be dispassionate.

Ask a bible-thumping Christian about abortion. Ask a sports nut about their favorite team. Ask me about legalizing drugs (I dare ya!)

I think it is nearly impossible to completely remove emotion from any subject upon which you have actually formed an opinion.

Peace and comfort,
Michael

Passion is something totally different (to me) and something i reserve for real life.. [8D]



gungadin09 -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 5:32:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
...Similarly, I don't understand how anyone can have deep, positive feelings or emotions, to a person they've only communicated with via the net. It's just not......real.....to me.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying I feel nothing. That would be a lie. But it has become apparent to me, that what I do feel is not the same as others. That is where the disconnect is.

Perhaps I really am weird...Why it's so important to 'feel' so much that is of no real consequence?


i'm the opposite.  i find myself overwhelmed with emotion a lot of the time, throughout life.  In fact, i have to keep reminding myself to put things in perspective. 

You're not weird.  You're just out on the edges of the bell curve.  (Or is that the definition of weird?  i don't know.)

pam



kdsub -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 6:23:00 AM)

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i find myself overwhelmed with emotion a lot of the time, throughout life. In fact, i have to keep reminding myself to put things in perspective.


pam this surprises me...I've always found your posts thoughtful, interesting, and to the point but not particularly emotional…It just shows how hard it is to get a true picture of someone without observing body language.

My mother is very emotional as well but I’ve found in the end she has more wisdom than I and her emotion is just part of her process of dealing with life. She almost invariably makes the right decisions in the end and that is what’s important.

People seem to believe that emotional people are not as good at dealing with life in general and I believe this is wrong.

Butch



DaddySatyr -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 6:53:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Dont say that on the Religion threads. You are irrational if you cannot divorce yourself from your emotions.


That's pretty funny! Religion is almost pure emotion since the existence of God cannot be proven by scientific fact. LOL!

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ORIGINAL: tj444
Passion is something totally different (to me) and something i reserve for real life.. [8D]


Passion is "totally different " than emotion? Huh?



Peace and comfort,



Michael



stellauk -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 7:05:01 AM)

This is Lacrimosa from 'Requiem for a friend' by Zbigniew Preisner written after the death of his friend Polish film director Krzysztof Kieslowski.

If you listen to this music I'm fairly sure you will feel some sort of emotion.

Years back in a theatre workshop I would divide participants into two groups and hand them a list of names. At the top of the list on the paper handed to one group there was a title 'Residents of the Warsaw Ghetto transported to Treblinka.'

I would get each participant to read out the names from the list. There would be minor differences in emotion and projection, but more significant difference from those who thought they were reading a list of names of people who had died at Treblinka.

The names were of people unknown to the participants. Perhaps some of you might not have heard of Zbigniew Preisner, or of Requiem for a friend.

It doesn't matter. We are talking about expression and communication from one human being to another, and irrespective of whether it's music in a movie, something said by an actor in a movie, something written online, or something said to your face.

If you relate to it, it will usually evoke some sort of emotion in you.



tj444 -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 7:13:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
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ORIGINAL: tj444
Passion is something totally different (to me) and something i reserve for real life.. [8D]


Passion is "totally different " than emotion? Huh?

Peace and comfort,
Michael

as I said.. to me it is. Passion = drive, its sustaining
I certainly dont talk about my passions on here.. no reason to anyway..



tazzygirl -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 7:15:48 AM)

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That's pretty funny! Religion is almost pure emotion since the existence of God cannot be proven by scientific fact. LOL!


Recently it was mentioned that to make a rational decision, one must divorce themselves from their emotions.

The religion bit we can leave for those boards.



DaddySatyr -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 7:24:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tj444
as I said.. to me it is. Passion = drive, its sustaining
I certainly dont talk about my passions on here.. no reason to anyway..


The statement alone blew my mind. I read the "to me" part. I just can't fathom it. I always thought that "passion" meant pretty much the same thing to everyone.

Don't get me wrong. I understand that your assertion that issues can be discussed and debated without any emotion is a difficult one to defend. I just thought there was something other than discrediting the very definition of "emotion".

I promise, I am trying to understand because the concept is alien to me. I have always been very passionate about many things. I truly am curious how one makes their beliefs/opinions/viewpoints known ... hell, I'm wondering how one forms their beliefs/opinions/viewpoints without some amount of emotion.

As I said in a previous post: If you asked me to give you an assessment about migrant farm workers' rights in Southern California, I'd have to go and do some research because I know nothing about the subject but, between reading articles, laws, etc. and giving you my opinion, I'd have to decide how I felt about the data I'd absorbed (Do I believe the data, to begin with).



Peace and comfort,



Michael

Edited to add: There are plenty of issues about which I don't care. Therefore, I have no opinion and no amount of emotion but on any issue that I've formed an opinion, I realize that a certain amount of emotion went into my thought process of forming that opinion.



littlewonder -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 7:50:37 AM)

For me divorcing passion from emotions is simple. I don't debate. I state.

Meaning, I will say what I believe and then walk away. I don't care what others think. What matters to me is what I think.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interactions? (12/11/2011 7:52:55 AM)

Some things I feel strongly about, I don't talk about here. But other things, things I am passionate about, like art or music, or junk like that, yeah, I'll talk about those.
I'm aware that I can get emotionally involved, so I try to avoid hot-button issues here. I don't spend too much time in P&R, for example. I don't feel that I have to separate myself from my emotions to post here, I just exercise self-control and TRY to avoid things that will set me off.

I don't always succeed -- I've gotten into snip-fits with people here before, and then thought "why am I putting so much energy there?" So, I try to avoid those things, just because I don't generally like confrontation anyway, and I would just rather everyone had a really nice day. :p



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