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xxblushesxx -> Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:03:14 PM)

Enquiring minds want to know.

I've got a bit of the brat thing going on when I play myself, and also when I play other "characters". In fact, one of my most popular characters has the words Princess and Brat (and another word or two) in her name. She's young and cute, she's also funny, demanding, very into herself, and of course, it's all about HER.

Most of the people who call her are older men, but there are younger ones as well. She's had a $300. comforter set sent to her, shoes, shoes and more shoes, and lots of tributes (many in the hundreds, but none in the thousands...unless you add up what men spend altogether (as an individual) instead of each time.)

I have had several men recently calling my personal findom line and begging to "serve" me. They tell me they want to serve a "cruel greedy goddess" (one man's words, not mine) and want to be used and humiliated. I just laugh at them, tease them, and tell them what to do. There are many men into the "idea" of serving one financially, (who get sexually excited thinking about it and talking about it, but would never actually do it.) There are also men who can only get off doing the real thing.

I know other ladies who use the same business type model. Goddess Posh, Call Envy, Brat Mindy, and Veronica Deville come to mind. What I've found to be the thing that separates the brats from the "successful brats", has been intelligence, a willingness to put in hours of hard work promoting, and a strong will to succeed.

Many think they can make a listing, put out a call for piggies, and they'll all come squealing to you. It really doesn't work like that. You have to get to know people in the community. You have to get your name out there. You have to participate in forums and let people see your particular style. At that point, you don't have to put an ad up someplace it doesn't belong, because those who are ready and are interested will find you.

So yeah, sometimes the brat approach works. But it has to have intelligence and a bit of wit to back it up. Often times it doesn't. That's because many don't realize that saying send me money because I deserve it and you don't is just the tip of a very large iceburg. I hope that helps.



Whenready -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:14:05 PM)

This enquiring mind isn't remotely interested in bratty or pwincesses. I thought adverts were supposed to be in the relevant section and not self aggrandisement in the fora. Ah well...



xxblushesxx -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:26:14 PM)

Honestly, I posted this because someone was questioning it and I thought it was an honest question and one that deserved the best answer I could give. I do know a bit about this.



xxblushesxx -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:27:22 PM)

If anyone believes this is an advert, please report it and ask the mods to remove it. I have no stake in this.



Rochsub2009 -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:28:35 PM)

Personally, I hate the bratty princess "Dommes".  I understand that there are people out there who are into that, but I'm definitely not one of them.

I have absolutely no problem with financial Dommes.  In fact, I think financial Dommes serve an important need.  But the problem that I have with the bratty princesses is that they spoil it for the good financial Dommes.  And there seem to be a whole lot more bad bratty princesses than good financial Dommes.

The bad ones tend to be between 18-23 years old.  Yet, they inevitably say that they have 10 years of experience as a Domme.  [8|]

Another trait that I've noticed of the bad ones is that they are inevitably flipping us the bird in their profile picture.  And if they're not giving us the finger, then they're holding a handful of cash.  What insta-Domme school did they all go to to learn this same stereotypical way of presenting themselves?

Who knew that being a Domme was so easy?  Apparently, all you have to do is take a picture of yourself giving viewers the finger, post a Wish List, and the "pay piggies" will come running. 

I think I'm going to create a bratty princess profile.  I could use the extra cash.  [;)]



JanahX -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:29:10 PM)

I can see how this could be a discussion - in the BDSM context fetish of "bratty princess tops and the people who love/hate them" So not sure why you see this as self advertising. She obviously has started a discussion about it and why or why not someone would or would not be attracted to it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Whenready

This enquiring mind isn't remotely interested in bratty or pwincesses. I thought adverts were supposed to be in the relevant section and not self aggrandisement in the fora. Ah well...




Rochsub2009 -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:31:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

If anyone believes this is an advert, please report it and ask the mods to remove it. I have no stake in this.


I just saw the reply to your post.  Don't worry.  We all know you around here.  That was definitely not an advertisement.

Frankly, if you were advertising, you would have done a much better job than that.  [;)]



BKSir -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:33:14 PM)

Conversely, the bratty princess subs also... Not "topping from the bottom", so to speak, but, subs that are less demanding than the D type you are talking about. But subs that are sort of guided in that direction by D's that like to spoil their subs and for their subs to have a bit of sass (not enough that they end up having their D put them in a cold shower for a couple minutes though).



