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Casteele -> How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 3:13:44 AM)

A poll in the polls section got me thinking about this, and now I'm curious to see and discuss how/what others here think and consider a "perfect partner" (http://www.collarchat.com/m_3964821/tm.htm). Here's what I started to type in that thread, but decided to start a topic here instead:

I do not have any concept of a perfect partner, nor even an ideal one. And since it's bound to come up on this forum, no, not even a perfect/ideal group of partners. This is largely because for me, the term "perfect" is very abstract, used to convey a specific meaning that does not exist when it comes to people. I've known and dated some wonderful people whom I viewed as perfect within themselves, including their quirks and "imperfections" which I personally felt enhanced them rather than detracted. I also value people whom are very much real, and have a natural distrust of people whom appear "too good to be true," as they often are.

The closest I can come to a "perfect partner" in my eyes is someone whom I enjoy exploring and learning from, admiring both their good and bad points, and appreciating how they are "put together" as a whole. But in this regard, that makes every partner I ever had and will have a perfect partner. How do others here view this subject?




Kaliko -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 3:56:57 AM)

Well, of course we all want someone to support us, and challenge us, etc. but I'll jump in and be specific. My perfect partner is first and foremost smarter than I am. (I don't necessarily mean one must have a degree and I don't necessarily mean book-smart. Besides, my own degree is next to worthless.) I highly value being pushed intellectually in a relationship. Some of the more intelligent men I've come across are sometimes hard for people to relate to, but I enjoy the usually more stimulating thought and conversation that takes a back seat to social niceties. I've always been drawn to super-intellectuals for as long as I can remember and so that would be my "perfect" partner, if indeed there was one. That, and (I've said it before) clean-shaven balls. Perfect.




FrostedFlake -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 4:47:49 AM)

Perfect?

Love and affection. Trust and respect. She has a mind and a will and a belief in both of them  I kinda like *monogamy*. She is as into 'boinking' as I am. Is interested in (most of) the same things I am, vanilla and not. Is in the same sort of shape I am. Is FAR better off financially. And she is a liberal. If I can take this a little farther, it would be nice if she had a Pony.

Seriously? The money is not that important. But you said perfect.

ETA ; It is important that her driving doesn't make me crazy.




stellauk -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 5:19:02 AM)

Perfection I feel is asking too much of anyone.

However there are three things I look for universally in everyone - personal integrity, authenticity and the ability to relate to others without creating stress or melodrama.




ashjor911 -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 5:25:48 AM)

1- morning,

2- there is no such thing called "perfect Partner".

[image]http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv5dgkanj71qzlro6o1_400.gif[/image]
“We waste time looking for the perfect lover, instead of creating the perfect love.”
Tom Robbins.




MistrixMsE -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 5:42:59 AM)

I buried my 'perfect partner' after he was murdered. I truly believe if he hadn't been killed we'd still be together. I have a wonderful son from him, who has grown into a wonderful MAN and that is a blessing. He was strong, intelligent, willing to challenge me... to push me, loving, gentle, beautiful, spiritual, protective... he worked hard to provide for us, even though I made great money at, he was proud of me, proud to be with me.. he was honest... he was compassionate... and when he touched me it was ethereal. We had similar interests, and even those he wasn't into, he'd endure to be a part of my passions with me. Was never happier than when he was near. He was very special...

For way more years than I'd care to admit, i have been chasing that ghost (decade+). I gave up on that hunt on Sept 13th.. let it go...let go of the issues i was having with the impending end of a 7 year relationship that was terribly unsatisfying for the last 18 months.. accepted that I'd probably wind up being single for the rest of my days. 5 days later I met someone who reminds me of my sons father in many ways... not physically... not in the least... but his essence encompasses many of those same qualities.. changed my world. The universe is a finicky & delightfully funny creature... but I know better than to argue with her...

Wish me luck...




