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BKSir -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/18/2011 5:42:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I don't think there is bigotry or lack of education in wanting or preferring the opposite sex. I like men and cocks. If a woman were to approach me for a relationship I would have no interest. Likewise I am sure straight males might only wish to pursue biological females. Just as the OP is seeking someone who is a master, and seeking a Tv/CD we all have preferences.
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ORIGINAL: BKSir
Edit to add... wow the bigotry and lack of education in such an area in this thread is overwhelming.




Not you, Misso... You actually made sense. There are a couple though that... well... not so much.




EmilyRocks -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/18/2011 6:13:34 PM)

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When if they seek loyalty we give the most
Pfah! The Unsullied of Astapor are the most loyal. It is known.




DarkSteven -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/18/2011 6:49:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wantstocontrolu

Because I will not pay for their "gender change" also other than a few rare exceptions we beleave that a male born is a male not a girl wannabe.


I'm going to try to be polite in my response.

1. A TV/CD is someone who dresses as the other gender.  That's it.  Someone who wants a gender change is a TG, not a CD/TV.

2. As Jaquin implied, almost all TGs expect to pay for their transition themselves.  Which makes sense - why would someone look to get involved with someone who needs $30K of surgery and hormones?

3. " other than a few rare exceptions we beleave that a male born is a male not a girl wannabe."

This can be interpreted two different ways:
A. All of us, with a few rare exceptions, believe that a male born is a male, not a girl wannabe.
B All of us believe that, with a few rare exceptions, a male born is a male, not a girl wannabe.

Both of which ignore the fact that TGs are physically one gender and mentally another.  Stating that they ARE a single gender completely overlooks the GID that drives them to transition.

It's no crime to be unaware of TG issues.  But why offer up your opinions as facts if you don't have any background in the area?




GotSteel -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/18/2011 8:16:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: EmiliannaRose
i am just curious to know why most Masters dont consider tv/cd gurls.

Because most of us are straight.


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ORIGINAL: EmilyRocks
Pfah! The Unsullied of Astapor are the most loyal. It is known.






MistressDarkArt -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/18/2011 9:35:05 PM)

ER, welcome to the boards. Your picture w/the toilet seat up is certainly not helping your case.





peppermint -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/18/2011 9:36:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: EmiliannaRose

i am just curious to know why most Masters dont consider tv/cd gurls. When if they seek loyalty we give the most (personal opinion).


I do not agree about that loyalty stuff. Every CD I know is a married guy whose wife does not know he is a cross dresser. That means he goes off with other people, often strangers to do his dress up. I see no loyalty involved in sneaking behind his wife's back.




lizi -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/18/2011 10:41:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: EmiliannaRose

i am just curious to know why most Masters dont consider tv/cd gurls. When if they seek loyalty we give the most (personal opinion). And if there are Masters that like tv/cd girls send me a line. Thank you kisses on tour feet emilianna rose


This just kind of dumbfounds me, are people not entitled to their sexual preference? People are just supposed to switch around to want what you have to offer because it would suit you? Wtf?




FrostedFlake -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 12:13:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: EmiliannaRose

i am just curious to know why most Masters dont consider tv/cd gurls. When if they seek loyalty we give the most (personal opinion). And if there are Masters that like tv/cd girls send me a line. Thank you kisses on tour feet emilianna rose


This just kind of dumbfounds me, are people not entitled to their sexual preference? People are just supposed to switch around to want what you have to offer because it would suit you? Wtf?


Thanks Lizi.

Now I can just stand here with this dumb look on my face.

Edited to add : Can I post one of these 'Personal Ad' threads?

Should I do it in 'Introduce Myself'?
Or 'Ask a mistress'?
Or 'Off Topic'
Or 'Humor and Games'?
Or 'For Sale'?




crazyml -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 12:38:53 AM)

<tips hat>




crazyml -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 12:45:33 AM)

EmiliannaRose,


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ORIGINAL: EmiliannaRose

i am just curious to know why most Masters dont consider tv/cd gurls. When if they seek loyalty we give the most (personal opinion). And if there are Masters that like tv/cd girls send me a line. Thank you kisses on tour feet emilianna rose


Let's "workshop" this... can you really not think of a couple of reasons why most Masters won't consider tv/cd gurls?

Let's start with the fact that the majority of Masters identify as straight. How do you think that might impact their preference or not for tv/cd gurls?





DaddySatyr -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 2:07:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Let's "workshop" this... can you really not think of a couple of reasons why most Masters won't consider tv/cd gurls?

Let's start with the fact that the majority of Masters identify as straight. How do you think that might impact their preference or not for tv/cd gurls?



LOL! I was almost going to "call" you on the first statement/question, there. I have to admit though, one need not delve too hard to find the invitation to snark. In fact, it is "prèt-à-porté".

But, on that subject; while I like buzzing around you, like a friendly little fruit fly (LOL), isn't your seven days up? Uh-oh! Do you keep re-setting the clock, each time there's an occurance of snark?

