Aneirin
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From: Tamaris
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What I get from this is Britain especially the English are not liked, it is a historical thing, but mainland Europe needs Britain because of it's financial capabilities and it's military prowess, the question to me, is do we as Britons need Europe, are they that useful to our society and economy ?
On a society level, we are told what to do by Europe, immigrants being the biggest problem the too rapid dilution of our society and it is this that the man on the street reacts to the most, as incomers equal the very real fear of the lack of job opportunities and a place to live, because Europe tells us we have to accept unsustainable immigration and provide what immigrants need to live, where the indigenous people seem not to have such powerful laws to protect them. I have been homeless, when I came out of the armed forces I was homeless and I saw for myself derelict houses being made habitable for immigrants, but nothing for myself, I simply did not qualify, and I had served my country.
But what caused all this, maybe the west has been living on borrowed time, we have been sustaining our lifestyle via borrowing instead of manufacture and trade, seeing as our industry was moved to where it is cheaper to produce, the outsourcing idea, but of outsourcing who did it, was it the nation, or was it individuals, for it sure seems to me our industry is stuffed because individuals sought to get rich, but then again why not considering the power of the unions in British industry who can and did bring the country to a standstill on a few occasions, I vaguely remember the 1970's, certainly the strikes where refuse piled up on street corners and the dead did not get buried, but why did the unions act like that, was it in the face of unfairness from the owners, if it was, then what I see here is Britain as it always was, unable to communicate without hostility through the classes, we have a long history of that and Britain's politics reflected that fact, workers were normally Labour and owners were normally Conservative, the two as ever refusing to work together and that because that is how Britain was created, the privileged few ruling the masses in the past by wealth and there force of arms. So as a nation we fought and fought and now we have lost it all, the owners have taken our industries overseas and we have been living a lie since, sustaining our lifestyle by borrowing made easy by the hawkish financial industries.
So where do we go from here, well sense to me says decentralise and look to our own country starting with maintaining our borders and there rekindle industry if we can, sure it will be tough going, people won't be happy with our reduced lifestyle, but to independently survive, we must live within our means and that nationally means our governments keeps it's noses out of other country's affairs and not waste our resources in other country's squabbles that do nothing but indebt the populace often for the benefit of the few, so chuck our idealism, it is not sustainable, only wealthy country's can have the luxury of idealism.
So my thoughts are basically, to get out of Europe and start running our own affairs, this of course will provide a lot of negativities, as European membership does provide a lot of good, but for the survival of our country, we are going to have to bite the bullet and elect people that serve us not private entities.
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