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Lucylastic -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (12/29/2011 10:39:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: wittynamehere

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

dammit IM wearing a wife beater t shirt!!
WTF?
Im an alpha male?
*******Screaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaams* No NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I know you were kidding around, but still, this shows that you don't understand logic. Look it up sometime, it's actually quite interesting, and it'll definitely help you in debates and discussions. You know how people here are always saying your logic "doesn't follow"? They won't say that anymore once you understand what logic and reasoning are.

In short, just because all oranges are fruit, doesn't mean all fruit are oranges.... and just because all alpha makes wear wife beaters, doesn't mean all people who wear wife beaters are alpha males.



DUH that was my point smart man
You obviously do not understand english humour, ever!
the point was oh never mind, its a joke, there was no logic, that was the point.
Attacking me for making a joke?
how petty, how typical




Ninebelowzero -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (12/29/2011 11:07:59 AM)

Irony sometimes fails to travel well.




Justyourpet -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (12/29/2011 10:31:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

When you first meet, hand him a coil of barbed wire. If he chews it up and spits out ten-penny nails, he's an alpha male.

What if he shits lag bolts?


dump his ass and run!!


You mean screw his ass :p




Kaliko -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (12/31/2011 7:23:38 AM)

I rather like the men that can take beer bottle caps off with their teeth. Only a pussy uses a bottle opener. So, I'd start there. Hand him a beer.




Higuysitsme -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (12/31/2011 7:32:50 AM)

The real alpha males usually have large pics of their cocks on the front of their profiles.........

Ok, I'm only trying to be helpful.............




MarcEsadrian -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (12/31/2011 11:51:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GwenevereLynn
As I search for my master, I have only 1 non-negotiable trait that he MUST posses. He must be a true alpha male. I thought it may be worth a try to ask dominant men if they had any advice. In the sense of what behaviors, actions and spoken words would be indicators if he were in fact an alpha male. On the flip side of the coin, I would ask the same reversed. What would be behaviors, ect of a man who was not a real man at all? In short, what should I be looking for to ensure I do not fall prey to a p***y in a man costume! :)


I didn't read any of the replies to this thread, but I wanted to simply state that I grow tired of the Real Man® prerequisite so often bandied about by submissive women, or women who claim to be submissive, at least. Don't think I'm not sympathetic to the gist of such a search for dominant males; overall, I think zeroing in on what separates capable dominance and leadership from incapable dominance and leadership is important, though I'll pause for a moment to note that I didn't qualify a sex at all there. That's because what a man is and what a man isn't is often cultural and given to personal preference, ultimately. For many women, a Real Man® means a male who will provide for them, either as over-glorified sugar daddies or husbands in white collars who are gone more times than they are home. Real Men® can also be so punch drunk on their inflated egos and sense of macho obligation that they don't see how easily they can be played by their narcissistic little "kittens." Real Men® can easily become trapped by their obligation to be "real men" to the women who (supposedly) serve them.

Pardon my cynicism, but it's for these reasons I often have a healthy mistrust for "submissive" females who speak about Real men® in their searches, and are so quick to label other men who don't add up to their narrow, ignorant, and self-serving definitions as "pussies." Usually, this is the sign of a sycophantic princess with a shotgun under her bed.

My advice to you? Look for a male you can look up to and who can lead you well. Look for a male who will mentor you and even protect you, but who also won't take any of your shit in all its veiled and sundry forms. Look for a male who will call you out on the lies you tell yourself. Look for a male who will put you in your place. Look for a male who will detect and prune your voluptuously narcissistic female ego beyond all recognition or reason for regrowth. Look for a male who will inspire you to love him and follow him into Hell, if need be. If this is what an alpha male is in your mind's eye, I think you're on the right track, but I have met only a few females in my lifetime who didn't have to do some serious soul-searching and cultural deprogramming before arriving upon and honestly accepting the above advice.




SailingBum -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/2/2012 2:15:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Higuysitsme

The real alpha males usually have large pics of their cocks on the front of their profiles.........

Ok, I'm only trying to be helpful.............



BUT but but what if they only have a small cock....Oh wait I know go borrow someone else's cock pict. That would be a real man in my book.

BadOne




Buzzzz -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/10/2012 6:05:53 AM)

I would look for males with "detroit fire trucks" posted on their main pics :)




Duskypearls -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/10/2012 10:56:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

I rather like the men that can take beer bottle caps off with their teeth. Only a pussy uses a bottle opener. So, I'd start there. Hand him a beer.


Only a pussy uses a bottle opener? Now there's a visual I'll have a hard time getting shuck of!




