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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 2:16:40 PM   
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It's not that they are covering their arses so much IMO rather it's a case of them not having the wit wisdom & experience in crisis management. Also a total lack of creativity in the system maintains stagnation of thought & a paucity of ideas

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 2:16:58 PM   
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I believe its based on the fact that its the day after the election and he is hoping for a republican victory and the world shall be saved!!!!
if Im wrong, well, it wouldnt be the first time, but Willbur is consistent

LaT... I was thinking more of a raspberry blower:) and you have some good points as aways:)

lol oh i see.. that makes sense... i dont think it makes a bit of difference who wins.. I am just glad I dont have a tv!


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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 2:18:40 PM   
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The beginning of the end of the recession is 11/6/2012

ok how do you figure that? what do you base that on?


Business is sitting on the sidelines waiting for the OA to end. As soon as his concession speech is over and the champagne bottles emptied the capital that no one will risk right now will begin to be committed.

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 2:19:24 PM   
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Greedy corporations are basically committing treason and our government is doing nothing to stop it.


Utter bullshit!

Let me ask this.......what are YOU doing to stop it???

You buy nothing that is not entirely made in the U.S.? You are willing to pay more for less? You are willing to work for lesser wages and have lesser benefits to keep the cost of goods down?

If you cannot answer yes to those questions then you are equally treasonous as you claim those evil corporations to be.


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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 2:19:25 PM   
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TJ< what did I say? see!!!!lmao

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 2:22:36 PM   
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The beginning of the end of the recession is 11/6/2012

ok how do you figure that? what do you base that on?

Business is sitting on the sidelines waiting for the OA to end. As soon as his concession speech is over and the champagne bottles emptied the capital that no one will risk right now will begin to be committed.

ok, I have heard that some business ventures have been put on hold but imo its not enough to make a great difference to the economy.. jmo tho..

So... what will these sideliners do if Obama is re-elected for another 4 years? will they continue to sit on the sideline?

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 2:25:12 PM   
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The beginning of the end of the recession is 11/6/2012

ok how do you figure that? what do you base that on?

Business is sitting on the sidelines waiting for the OA to end. As soon as his concession speech is over and the champagne bottles emptied the capital that no one will risk right now will begin to be committed.

ok, I have heard that some business ventures have been put on hold but imo its not enough to make a great difference to the economy.. jmo tho..

So... what will these sideliners do if Obama is re-elected for another 4 years? will they continue to sit on the sideline?


There is TRILLIONS sitting on the sidelines waiting to be committed. It will have a huge effect on the economy. And if Obama is reelected you can expect to see negative GDP growth for much of the 4 years and hundreds of thousands of layoffs as business is moved to other countries.

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 2:53:36 PM   
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Greedy corporations are basically committing treason and our government is doing nothing to stop it.


Utter bullshit!

Let me ask this.......what are YOU doing to stop it???

You buy nothing that is not entirely made in the U.S.?

It's very difficult to find products made in the US because greedy corporations outsourced so much manufacturing.

You are willing to pay more for less? You are willing to work for lesser wages and have lesser benefits to keep the cost of goods down?

I'm willing to pay more for more, not less. American made products are often higher quality than cheap foreign made crap. People are already working for lesser wages because their decent paying jobs were off-shored by greedy corporations. I seriously doubt they work for less because they want to. Cheap overseas labor has resulted in lower wages here. I think many Americans buy cheap products made in China and India because American made is hard to find.






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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 3:04:07 PM   
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"There is nothing treasonous about it, stop being such a drama queen."

You may think differently when you present your degree to your caseworker at the welfare office. NBZ is exactly correct, we need to make something and sell it, and that is what is being ignored here by politicians and big business alike.

And I don't remember who said it sarcastically about the "business clime" here but the low taxes are not enough.

We couldn't PAY some companies to open up here, and that is even with a permanent 100% tax deferment forever. They simply won't do it becdause for one, we do not have the incentive to work smart and be good empoyees. Present comany excepted but if you go look and see the people out there, many will just do the minimum rrquired. This is because the entire structure is fucked up. People are not rewarded for success. Failing to eward for succes does actually equal rewarding failure.

The fact of the matter is unfortunately that our workforce is inferior. Anyone don't like admitting that ? Figure out what to do about it. Social programs have made working less essential, and in some cases undesirable. If you can quit your job and get free medical care, why would anyone want to work ? And now healthcare equates to another tax on employers.

What I do personally is irrelevant, I simply work the system as presented. I'll fuck them out of every dime possible. But that's a pittance. Even our old family friend who depreciated some serious expenditures SERIOUSLY against the rules still only amounts to a pittance. He was told the risks and the forms were filled out, and here came the money. None of that means jack shit.