GreedyTop -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 6:14:05 AM)

wow, thats awesome, MsE!! Good luck!! (and ffs.. you do NOT look old enough to have a grown child!!!)




barelynangel -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 7:10:58 AM)

I will admit i was a little perplexed as to why people kept saying they haven't found anyone perfect because no one is perfect.  To me a perfect partner isn't a perfect person, we click together easily, and naturally and the relationship doesn't need to be actively defined but that it's naturally defined between us.   It means that each of us can read the other well, knows the other well and grow together.  But for me, it also means we may not be together for ever, but they were the perfect partner at that time and place.  To me, the perfect defines the concept that all of our needs are being met and many of our wants as well and we don't have many bouts of i wishes regarding the other person.

Unfortunately a downside to this for me, is the bar has been raised for anyone who follows because i know what it is to have such a relationship.  It's really hard at the beginning especially when you are trying to get to know someone knew because i have a tendancy to compare and contrast.   It is getting better as i go along, i try really hard not to compare and contrast but then i run into the concept of it just seeming too hard to have the relationship with someone knew. 



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angelikaJ -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 7:16:11 AM)

While there is no such creature as a perfect partner, I am with someone who is perfect for me.

Perfection, the idea of it, tends to lead to disappointments.

My Master does not expect perfection except in one thing; for that there is no wiggle room.

In everything else I am a work in progress.

I like people's humanity and the vulnerabilities therein too much to wish for perfection.

I prefer real, with all it's messiness to the idea of perfect.





LillyBoPeep -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 7:26:19 AM)

To me, "perfect" does't mean "perfect" when you're talking about people. Perfect means flaws, it means issues, it means stuff you have to deal with, but it's the little threads and details in between. I don't use it in a sense to say "perfect happiness" or a "perfect life," because you're with this someone. Sometimes people we love drive us nuts, sometimes they hurt us - sometimes we hurt them, that's life.

I can't say what's "perfect" for me, it's just something I feel down the road. If I started listing arbiitrary attributes, i'd be talking about what's attractive to me, but that's not necessarily the same thing as "perfect."




lizi -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 7:45:58 AM)

Well, to me the match with a partner is mostly made in his personal qualities- integrity, honesty, the willingness to communicate, being supportive of me, and how he treats his family. Things like looks, kink, finances, are more like broad general areas that have to be there in ways that are acceptable to me, but not in specific ways. My (almost) perfect partner needs to be someone that I can respect for his character, other things are secondary.




littlewonder -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 10:16:52 AM)

Master [:)]

Seriously, the man who I love and adore, who makes me smile, who wants the best for us both, who pays attention to me and shows his love in so many different ways, someone who shares my morals and values. And even when he doesn't understand me, he tries and doesn't make me feel stupid.

He's the man who I can't ever imagine not being with.





LaTigresse -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 10:35:34 AM)

Stella, Angelika and Lilly have all expressed views that are similar to my own. I don't like the word 'perfect' simply because it's too.....one dimensional. The people that have been important to me, in my relationships, are all vastly different from one another in most ways. Yet, they have all been perfect for me. Even with their flaws and imperfections.

I want to be around people that inspire me, enrich my life, teach me things about life and myself, make me laugh, and are people I can trust and believe in.




Casteele -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 12:32:08 PM)

(FR/General reply)

I admit that I am a bit surprised by how many replies indicate thoughts similar to my own; The way dating/personals sites are structured and the way I hear people talk about relationships and dating often leaves me to believe people place far too much stock in what I've always called "By the numbers" dating. That is, you look at a profile the same way you would look at a baseball or football roster. Quantified raw numbers that you can compare and compute probabilities and chances for success. In a way, "speed dating" is like that: The idea is that by meeting many people in a short amount of time, you have a higher probability of meeting one or two people whom interest you enough to see if you want to take a more "traditional" approach of getting to know them better on a second date. It's not something I think I could do, but I've known a few people who say it's worked well for them.

There's many comments worthy of replies, but I will be selective here..

MsE: That is truly wonderful in more than just finding a potentially good match. There have been so many times I've heard people say something along the lines of "As soon as I got in the right mindset and let go of the past, my future walked right in to my life!" Although I do not believe it is cause and effect, but more of when you're not seeing/thinking clearly, you walk right by those whom might-have-been without really noticing them because you're too focused elsewhere. You seem to have come to realize that you can never replace what was lost, but you can find someone who can fill that void that was left behind. Many people in your situation never learn that difference, which is sad because it's a negative feedback loop: You only end up missing what you lost even more, and want even more to replace it. My best wishes on the journey ahead of you with this new guy, he sounds like a great guy indeed.

