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LillyBoPeep -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 5:13:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

It's an interesting topic - it was spawned out of an ad in the introductionnn section that went horribly awry...

My experience is mostly to do with female subs who engage in this behavior. In a way, I can see how it would work for a Dominant. Being bossy or bratty blah blah blah.
But it's like the equivalent of a domineering man, though - not the same as a Dominant man.




I don't think so. Looking at it from that standpoint you would also conclude that bratty princess subs aren't 'real' or 'true' because they aren't into service.

In many ways I see it more as a D/lg thing. Where the daughter isn't fully mature, and is bratty, and is daddy's little princess. I can see that with either the daddy or the daughter as the dominant or sub. I have to conclude that a daddy sub must be into humiliation on some level though. Or maybe that's the only way I can wrap my head around it?


Well yes, and no. :p
They are real within their own relationship, if that's what their Dominants want, and it's fulfilling to the both of them, and that's fine.
To me, they (well, at least most of the ones I've met) don't fit what I personnally consider a sub to be. But that's my own opinion and has nothing to do with anyone's relationships but my own. We all have an idea of what "real" meanns TO US, the problem is when people try to require others to function inn the same way.

I have wondered if the Dominannts who are into it have a humiliationn streak. Like at a party, when your girl is up flouncing around and acting a fool and climbing on equipment, and you tell her to stop and she smarts off to you while eeeveryone else is rolling their eyes - how could that not be humiliating?

I dunno, I try to get my head aroud itt, too.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 5:50:20 PM)

People should send you stuff, Lady Hib, because you deserve it!




xxblushesxx -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 6:08:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ishtarr


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

No, I would never completely financially ruin anyone. That's like killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
Most of what we do and talk about is fantasy. (except for the money and the gifts!)
A responsible findom knows what every man is capable of giving, and urges him accordingly.
Many findoms help the men who serve them come up with a budget they can live with.
As I said earlier, most men who are into this just want to talk about it. Some take it further. I cannot be responsible for everything they do, but I can get the info I need to know when to push and when not to.


So is the only reason you wouldn't financially ruin him to protect your own sake in his bank account, or is it more of an ethical boundary you've set for yourself?

Maybe this is too personal a question, but how much a month do you make on a guy like elaine?
I'm assuming the relationship is build up over time, so the amount is build up accordingly, but how much information do you have about his personal life that may aid you in determining what he's capable off?

I'm not trying to be judgement or anything -not sure if it comes across like I am- but financial domination and blackmail have fascinated me for a long time, and I've had these kinds of questions pop up in my head for a long time, every time the subject of financial domination pops up.


1. I would not financially ruin anyone for many reasons. I'd rather not go into all of them here. I'll tell you why on the other side if you like.

2. I don't talk about how much I make. I will say it can be variable depending on my guys.

3. I have quite a lot of info from the people who choose to be "blackmailed", because they pay for and fill out a form that asks a lot of questions, and they have to send me proof. The type of info I have is his name, (contact info) name and contact info of his friends, family, employers, how much he brings in, and what his expenses are per month. (and of course, very personal info, such as his fetishes, pictures of him indulging in them, etc.)

None of this has a lot to do with being a bratty findom, as many findoms will have answers the same or similar to these, but I did want to answer what I could. : )




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 6:16:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

People should send you stuff, Lady Hib, because you deserve it!


Yet they never do[&o]




xxblushesxx -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 6:58:58 PM)

I would send you stuff. 'Cause you is sweet.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/13/2011 7:07:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I would send you stuff. 'Cause you is sweet.



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SailingBum -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 2:30:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Ishtarr


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I have had several men recently calling my personal findom line and begging to "serve" me. They tell me they want to serve a "cruel greedy goddess" (one man's words, not mine) and want to be used and humiliated. I just laugh at them, tease them, and tell them what to do. There are many men into the "idea" of serving one financially, (who get sexually excited thinking about it and talking about it, but would never actually do it.) There are also men who can only get off doing the real thing.



What I'm curious about is: do you have any ethical limits for yourself that you won't cross?

I read some of your blog, and you talk at length about how you without prior agreement started to blackmail elaine, to the point that you're disallowing him to take a couple days off, and are threatening to seriously interfere in the relationship he has with his wife, in a way that very well could end up breaking up his marriage.

I know that if a guy wants to have outside flings, he's going to do so, if not with you then with somebody else. But I'm wondering how far you personally would push it, considering that you're the one he picked.

Would you really push him to financial ruin, even if he drags his wife -who is non-consensually involved in all of this- with him? I don't know if he's got kids or not, but if he does, would you make him spend money on you to the detriment of his own children?
Would you continue pushing activities and orders that make it likely that his wife will find out, even knowing that if she does, it would mean the end of his marriage?
Do you keep the welfare of those in his life in mind, when you order him to do things, or to pay more than he's willing or claims he can, or do you pretty much feel that it's not your responsibility if he ruins the life of those that depend on him to please you?
How do you decide where to draw the line, if there is a line you would draw?


