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RE: scammer - 12/18/2011 8:56:18 PM

soul2share

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dayum...should've been here earlier...would've loved to see the original list, but he's changed the profile.

What a maroooooon!!!!! The little head strikes again!

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 12:50:59 AM

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Dude, major fail on so many levels. If you must involve money, try buying a clue. Just delete your account and start over since this one's a goner.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 4:16:28 AM

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I keep getting accused of being fake because I wont cam with people and I'm into extreme things. :( I've uploaded 2 photos of me holding up my screen name written on a piece of paper and now looks as if I'll have to do a cam entry too. It's so disheartening.

I am not completely unknown in the community, many people followed my blog for years and have made real life friends too. I am new to collarme though and I'm wondering weather to just go back to IC, as I am treated with more respect there. Its made me very sad I have to prove myself so much. I am paying because of the fakes and it's not right.

I would be horrified if I was on any list like that.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 4:21:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: drjohn200

I want to know why CM doesnt do more to protect the general public from scammers.

They do. They post a large message warning everyone not to send money to others online. At your age you should know better, but there it is.

edited to add: and they pulled your list because it is against tos. Another thing you could have read on this site. So maybe the problem isn't cm. Maybe it's your reading comprehension.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 4:23:28 AM

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hitmeharderstill, welcome to collarme.

You are not being accused of being fake by anyone who matters. There are some losers who accuse women of being fake to try to get them to cam. If anyone accuses you of being fake, block, delete, and move on.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 4:26:36 AM

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You aren't paying because of the fakes as much as you are enabling them.
By feeling the need to post an image with your screen name on it,
or god forbid, a cam entry in your profile, you are simply falling victim
to the oldest trick on the internet, and usually played out by a man typing with only one hand.

Why anyone feels they need to validate their identity to a perfect stranger is beyond me.
Those that deem you fake are manipulating you into showing them the goods.
I'd much rather be on some horny net geeks list of fakes then expose myself to them.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 5:13:23 AM

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I have one saying that he is spreading around CM that I am a fake.

Im almost certain he isn't, but even so, if he says it once and even one person gets put off , that person might have been the one for me but won't even look at me believing lies. I don't want to take that risk.

You may think me posting pictures is wrong, but when I first joined I got about 30 messages accusing me... So it was a bit out of hand and that was my only option. I don't see any harm in the pictures though, I woul never give them the satisfaction of camming with them.

The pictures have silenced the majority, but there are still a few doing everything they can to upset me- on a site full of men who like being in control, I am not overly suprised about it! I've been on three of the main bdsm sites since i was 19 (not sure im allowed to mention which) and I've never had this level of abuse before. Looks like I've been lucky so far!

On a positive note, there have been many people here who have been very friendly and made me feel welcome, so I'm only talking about a minority of CM users. I'll just concentrate on those ones :)

Liz

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 5:19:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hitmeharderstill

I have one saying that he is spreading around CM that I am a fake.

He says he's willing to lie about you to his vast international network. Actually, he's simply lying to you.

quote:

Im almost certain he isn't, but even so, if he says it once and even one person gets put off , that person might have been the one for me but won't even look at me believing lies. I don't want to take that risk.

Not an issue. If someone is such a dumbshit that they'll take his unsupported word and not look at you, you don't want that idiot even in your life, let alone in a position to own you.

Besides, like I said, the liar does not know anyone here.

quote:

You may think me posting pictures is wrong, but when I first joined I got about 30 messages accusing me... So it was a bit out of hand and that was my only option. I don't see any harm in the pictures though, I woul never give them the satisfaction of camming with them.

No problem. The pics don't hurt anyone.

quote:

The pictures have silenced the majority, but there are still a few doing everything they can to upset me- on a site full of men who like being in control, I am not overly suprised about it! I've been on three of the main bdsm sites since i was 19 (not sure im allowed to mention which) and I've never had this level of abuse before. Looks like I've been lucky so far!

Nope. You keep thinking there is this vast interconnected network. It's just a few disconnected losers.

quote:

On a positive note, there have been many people here who have been very friendly and made me feel welcome, so I'm only talking about a minority of CM users. I'll just concentrate on those ones :)

Liz

Yay!

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 7:52:13 AM

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quote:

Please read this to see why we do not allow it

But you do allow it.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 9:07:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Yay!

:)

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 9:42:24 AM

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Whenever I see one of those "fakes" lists, I consider it prima facie evidence that the people on the list are real.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 9:53:10 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hitmeharderstill

The pictures have silenced the majority, but there are still a few doing everything they can to upset me-

Yes, because they want you to give them free wank material. Regardless of what they tell you, the chances that they actually know anybody else on this site or that anyone will take them seriously is extremely minute. If I were you, I wouldn't waste a moment of time of those idiots.

quote:

on a site full of men who like being in control

There's a difference between dominant and domineering. The guys you're dealing with are just trying to bully you into allow them to take advantage of you.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 10:08:57 AM

Rule

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hitmeharderstill
I have one saying that he is spreading around CM that I am a fake.

As DS said: ignore, block, hide, delete.

quote:

ORIGINAL: hitmeharderstill
when I first joined I got about 30 messages accusing me... So it was a bit out of hand and that was my only option.

