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sheisreeds -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:07:13 PM)

For me it is anything that permanently changes the functioning of my or my partner's body.

Sprains, bruises, scars, etc is all ok, actually at this point they're normal.

My comfortable level with play effecting my body is something that has changed over time. One of my labia semi-accidentally was stretched by my dom boyfriend when I was 19. At the time I was kinda upset, and was completely not ok with any permanent marking or changes in my body from play.

These days on average I pick up at least 1 new scar a month, and injuries that follow me around for weeks.

I'm not ok with anything that permanently changes sensation, scars and marks I can't cover or provide a vanilla explanation for while at work. If I was doing a high risk scene that I totally wanted to do and broke a bone or lost a tooth, I probably wouldn't be upset (hell almost broke my nose last night).

I don't see any of this escalating to me wanting body parts chopped off. Today is more of a realization and comfort level of things I have craved for years.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
I regard the extreme weenies as try-hard.  It's pathetic... but I digress.


Thanks for the insult, and overly broad assumption.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Personally, anything which violates psychological or physiological integrity.  I see people talking about injuring each other and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out they're all kinds of fucked up.  People spend far too much time in a relativist maze with the final judgment being "Well they're happy" - which is kind of stupid.

In my case, there's an essential question which must be answered:  "Is this healthy?", with various considerations of physical and psychological health.  I suspect most practitioners either don't ask that question or don't possess anywhere near the capacity to answer it - and so they just ignore it.


These happen to be exactly the questions I ask myself. Friends of mine who play to similar degrees also ask themselves these questions. Friends who have gone a few steps further than I would go have put months and years into deciding what they are willing to do, why, and weighing the potential consequences.

I didn't just decide , "well I don't give a shit what happens" it was a long process of setting and communicating my limits. There was a lot of figuring me out involved.



JanahX -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:16:09 PM)

My fetish is asphyxiation. Considered by some: extreme.

The burst blood vessels in my eyes is a dead give away.

Extreme why? self explanatory.



sheisreeds -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:24:38 PM)

I hear yah.

And asphyxiation is actually a fetish for me too, though I don't entertain it as much or as severely because the risks don't jive with me.

However, I respect people who do.

It's all a matter of personal preference, self awareness, and education on risk and the consequence of the things we do.



Duskypearls -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:28:38 PM)

And then there's amputation obsession; such a baffling, interesting topic. If there is any validity to past life experiences, I wonder, and wouldn't it be interesting, to find out such people who craved amputations as having lost limbs in previous lives?

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2003/07/costing_an_arm_and_a_leg.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/1999/obsession_script.shtml

http://www.rense.com/general11/arms.htm



JanahX -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:32:01 PM)

What about certain CBT? Like nailing to boards? Do people go to the emergency room because of shit like this? Who pays?

Ive also seen forced intoxication =

Forced eating =

Forced starvation =

Sewing lips shut =

Sewing cunts shut =

Sewing eyeballs shut =



Fornica -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:34:47 PM)

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I've gotten that message from the die-in-a-session for you dude too. I respond to all of those with "sure!", and never hear from them again.



sheisreeds -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:43:44 PM)

Ok I actually know a few folks who have had their lips sewed shut.

I know people who have had their breasts skewered.

Nailing someone's dick down and can have serious effects, but there are ways to engage in similar things with some degree of safety. Long sterile needles could get a similar effect.

None of my friends, nor I have ended up in the ER due to close study and training in this stuff.

Lots of doctors, nurses, professional body mod artists, etc are in the scene and do these scenes, supervise, or mentor others.

It's all about lowering risk through knowledge, it can really be a game changer.



tazzygirl -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:51:39 PM)

Like the guy who wanted to be cannibalized. I would worry about someone who wanted to become an amputee. Its like the point of no return. You cant change your mind after the fact.



MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 4:57:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I guess I don't see stuff as extreme or not extreme..just what someone enjoys. I guess extreme is whatever you yourself would find extreme. I've seen people who think that anything more than a light spanking is extreme. People consider what Master and I do to be extreme. I don't. I just see it as what we enjoy. If someone else finds it hardcore or squicky, that's their problem, not mine.



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EmilyRocks -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:09:08 PM)

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Does anyone have a problem with me calling such a slave comprehensively fucked up? Or are you all gonna be "Hey, if they wanna die, that's up to them..."
I agree that such a slave is totally fucked up, but I'll also say that if they want to die, its up to them.



Lucylastic -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:13:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sheisreeds

Ok I actually know a few folks who have had their lips sewed shut.

I know people who have had their breasts skewered.

Nailing someone's dick down and can have serious effects, but there are ways to engage in similar things with some degree of safety. Long sterile needles could get a similar effect.

None of my friends, nor I have ended up in the ER due to close study and training in this stuff.

Lots of doctors, nurses, professional body mod artists, etc are in the scene and do these scenes, supervise, or mentor others.

It's all about lowering risk through knowledge, it can really be a game changer.


Precisely!!
I can do a lot of medical stuff because I have the nursing experience, I m quite happy with my " knowledge level" but having said that, most of it leaves me cold scene wise. Doing a saline infusion would leave me cold for example, I have no problems with the perfoming of it, or the care and after needs of the skin/or mental needs, but it doesnt flip my "excitement" switch either.



JanahX -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:14:26 PM)

and I guess its up to the top to come up with an explanation to the authorities why that person is dead.



EmilyRocks -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:15:49 PM)

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Its like the point of no return. You cant change your mind after the fact.
That's about where I think I would draw the line personally. If it can't be undone, I would be very reluctant to do it. I include tattoos in that BTW.



tazzygirl -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:17:34 PM)

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Does anyone have a problem with me calling such a slave comprehensively fucked up?  Or are you all gonna be "Hey, if they wanna die, that's up to them..." - please tell me there's some sanity remaining in this place.


I can see someone who has been living with severe, chronic pain wanting too, and being mentally competent to say, I want to die.

Beyond that, its beyond my comprehension why we would believe someone who wants to die is nuts, but should be allowed to do so. Simply put, if they were no longer "nuts" would they still want too?



EmilyRocks -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:18:42 PM)

I guess. Hopefully the top will have that figured out before they go through with it, but if not, oh well, stupid can't be helped.



tazzygirl -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:20:27 PM)

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I can do a lot of medical stuff because I have the nursing experience, I m quite happy with my " knowledge level" but having said that, most of it leaves me cold scene wise. Doing a saline infusion would leave me cold for example, I have no problems with the perfoming of it, or the care and after needs of the skin/or mental needs, but it doesnt flip my "excitement" switch either.


LOL

I just remembered all the speculum exams I have given... and cant imagine giving one that would turn me on. And forget urine catheter scenes....grab a dick, shove it in, blow it up and move on. Just way too clinical for a trigger trip.



tazzygirl -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:22:43 PM)

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I include tattoos in that BTW.


Tatoos can be removed or covered, piercings can close up or even be surgically closed. Reattaching a leg.... not so easily fixed.



EmilyRocks -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:23:37 PM)

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Beyond that, its beyond my comprehension why we would believe someone who wants to die is nuts, but should be allowed to do so.
Because its none of our damned business if they live or die. Its their life, its their choice.
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Simply put, if they were no longer "nuts" would they still want too?
Self negating question. If they want to die they are nuts. If they are no longer nuts and still want to die, they are not "no longer nuts", they are still nuts. But it still isn't your business or mine, or anybody but theirs.



tazzygirl -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:24:41 PM)

Suicide is illegal, so is murder.



EmilyRocks -> RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes (12/17/2011 5:25:35 PM)

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Tatoos can be removed or covered, piercings can close up or even be surgically closed. Reattaching a leg.... not so easily fixed.
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