FF: No worries--I see many people poo-poo the idea that money or looks matter. I think those people are just deluding themselves. While such things should not be the top priority in most relationships, they do matter because they do strongly affect how your relationship will evolve and grow. My instinct is to treat my special one like the princess I see her as.. But my pocketbook reminds me I'm not Bill Gates! Likewise, I cannot see forcing myself to be close and affectionate with someone I find looks or smells repulsive to me. That would turn the relationship in to a constant struggle and too much work. In the end, I'd only end up resenting myself for even trying (and likely blaming them instead of myself, as it was I whom made the decision to try).

ashjor: Seems many of us agree there is not universal "perfect partner," but reading your profile, it looks like you have a pretty clear idea of what and who would make you happy to spend the remainder of your life with. That, IMO, is a good thing.

barely: I only see your "downside" as a downside if you are truly comparing the present/future with the past. In every relationship, we learn a little more about ourselves. What we like/dislike, want/don't want, need/can live without, and the deal makers and deal breakers. As you learn and grow, that bar should continue to rise, and you should not settle or accept something less than what would make you happy and complete.

little: Congrats, and well put. My blessings and best wishes for a long and happy life together!

Sorry for those I have not commented on; Your posts are all great!





Missokyst -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 1:17:02 PM)

Perfect for me is someone geeky. I like brains (future zombie here I am sure), I like creativity because in a way those are brains who need to figure out how to make things work. I also like people who don't attach quickly, largely because they are seeing how much fits with their partner before they commit. I like logic.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 3:14:27 PM)

I think that when people say "perfect partner" they mean "perfect match" rather than flawless human being. And I have never *really* found anyone, let alone someone perfect.





Kaliko -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 3:16:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Casteele


Sorry for those I have not commented on; Your posts are all great!





ppphtt. Whatever.


:)




ashjor911 -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 5:08:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Casteele
ashjor: Seems many of us agree there is not universal "perfect partner," but reading your profile, it looks like you have a pretty clear idea of what and who would make you happy to spend the remainder of your life with. That, IMO, is a good thing.


1- no peekin you perv [:D]
2- The person who would make me happy to spend the remainder of my life with is simply a girl,
but she dose not have to be tall, short, blond or black hair, she dose not have to be perfect. she is only human for Gods sake.

however she has to be in love with me, & knowing that falling in love needs time i am willing to wait my whole life for her to come along,
but when she come along, i will never let her go .... even when she died, unless she want to break my heart & leave.
what makes someone perfect, is your patience Ignore the small mistakes, which are the salt for this life.

i believe, that we have been created as pairs, but in a single way so we can search for the other part, maybe even fight for that part, which will be a Piece of the heart. that kind of love that we read about do not believe that kind of love only exist in fairy tales and books. which is very very wrong.

PS: till this day, i really put a condom under my pillow incase that mysterious lady of my drems come to rescue my sorry ass from the hell i live in, & take me to her room & rape my soul all the way to her heaven.




Casteele -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 6:37:09 PM)

ash, that's great! I like the way you describe what you want because I can feel it come through in your writing. There's a poetic feel, and a passion and optimism that I really do wonder why that lady has not yet come along and grabbed you up. Best of luck to you!





Casteele -> RE: How do you define the "Perfect Partner?" (12/18/2011 6:45:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko
quote:

ORIGINAL: Casteele
Sorry for those I have not commented on; Your posts are all great!

ppphtt. Whatever.


:)

Good timing, was just looking for something wet to seal this envelope.. :-x

Seriously though, your post and the others were so well put, I really felt there was nothing to add or comment on. I very much like and agree on the intellectual bit, but that can quickly explode in to a whole 'nother topic for me. I did ponder a bit if maybe I should offer to send you a pair of Truck Nuts, though .. http://www.bullsballs.com/ .. They come completely free of hair ;-)




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