You make me laugh, almost every time I read one of your posts. Thank you.



Peace and comfort,



Michael





strawberryshake -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 5:34:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wantstocontrolu

Because I will not pay for their "gender change" also other than a few rare exceptions we beleave that a male born is a male not a girl wannabe.

I'm a transsexual woman and I'm offended by your comment too.  I worked and paid for my own transition, and so did the people I know who have transitioned.  We are not low life scumbag prostitutes looking for a meal ticket any more than any other demographic. The media just seems to portray us that way which is something I also resent.

Also the OP has self identified as a CD, not a TS.  So I'm not sure where the "surgery" idea came from anyway.
The OP





strawberryshake -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 5:44:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsNightShade

I would say the same reason many Domme's dont care for them. You're not women, even if you get implants. You're not female. You are physically still male. You're a fetish for some perhaps but that niche is small.

HMMMM....really?  I have to disagree.
Consider the following:

You run a ship making company that makes two types of ships, ship A and ship B, each using a different kind of timber. One time, a ship A is built that uses ship B's type of timber for some of the frame and the rudder, but still appears as ship A. You sell this ship to a regular buyer, who takes it out on the sea and finds that the ship handles like ship B. The buyer realizes that some of the frame and the rudder are made from the same type of timber as ship B, but everything else is made from the ship A timber. The buyer realizes that the ship won't last as long with both types of timber. Over time, the buyer comes upon ship B parts that they switch out for the ship A parts, until over the course of a few months, every piece on the ship that had originally been type A timber has been switched out for type B timber. So the question, is it still the same ship that you sold to the buyer after they switched out the pieces? What was it that defined the ship?






Rectio -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 6:12:05 AM)

You're making some big generalizations there.  You'd be far better off approaching men that you think might like you and telling them they should consider you because YOU are very loyal.  Some men, but not all, would treat you like a "gurl".  Some CD/TVs are very loyal, I'm sure, but not all.  If you are attracted to straight men and you'd like a straight man to accept you as a woman, I think you're going to have a tough time.  How you feel may not match your equipment, but the vast majority of straight men are going to have a tough time overlooking the fact that you do, in fact, have male equipment.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 6:15:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: peppermint


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ORIGINAL: EmiliannaRose

i am just curious to know why most Masters dont consider tv/cd gurls. When if they seek loyalty we give the most (personal opinion).


I do not agree about that loyalty stuff. Every CD I know is a married guy whose wife does not know he is a cross dresser. That means he goes off with other people, often strangers to do his dress up. I see no loyalty involved in sneaking behind his wife's back.


Almost all the CDs who call me are married or in relationships. MOST of their wives do not know they call phone sex operators. (although a few do) I'm not going to make a judgment call on whether or not they are "loyal", but it certainly seems many of them could be much more honest.




Fornica -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 6:30:29 AM)

I think everyone is making it way more complicated than it really is. The true reason is be because you spell girl with a U. It's scientifically documented that slang like that makes a Master's penis cry.




BDazz -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 7:22:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl


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ORIGINAL: BKSir
wow the bigotry and lack of education in such an area in this thread is overwhelming.

I totally agree.

Being quite new here, I am filled with joy that you both feel that way. Reading through this thread I was actually surprised at how mild and considerate the replies are, especially when you take into account that the OP itself contains some pretty strong (and, to some, offensive) opinions/assertions. Let's just say that this thread would look a whole lot different in most other parts of the web, the parts I'm more used to.

This is bad, very bad... Yet another spot on the web to endlessly surf! Argh!

Seriously though: Yay! I'm already loving this [sm=yahoo.gif]




OsideGirl -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 7:36:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: EmiliannaRose

i am just curious to know why most Masters dont consider tv/cd gurls.
Because at the end of the day, you're still a male that dresses as a female. A straight male dominant, most likely isn't interested in a same sex relationship.

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When if they seek loyalty we give the most (personal opinion).
Wow....






DesFIP -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 11:46:43 AM)

Personally I don't view cross dressing as a form of gender dysphoria.

So I'm confused by you claiming to be both a male who has a sexual fetish for dressing in women's clothes and a woman who simply dresses herself naturally. Because I don't get turned on when I put on a bra. In fact, I don't know any woman who does.

Beyond that, have you transitioned yet if you are a TG? How many years of therapy have you had to deal with the associated problems from living your life trapped in the wrong body? Because this is a major problem that causes people enormous difficulty and needs therapy to cope with and come to closure. If you haven't, then it's the same as if you have any other illness whether mental or physical. It's your job to become healthy first in order to be able to have a healthy relationship. It isn't your partner's problem to solve your issues.




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Why dont Masters consider Tv/CD gurls? (12/19/2011 12:14:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Fornica

I think everyone is making it way more complicated than it really is. The true reason is be because you spell girl with a U. It's scientifically documented that slang like that makes a Master's penis cry.


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Ahhhhh Fornilovely, ever the way with words!




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