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climax2 -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/2/2012 4:31:15 PM)

I've got to say, this was an enlightening topic.  In the last three months, I've never heard any DOM say sorry, once!!




ConfidencePlays -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/2/2012 4:40:01 PM)

I'm a dom. I'm also a man. A man who takes responsibility for his actions, his behavior, his thoughts, his words, and everything properly his.

Which is why I can say, without any hesitation or second guessing.... that I am -always- prepared to apologize when I am in the wrong. Humans tend to get a lot of things wrong, and I'm no exception to that rule.

Any man who isn't able to own up to his mistakes, failures, shortcomings, lapses in good taste, good judgment or proper decorum, accidents, "incidents" and all other manner of issues stemming from their basic humanity.... isn't able to "man up" enough to even be called a man.

[/opinion]




Duskypearls -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/2/2012 6:20:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ConfidencePlays

I'm a dom. I'm also a man. A man who takes responsibility for his actions, his behavior, his thoughts, his words, and everything properly his.

Which is why I can say, without any hesitation or second guessing.... that I am -always- prepared to apologize when I am in the wrong. Humans tend to get a lot of things wrong, and I'm no exception to that rule.

Any man who isn't able to own up to his mistakes, failures, shortcomings, lapses in good taste, good judgment or proper decorum, accidents, "incidents" and all other manner of issues stemming from their basic humanity.... isn't able to "man up" enough to even be called a man.

[/opinion]

Here here!





RaspberryLemon -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/2/2012 7:46:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ConfidencePlays

I'm a dom. I'm also a man. A man who takes responsibility for his actions, his behavior, his thoughts, his words, and everything properly his.

Which is why I can say, without any hesitation or second guessing.... that I am -always- prepared to apologize when I am in the wrong. Humans tend to get a lot of things wrong, and I'm no exception to that rule.

Any man who isn't able to own up to his mistakes, failures, shortcomings, lapses in good taste, good judgment or proper decorum, accidents, "incidents" and all other manner of issues stemming from their basic humanity.... isn't able to "man up" enough to even be called a man.

[/opinion]


I applaud you. Very excellent, descriptive, and concise post. You seem a wise person. :)




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/2/2012 7:55:37 PM)

Oh boy, the only time I don't want to hear, "I'm sorry..."  is when it follows an OOOPS during play. [sm=flameout.gif][sm=injured.gif][sm=ofcourse.gif]

WinD




climax2 -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/3/2012 9:02:05 AM)

Well, I realize that not all DOMS are narcissistic;  I have a handful of old school DOMS that have been true and genuine friends to me.  However, it is very disappointing when someone's behavior changes erratically, and you are left in bewilderment.  And I know that I will never hear, those words, "I'm sorry, please forgive me".  




LaTigresse -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/3/2012 11:15:50 AM)

I know this is going to come across as snarky but it's seriously not intended that way.

Exactly what IS an old school dom? What defines one? Is there such a thing as a new school, and if so, what defines one? How does new school and old school differ? Is there some sort of age cut off between the two?




Focus50 -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/3/2012 1:08:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I know this is going to come across as snarky but it's seriously not intended that way.

Exactly what IS an old school dom? What defines one? Is there such a thing as a new school, and if so, what defines one? How does new school and old school differ? Is there some sort of age cut off between the two?


Does this mean you think the social standards of today are no different to those of 20 years ago; which are no different to 50 years ago etc...?

Focus.




LaTigresse -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/3/2012 1:11:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Focus50


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I know this is going to come across as snarky but it's seriously not intended that way.

Exactly what IS an old school dom? What defines one? Is there such a thing as a new school, and if so, what defines one? How does new school and old school differ? Is there some sort of age cut off between the two?


Does this mean you think the social standards of today are no different to those of 20 years ago; which are no different to 50 years ago etc...?

Focus.



I think that social standards vary dramatically with regard to time, location, and people involved. Time is only a fraction of the determining factors.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/3/2012 1:14:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: climax2

I've got to say, this was an enlightening topic.  In the last three months, I've never heard any DOM say sorry, once!!


They were probably too busy using up their stock of capital letters.




Focus50 -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/3/2012 2:02:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I know this is going to come across as snarky but it's seriously not intended that way.

Exactly what IS an old school dom? What defines one? Is there such a thing as a new school, and if so, what defines one? How does new school and old school differ? Is there some sort of age cut off between the two?


Does this mean you think the social standards of today are no different to those of 20 years ago; which are no different to 50 years ago etc...?

Focus.



I think that social standards vary dramatically with regard to time, location, and people involved. Time is only a fraction of the determining factors.


Me, too.

Which makes me think you were being a tad snarky in not trying to undertand what was meant or implied by "old school"....

Hmmm?? <pokes the bear some> ;)

Focus.




LaTigresse -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/3/2012 2:26:23 PM)

I asked for a definition of what old school meant to that particular poster because it will vary dramatically from one person to another. So much so that I do not even have a personal description of what 'old school' means. It's too.......vague I guess....for me to have a clue what anyone might mean when using that description.

I sincerely wanted to know how that person actually defined it.




Focus50 -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/4/2012 2:35:39 AM)

When I hear "old school" anything in relation to human social behaviour, I can't help but think they're referring to slower paced times where people generally had better manners, scruples, standards and principles than today.

I'm surprised you'd really have no clue to at least take a stab....

Focus.