As long as people have the ability to steal they will. Men of bad instincts remember ? The state of Ohio is a laughingstock because of our road construction. Some people assert that it is due to the weather that we constantly have construction zones and closed roads under construction etc., but it is not due to the weather at all. First of all they are not built right in the first place, then they are not fixed right. This is bad enough but here's a little tidbit for those of you not behind the Buckeye Curtain - they used to rent those orange barrels from a private company for $13 per day. Alot of them, people call them our state tree.

Well the fact did become public a few years ago and the practice was stopped, but how much money was already wasted ? And now I wonder just how much they paid for what amounts to a bunch of fucking garbage cans. Well I guess their extreme value has been established by the exhorbitant rental rates of the past eh ? All nice and clean, above board.

Thirteen dollars a day is about $390 per month. That's over $3,000 per year. Now if the old rule of thub for rental realestate were applied of one percent per month rent, that makes each of those garbage cans worth what ?

What I am saying is that there is no way to stop this shit. As long as they have the power and there is no public oversight, these things will happen because you elect a bunch of goniffs.

You want me to vote for you bring beer, AND be wearing a tshirt, no tie. And don't be in a limo. And alot of other things becaused they will fake it when the time comes.

We need a revolution, not another fake election.

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 3:17:10 PM   
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A 25 year recession? Sure, why not? But I'd be more inclined to call it a depression. Hell, even Krugman used the D word last Monday in his NYT column. Until the TBTF are allowed to fail and the excesses (malinvestment) are cleared off the books there shall be no recovery. Matter of fact, if government(s) continue to inject stimulus the game shall soon be over. Critically, as in lethally, so. There won't be a scaled down Medicare or Social Security, a scaled down defense or a scaled down entitlement of your choice. Same goes for the EU.

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 3:30:10 PM   
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There is TRILLIONS sitting on the sidelines waiting to be committed. It will have a huge effect on the economy. And if Obama is reelected you can expect to see negative GDP growth for much of the 4 years and hundreds of thousands of layoffs as business is moved to other countries.


Correct. Where they shall be committed is unknown. Whether those trillions shall survive is questionable should we, and the EU and yes even Chiina, get a full blown economic collapse. Currently, as in TODAY!!! to get out of this mess the US must shrink government expenditures by 50%. That's across the board folks. Nothing is off the table.

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 3:36:50 PM   
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n what are you gonna do with all the people left homeless moneyless and starving?

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 3:48:32 PM   
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It's very difficult to find products made in the US because greedy corporations outsourced so much manufacturing.


I knew someone who endeavored to not buy anything made in China for a year - I'll see if I can find out the result.

This wasn't her but: http://www.amazon.com/Year-Without-Made-China-Adventure/dp/0470116137

"...a fascinating and entertaining look at just how much of a challenge an average consumer faces...to avoid buying Chinese goods."






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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 3:52:56 PM   
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When country's such as the U.S & Britain start to manufacture & export we'll see an end in sight of the recession.




we have exported the byproduct of manufacturing.

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 4:01:17 PM   
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n what are you gonna do with all the people left homeless moneyless and starving?


You really have no understanding of what (and why) is happening, do you? Most people don't so you're in good company.

Those who should find themselves homeless, moneyless, and possibly hungry shall be experiencing what was politically asked for over the past 30+ odd years. I really see no reason for anyone to be unhappy about it.



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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 4:06:56 PM   
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I DO understand what is happening, only tooo damn well, dont start making ignorant assumptions
and what" was politically asked for over the past 30 years" and why do you see no reason for anyone to be unhappy about it???



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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 4:31:47 PM   
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I DO understand what is happening, only tooo damn well, dont start making ignorant assumptions
and what" was politically asked for over the past 30 years" and why do you see no reason for anyone to be unhappy about it???



Oh, my assumptions would only be ignorant if I were incorrect. I'm not.

You should know what was asked for over the last 30 years, being the good liberal you are. Why should anyone be unhappy when one gets the consequence of what one asked for?




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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 4:50:07 PM   
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There is TRILLIONS sitting on the sidelines waiting to be committed. It will have a huge effect on the economy. And if Obama is reelected you can expect to see negative GDP growth for much of the 4 years and hundreds of thousands of layoffs as business is moved to other countries.

ok, we will see who wins and what happens after that.. I will be watching real closely after the election..

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 4:50:39 PM   
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yawns, if you cant answer honestly and with straightforward information instead of the arrogant ignorance, , then thanks for the insight and I shan't respond to you again.
Its not worth the contempt you are inspiring again

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RE: A 25-year recession...? - 12/15/2011 5:23:55 PM   
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There is TRILLIONS sitting on the sidelines waiting to be committed. It will have a huge effect on the economy. And if Obama is reelected you can expect to see negative GDP growth for much of the 4 years and hundreds of thousands of layoffs as business is moved to other countries.


Every post you make helps me to understand the hate I see on these boards.


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