I really couldn't believe it. xxblush is A attempting to ruin a marriage for money. B. It so moronic to actually admit to a crime <extortion> for everyone to see. Ive seen some real stupid stuff in my life and this rates up there....

I can imagine the conversation now. Atty "You did WHAT?" Dumbass "Oh hell ya I posted that he was going to quit callin." Atty " Well since you have already admitted to the crime writtin it out and posted it for everyone to see YOU are looking at 3 to 5 years. Dumbass "oh"

Some ppl really shouldn't breed. BadOne




ResidentSadist -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 3:23:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Why thank you Mr. Sadist Sir. I daresay if we met in real life, we'd have a good time getting to know one another. I've always appreciated you and your wit.

If we met in real life, we would have a blast.  Even if their was be a wake of blue faced brats strung out along the trail behind us.






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PeonForHer -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 4:42:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

People should send you stuff, Lady Hib, because you deserve it!


Yet they never do[&o]


Wrong.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 5:06:21 AM)

Wha?




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 8:31:15 AM)

OH~ (slow in the morning)




DesFIP -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 9:29:19 AM)

Hibbie, if someone sends you an extra office chair, can I have it? This one is on its last legs.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 11:05:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Hibbie, if someone sends you an extra office chair, can I have it? This one is on its last legs.


Mine are trashed! I busted one of the casters off my chair using it as a faux-wheelchair [&o] Who knew it couldnt go all the way down the hall to a clients and back after only ten years of being a chair!




Whenready -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 1:36:29 PM)

Pootles back in after a day to see the discussion has moved on - or back - or something.

Perhaps I misread the OP (whaddya mean I'm not perfect?) but the impression I got was "bratty princess - does it ever work? Here's what *I* do... " with an emphasis on *I*.

If I misread the mood or intent - my bad. Had the OP said "I've been asked if...." I might possibly have reacted differently. It came across (to me) as self aggrandisement - hence the advert comment. If it was irony, I missed it.

To go on to the expanded topic, brattiness seems to me to be "me me me". I find that intolerable. Others may like it - all well and good. A sub being bratty with me is finding the quickest route to the exit. Brattiness in dom/mes comes across to me as lack of self control - again - not my interest area. I can see a logical argument for brattiness in findom - gimme gimme gimme - but as I hope I indicated in my original response - it's not an area I have an interest in.

If it works for you - and harms noone (as distinct from hurts) then carry on. Ishtarr's thoughts on crossing lines open up some interesting thoughts - especially on consequences for the non consenting involved. For my other 2c, I'd rather see more on that than "gimme cos I deserve it"





LookieNoNookie -> RE: Does the Bratty Princess Thing Ever Work? (12/14/2011 5:32:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Enquiring minds want to know.

I've got a bit of the brat thing going on when I play myself, and also when I play other "characters". In fact, one of my most popular characters has the words Princess and Brat (and another word or two) in her name. She's young and cute, she's also funny, demanding, very into herself, and of course, it's all about HER.

Most of the people who call her are older men, but there are younger ones as well. She's had a $300. comforter set sent to her, shoes, shoes and more shoes, and lots of tributes (many in the hundreds, but none in the thousands...unless you add up what men spend altogether (as an individual) instead of each time.)

I have had several men recently calling my personal findom line and begging to "serve" me. They tell me they want to serve a "cruel greedy goddess" (one man's words, not mine) and want to be used and humiliated. I just laugh at them, tease them, and tell them what to do. There are many men into the "idea" of serving one financially, (who get sexually excited thinking about it and talking about it, but would never actually do it.) There are also men who can only get off doing the real thing.

I know other ladies who use the same business type model. Goddess Posh, Call Envy, Brat Mindy, and Veronica Deville come to mind. What I've found to be the thing that separates the brats from the "successful brats", has been intelligence, a willingness to put in hours of hard work promoting, and a strong will to succeed.

Many think they can make a listing, put out a call for piggies, and they'll all come squealing to you. It really doesn't work like that. You have to get to know people in the community. You have to get your name out there. You have to participate in forums and let people see your particular style. At that point, you don't have to put an ad up someplace it doesn't belong, because those who are ready and are interested will find you.

So yeah, sometimes the brat approach works. But it has to have intelligence and a bit of wit to back it up. Often times it doesn't. That's because many don't realize that saying send me money because I deserve it and you don't is just the tip of a very large iceburg. I hope that helps.


What you're doing is feeding fantasy....guys have an abundance of that (I'm a guy....I actually have some reference points on that).  There are guys that have fantasies about fucking a sheep while their Mom is watching (or someone's Mom), only to be caught (doing all the above) by their boss/wife/pastor, etc.

You asked a question....it's really not pertinent what the specific question was....ultimately it comes down to...."does________________work?" (on men).

The answer is (of course)...."Yes".

The funny (maybe it's sad) thing is....most men wonder why women seem to have an advantage over men, as to their psyche'.

They don't.

Men are just simply lazy.






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