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Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/12/2011 10:42:53 PM   
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lol What an ***AWFUL*** idea!!! Right from the gitgo!
Boy, the "smart people" have been fucking up big time in the last decade.

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/12/2011 10:47:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Koyoto was always doomed to fail.. It never made any sense.



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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 1:06:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Canada has a very valid point, so I don't blame them.

It's all a money game I believe really designed to inhibit up coming economies.

Pollution control is self motivated through health, therefore health is the measure of productivity.

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 3:12:53 AM   
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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 4:55:47 PM   
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No point anyone being in it while the worlds two biggest polluters stay out of it.




Yeah, and do you think for one minute that China and Brazil are going to invest a trillion dollars in anything that helps keep polution down?

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 5:03:24 PM   
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No point anyone being in it while the worlds two biggest polluters stay out of it.




Yeah, and do you think for one minute that China and Brazil are going to invest a trillion dollars in anything that helps keep polution down?



So whats your answer..........destroy the planet ?

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 5:07:26 PM   
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Stay away from the "End Is Near" cults, they just want your money

Al Gore is making a killing off his "green" investments, for example


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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 5:07:33 PM   
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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 5:33:27 PM   
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Even Harper finally realizes AGW is a hoax.

Harper was always critical of Koyoto, well before he was elected as PM, it was the Liberals that signed Canada on that thing..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_Harper_government

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 5:43:50 PM   
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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 6:17:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		because of bush is the reason we are pulling out now
the ignorant arrogance from the Chinese and the US is what killed it
Plus Harper was NEVER a fan
SO try going towards the reality.
it needed the US and china to do SOMETHING, not ignore what is going on
Using Gore as the boogedy man is childish ignorance but shows the mentality of the deniers

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 6:28:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe if something is right you do it despite what someone else does…the same goes for nations... The very reason Canada pulled out is the same reason Bush did…The plan would not be administered equally and that would put some economies at a disadvantage. The only way this would work is if all were governed by exactly the same rules and regulations be it industrial or third world economies.

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 6:34:26 PM   
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what is the POINT
I guess Im not articulating the sarcasm properly
ah well




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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 6:44:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		You should look into this a little closer before using sarcasm... Under the proposed European plan China and India would not be held to the same standards as the US... This disparity is no different than the Canadian view...at least with the current more conservative government.

Now personally I want ALL nations to follow the same rules and regulations that would have been imposed on the US…I believe in global warming and if wrong I still believe in clean air for my grandchildren.


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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 6:46:56 PM   
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I guess I need not reiterate my point after my advocation of "dirty zones" in this country.

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 7:00:20 PM   
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You should look into this a little closer before using sarcasm... Under the proposed European plan China and India would not be held to the same standards as the US... This disparity is no different than the Canadian view...at least with the current more conservative government.

Now personally I want ALL nations to follow the same rules and regulations that would have been imposed on the US…I believe in global warming and if wrong I still believe in clean air for my grandchildren.


Butch

my sarcasm is exactly because I have been following it.
That excuse is a really useless, shitty excuse. But expected.
Im pissed at the canadian government , Im pissed at a whole bunch of people, but the apathy and denial from is what pisses me off more

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 7:10:04 PM   
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Under the proposed European plan China and India would not be held to the same standards as the US... This disparity is no different than the Canadian view...at least with the current more conservative government.

Now personally I want ALL nations to follow the same rules and regulations that would have been imposed on the US…I believe in global warming and if wrong I still believe in clean air for my grandchildren.


Butch


I'm sorry but regarding global warming: If global warming is an actual occurance and if the figures regarding the causes of the effect ("greenhouse gases", I believe they're called?) then it is laughable for a nation of SUV drivers should tell a nation of bicycle riders that they need to "step up".



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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 7:13:36 PM   
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Even Harper finally realizes AGW is a hoax.

Harper was always critical of Koyoto, well before he was elected as PM, it was the Liberals that signed Canada on that thing..




Unfortunately, the Canadian libs were too busy snarking in US politics to pay attention to who was getting elected in their own country. Whoops!

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOYO". - 12/13/2011 7:16:11 PM   
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whats your excuse for allowing Obama to win?

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RE: Canada pulls out of "KYOTO". - 12/13/2011 7:17:32 PM   
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my sarcasm is exactly because I have been following it.
That excuse is a really useless, shitty excuse. But expected.
Im pissed at the canadian government , Im pissed at a whole bunch of people, but the apathy and denial from is what pisses me off more

then you should be pissed the right govt which is the Liberal govt, PM Chretien in particular. He apparently signed kyoto without consulting parliment or even his own party.. And then the prick and Liberals sat on their hands, year after year, not lifting a finger to meet kyoto protocols. By the time Harper was elected, in a precarious minority govt, the goals were so far gone that they were unattainable.. I remember this.

"On taking office in 2007, Stephen Harper's government found their predecessors, for all their green rhetoric, had done little to cut Canada's emissions."

"He said meeting Canada's obligations under Kyoto would cost $13.6bn (10.3bn euros; £8.7bn): "That's $1,600 from every Canadian family - that's the Kyoto cost to Canadians, that was the legacy of an incompetent Liberal government"."

"Canada's current pledge is exactly the same as the US one - a cut of 17% from 2005 levels by 2020"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16151310

Here is PM Chretien in action.. assault apparently is a ok.. (I personally think he was going bonkers/senile). I am not sure that this incident was the only time either..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvjfJ6bAi0U

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