AtticPragmatic -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/5/2012 8:28:31 AM)

If you can't apologize when you do or say something wrong, then you're not a real man, IMO. Or woman, as far as that goes, lol. What's good for the goose.....




stldaddy -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/24/2012 3:01:39 PM)

I haven't read all the responses but...
ALL people are manipulative. ALL people lie. Anyone that claims they don't or never have are manipulating you with a lie.
ALL people have the ability to twist things to fit their perspective.
Saying the actual word sorry is irrelevant to the point of what is being said. For example, a person can misunderstand or forget. Is admitting so any less valuable because the word sorry wasn't used? How something is said is much more important the actual words used.
Crossing a boundary is dependent on the relationship.
The man makes the Dom.
The presence of fear is also dependent on the relationship and the people involved. Interestingly it is believed fear comes from the same part of the brain as excitement. Hence the popularity of "scary" movies. I once dated a girl that jumped and screamed at scary movies. She enjoyed that stimulation.




jennileigh8182 -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/24/2012 3:52:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ConfidencePlays

I'm a dom. I'm also a man. A man who takes responsibility for his actions, his behavior, his thoughts, his words, and everything properly his.

Which is why I can say, without any hesitation or second guessing.... that I am -always- prepared to apologize when I am in the wrong. Humans tend to get a lot of things wrong, and I'm no exception to that rule.

Any man who isn't able to own up to his mistakes, failures, shortcomings, lapses in good taste, good judgment or proper decorum, accidents, "incidents" and all other manner of issues stemming from their basic humanity.... isn't able to "man up" enough to even be called a man.

[/opinion]




LIKES!


If a dominant can't say they're sorry strictly because they're dominant....then they're just an ass. Apologies have nothing to do with one's status.




Clickofheels -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/24/2012 3:57:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Your post as well as the other post someone posted to me shows major disrespect not only to him but to your relationship, it's a good thing he doesn't agree.    It's convenient he doesn't come here to want you publically blast his integrity while bitching about him not doing what you demand and want him to do.  

To me, based on your post here -- You have no respect for him at the very least, based on THIS thread, you believe he has no integrity.  To me, that means your relationship is over or at least well on its way to being over.

Maybe i see things differently as to what constitutes respect of your partner and your relationship and yourself.   But coming to a public board that you know he doesn't come to and pretty much indicate its YOUR Dom you are speaking about and the blasting of his integrity on a public board to me isn't the ingredients to maintain a healthy relationship.

But i guess we all set our own standards as to what is acceptable in a relationship.

angel



LMAO Say WHAT???
First of all, I believe she told us that she had PRIOR PERMISSION from her Dom to post here. Secondly, it's not like she is posting his name in capital letters, shining spotlights on it, and sending out flyers that we should all think him a total a**hole, for heaven's sakes!

She came here because she had HONEST questions about her situation. She asked respectfully, and has been very gracious about thanking people for their responses.
She's already upset. Must you tar and feather her as well?

Ms CLickofheels





Clickofheels -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/24/2012 4:06:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Keep asking when you need to clarify things in your head, forget those that tell you it is wrong to air dirty laundry in a public forum. It really irritates me when I see people who say that, AS IF they know you personally, know your town, know your family, and know the other party AND feel badly for them on a personal level. It is a bunch of BS.
If you want to ask, or need to, whether that it to get things right in your head or because you have no one close you can talk to about this, well that is why public forums are here.
You ask and take what you need from the answers. Otherwise these places would be just about politics, whines about trueness, and recipe exchanges.

quote:



What a very wise and compassionate post! Kudos for it, Missokyst!

(Smiles)
Ms CLickofheels




Clickofheels -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/24/2012 5:07:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stldaddy

I haven't read all the responses but...
ALL people are manipulative. ALL people lie. Anyone that claims they don't or never have are manipulating you with a lie.
ALL people have the ability to twist things to fit their perspective.
Saying the actual word sorry is irrelevant to the point of what is being said. For example, a person can misunderstand or forget. Is admitting so any less valuable because the word sorry wasn't used? How something is said is much more important the actual words used.
Crossing a boundary is dependent on the relationship.
The man makes the Dom.
The presence of fear is also dependent on the relationship and the people involved. Interestingly it is believed fear comes from the same part of the brain as excitement. Hence the popularity of "scary" movies. I once dated a girl that jumped and screamed at scary movies. She enjoyed that stimulation.




(Raises an eyebrow)
And all THIS from a male whose profile says women are naturally submissive beings. Well of course saying "I'm sorry" would be irrelevant, right?
Oh my!!!




DaddySatyr -> RE: Dom saying I'm sorry (1/24/2012 5:44:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stldaddy

I haven't read all the responses but...
ALL people are manipulative. ALL people lie. Anyone that claims they don't or never have are manipulating you with a lie.
ALL people have the ability to twist things to fit their perspective.
Saying the actual word sorry is irrelevant to the point of what is being said. For example, a person can misunderstand or forget. Is admitting so any less valuable because the word sorry wasn't used? How something is said is much more important the actual words used.
Crossing a boundary is dependent on the relationship.
The man makes the Dom.
The presence of fear is also dependent on the relationship and the people involved. Interestingly it is believed fear comes from the same part of the brain as excitement. Hence the popularity of "scary" movies. I once dated a girl that jumped and screamed at scary movies. She enjoyed that stimulation.



I would like to add one little tidbit to make your post a bit more deserving of a page in Carnegy. How about we edit your post so that the words: " ... that I've met ..." follow the words: "ALL people ...".

You see, there are some posters here that are people of quality and morals and your blanket statement is bound to offend some.

If you can't find your way to amending your post, this way, I will leave you with a final thought: ALL generalizations are inaccurate (except this one).



Peace and comfort,



Michael




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