No, there is another - much better - option: ignore, block, hide, delete.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 4:10:34 PM

hitmeharderstill

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done, done, and done.

Thanks

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 4:19:00 PM

kalikshama

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quote:

when I first joined I got about 30 messages accusing me

Good grief! Perhaps newcomers should receive a system-generated message that this is fake and to report such emails.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 4:55:43 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hitmeharderstill

I keep getting accused of being fake because I wont cam with people and I'm into extreme things. :( I've uploaded 2 photos of me holding up my screen name written on a piece of paper and now looks as if I'll have to do a cam entry too. It's so disheartening.

I am not completely unknown in the community, many people followed my blog for years and have made real life friends too. I am new to collarme though and I'm wondering weather to just go back to IC, as I am treated with more respect there. Its made me very sad I have to prove myself so much. I am paying because of the fakes and it's not right.

I would be horrified if I was on any list like that.

Please take my advice for what it's worth - chill.

People here are not so much hung up on their own image or popularity as people on IC which I found to be a deeply unpleasant place if you weren't in with any crowd.

I know some of the people I know personally prefer IC.. Here people are much more laidback and I wouldn't pay any attention to any of the divs that lurk not just here but on any BDSM site.

Here you just have to get used to Americans, who think differently, speak with funny accents and use the odd strange word, but if you avoid politics they're generally amicable and friendly.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 5:31:09 PM

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I read the OP's message, and it elicited in me a bit of sadness. Why? Well, I am not sure anyone actually cares why, but I will share the why of it anyway. I think mainly it's the fact that many of us, as a group, have chosen or decided to live our romantic and sexual lives in a niche: we lead an alternative lifestyle, and one that is not very well understood or accepted in a vast majority of cases and locales. So here we congregate, hoping to find, well, I cannot really speak for anyone else except for myself, but I am hoping to find love. I know how completely sappy that sounds, trust me, but it is also very true. On this site, and others, I network out and hope to find something real. I am quite sure that others here feel the same.

The problem in all of this is that for those of us who identify as submissive or dominant, this is what we are. I gave up attempting to have vanilla relationships quite some time ago, because as a submissive, I found the traditional dynamic to be both unsatisfying and also more than a little dishonest on my part. It's difficult to wear the pants in the family and be expected to be the man of the house when all I really want is for my wife to turn me over her knee when I displease her, and maybe even just for kicks.

And, so, here I am, alongside everyone else, facing the same challenges and tribulations, but also a little joy as well. At this point, I will admit to something: sometimes, I feel a little desperate and I do despair of finding that person who will fill my life with happiness and chores and the occasional slap to the backside. Yes, I have moments of weakness in which I think not so much with my little head, but with my emotions. Because, in some respects, this can be a lonely life, at least I have found that to be the case. Which brings me round to this: while it is true that some scammers lure us with pure carnal desire, it is just as often that they play upon our emotions. I really shouldn't say "our" as I've never actually been successfully scammed. But I have carried on long conversations via the messaging system here only to find out at some point that I am expected to either sign up for a Website or send money to some undisclosed location, in the form of actual money or gift certificates or what have you.

Now, at this point, I know I am being scammed, as should anyone with any sense, and I end things fairly quickly. So, I am not out anything of value, but I am left with a fair amount of disappointment. That's the part that hurts. And so my little "woe is me" essay, which does sound so "woe is me"-ish as I read it back to myself, but is not really meant that way. I speak in personal terms based on some of my experiences, and while I have run across the odd bad actor, I have also met some pretty nice people as well. It's a mixed bag, of course, just like life.

So, what's the point? I think a lot of people have piled on the OP, some for good reason, but I wonder if he's acting more out of emotional distress at unmet needs than, say, unrequited and stupefying lust. Sure, he could be a sex crazed idiot who deserves everything that's coming to him. If that's the case, he'll go broke before he does any real damage. But my more charitable angels wonder if this was an act of a man spurned in love. Several times over. Losing his pension in the process. Well, it could happen.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 5:34:45 PM

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Hell, considering the shape he's in, he likely wouldn't live past Discovery anyway.

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 5:35:18 PM

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TL:dr.

for those of us with an ADD issue, could you condense that a bit?

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RE: scammer - 12/19/2011 5:43:27 PM

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dwntherabbithole, welcome to collarme.

You've been here seven months. You should be recognizing the patterns by now. I can pick off a scammer by the profile or even simply by the picture by now.

Your view of the OP is that he's a victim of unmanageable dreams of love. I consider him a victim of stupidity and refusal to accept his own blameworthiness.

1. He ignored the banner saying DO NOT SEND MONEY.
2. He fell for a scammer. A gorgeous picture of a 20something woman, with horrible grammar, living overseas, implying that she couldn't find anyone in her own country. She hit him up for relation money and, blinded with lust, he complied.
3. Upon realizing he'd been scammed, he decided to make it his crusade to out similar scammers. Without checking the TOU to see if his outing was permitted.
4. The site moderators removed the outing and notified him.
5. He, without reflecting why the TOU were in place, thought the entire site was out to get him.
6. He posted here asking if there were any class action suits against collarme in progress. This was dumb per my post in response.

At some point, an adult needs to accept responsibility for their actions. Before 65, certainly.

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The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

Quit fretting. We men love you."

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