Lucylastic -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:37:58 PM)

I appreciated it Blushes n not cos I lubs you.
General response:
For every guy that dislikes bratty Dommes, theres a guy that loves em
Its the same for every kink out there. Bratty or Bitch or Leather Dommes who declare one worthless are just as popular as they ever were. The delivery services are different, expectations and reality(like recessions) are pretty much the same, and an aloof, bratty, demanding and or bitchy domme, is what many men "Want".
Just because it doesnt fall into a "LTR" doesnt make it any less real or any less in demand.
YMMV




MissKittyDeVine -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:43:11 PM)

It was me who asked the question, so Blushes´ OP was very interesting. Because what I was wondering is that surely there has to be a bit more to it than simply saying ´Piggies, give me your money´ - ie, that there has to be some substance to back it up. I see too many profiles of the kind that most of us would classify as Instadommes to believe that it works every time. And as they say, if it was that easy, we´d all do it.



MissAsylum -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:45:14 PM)

I agree with everything you've said blushie.

But i'm more commenting because i loves me some Veronica lol



kalikshama -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:47:54 PM)

quote:

This enquiring mind isn't remotely interested in bratty or pwincesses. I thought adverts were supposed to be in the relevant section and not self aggrandisement in the fora. Ah well...


This Q was posed on an intro thread and blushes appropriately moved the convo here.

I'm curious too - brats - how's it working for you? Pay piggies - what's the attraction? Do you actually give it up or just fantasize about it?



LillyBoPeep -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:49:30 PM)

It's an interesting topic - it was spawned out of an ad in the introductionnn section that went horribly awry...

My experience is mostly to do with female subs who engage in this behavior. In a way, I can see how it would work for a Dominant. Being bossy or bratty blah blah blah.
But it's like the equivalent of a domineering man, though - not the same as a Dominant man.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:51:33 PM)

Do you know that Veronica and Call Envy live in the same town I do? Envy is less than five minutes away!



xxblushesxx -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 12:52:51 PM)

Ok, and as a sub I'm bratty as well...kind of in a fun way though.



LillyBoPeep -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 1:01:05 PM)

I don't really get it there, either. It's usually said as "oh, I'm just playful and fiesty, or I'm witty and smart," but those things aren't exclusive to brats.
It's just not something I can relate to. I'm sure it's great for people who enjoy it. I just don't get it.



xxblushesxx -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 1:09:44 PM)

The brat thing (on either side) is difficult to explain. It by no means comes from a lack of respect...more of a love of life, and a certain childlike way of viewing the world. I'd probably have to go see a therapist to explain it correctly. *lol* I do have fun, and those around me have fun, whether it's the norm or what's expected or not. Maybe later I can go further with this.



kalikshama -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 1:10:33 PM)

Apparently Veronica is not immune to flakes:

http://payupslaves.com/

Just a quick post to let everyone know I am alive!

Alive and frustrated to say the least!

I have been very discouraged at the perspectives who have been contacting Me for sessions.

Several of you seem to be contacting at a whim, then once I reply back I receive so many cancelations and sometimes no response at all.

This time of the year is no joke for those of us who only do this for a living. I have no other source of income. I do not slave away like pigs at a 9-5 job.

My “job” is not a job at all. This is My passion, and My drive.

Some of you may be playing some sort of game when you contact Me, but I can read right through it.



Ishtarr -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 1:21:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I have had several men recently calling my personal findom line and begging to "serve" me. They tell me they want to serve a "cruel greedy goddess" (one man's words, not mine) and want to be used and humiliated. I just laugh at them, tease them, and tell them what to do. There are many men into the "idea" of serving one financially, (who get sexually excited thinking about it and talking about it, but would never actually do it.) There are also men who can only get off doing the real thing.



What I'm curious about is: do you have any ethical limits for yourself that you won't cross?

I read some of your blog, and you talk at length about how you without prior agreement started to blackmail elaine, to the point that you're disallowing him to take a couple days off, and are threatening to seriously interfere in the relationship he has with his wife, in a way that very well could end up breaking up his marriage.

I know that if a guy wants to have outside flings, he's going to do so, if not with you then with somebody else. But I'm wondering how far you personally would push it, considering that you're the one he picked.

Would you really push him to financial ruin, even if he drags his wife -who is non-consensually involved in all of this- with him? I don't know if he's got kids or not, but if he does, would you make him spend money on you to the detriment of his own children?
Would you continue pushing activities and orders that make it likely that his wife will find out, even knowing that if she does, it would mean the end of his marriage?
Do you keep the welfare of those in his life in mind, when you order him to do things, or to pay more than he's willing or claims he can, or do you pretty much feel that it's not your responsibility if he ruins the life of those that depend on him to please you?
How do you decide where to draw the line, if there is a line you would draw?



LillyBoPeep -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 1:28:17 PM)

It's no problem, blushes. The "love of life" and "childlike view" aren't exclusive to brats either, though. I've experienced all of those things and I don't consider myself bratty. I guess I'm just curious about how people choose to label themselves that way. It's basically a "smart-assed masochist" thing, I guess?
I've just never felt that drive to challenge in that way.



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