Duskypearls -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/10/2012 11:00:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GwenevereLynn

My advice to you? Look for a male you can look up to and who can lead you well. Look for a male who will mentor you and even protect you, but who also won't take any of your shit in all its veiled and sundry forms. Look for a male who will call you out on the lies you tell yourself. Look for a male who will put you in your place. Look for a male who will detect and prune your voluptuously narcissistic female ego beyond all recognition or reason for regrowth. Look for a male who will inspire you to love him and follow him into Hell, if need be. If this is what an alpha male is in your mind's eye, I think you're on the right track, but I have met only a few females in my lifetime who didn't have to do some serious soul-searching and cultural deprogramming before arriving upon and honestly accepting the above advice.



I cannot speak for anyone else, but by Gawd, Marc, you nailed it right on the head for me. Bravo, and take a bow, my good man. Fabulous, simply fabulous!




crazyml -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/11/2012 12:14:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls


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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

I rather like the men that can take beer bottle caps off with their teeth. Only a pussy uses a bottle opener. So, I'd start there. Hand him a beer.


Only a pussy uses a bottle opener? Now there's a visual I'll have a hard time getting shuck of!


One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster...




crazyml -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/11/2012 12:22:25 AM)

Hey OP... here's the non snarky response...

Take a look at barelynangel's post, a really superb set of ideas from a woman's perspective. Her whole post is quotable but for the sake of space I'll quote the bit that (for me) was the highlight..
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ORIGINAL: barelynangel
He expects the best out of himself.  When he is not happy with something he will work to make the changes necessary for him to achieve that happiness -- whether its with his life, his career, his family, his friends, or himself.   He is a master of himself.



And also MarcEsadrian's post...


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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
Look for a male you can look up to and who can lead you well. Look for a male who will mentor you and even protect you, but who also won't take any of your shit in all its veiled and sundry forms. Look for a male who will call you out on the lies you tell yourself. Look for a male who will put you in your place. Look for a male who will detect and prune your voluptuously narcissistic female ego beyond all recognition or reason for regrowth. Look for a male who will inspire you to love him and follow him into Hell, if need be.


From my perspective... the answer is simply "You'll know one when you see one".






crazyml -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/11/2012 12:23:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

When you first meet, hand him a coil of barbed wire. If he chews it up and spits out ten-penny nails, he's an alpha male.

What if he shits lag bolts?


Out of interest, and I'm not asking for myself - I have this "friend" who shits exact replicas of the SS Great Britain after munching on barbed wire... is he an alpha male too?




FrostedFlake -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/11/2012 1:12:13 AM)

Look at the ass on that sum bitch! Must be hello fast!


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Duskypearls -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/11/2012 7:02:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crazyml


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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls


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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

I rather like the men that can take beer bottle caps off with their teeth. Only a pussy uses a bottle opener. So, I'd start there. Hand him a beer.


Only a pussy uses a bottle opener? Now there's a visual I'll have a hard time getting shuck of!


One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster...


Oh Crazy, you is one crazy cutie, and funny, too, but now I'm getting disturbing images of how that can of oysters is going to be opened. Therapy, I need therapy, I tell you!!!




LaTigresse -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/11/2012 7:49:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Hey OP... here's the non snarky response...

Take a look at barelynangel's post, a really superb set of ideas from a woman's perspective. Her whole post is quotable but for the sake of space I'll quote the bit that (for me) was the highlight..
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ORIGINAL: barelynangel
He expects the best out of himself.  When he is not happy with something he will work to make the changes necessary for him to achieve that happiness -- whether its with his life, his career, his family, his friends, or himself.   He is a master of himself.



And also MarcEsadrian's post...


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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
Look for a male you can look up to and who can lead you well. Look for a male who will mentor you and even protect you, but who also won't take any of your shit in all its veiled and sundry forms. Look for a male who will call you out on the lies you tell yourself. Look for a male who will put you in your place. Look for a male who will detect and prune your voluptuously narcissistic female ego beyond all recognition or reason for regrowth. Look for a male who will inspire you to love him and follow him into Hell, if need be.


From my perspective... the answer is simply "You'll know one when you see one".



I agree but would make it non gender specific.........only because I don't see it as being a gender issue but instead, an M/s issue.




SinFix -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/11/2012 8:26:29 AM)

My first thought is.. he will have "grade A choice Beef" tattooed on his forhead....




crazyml -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/12/2012 1:03:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I agree but would make it non gender specific.........only because I don't see it as being a gender issue but instead, an M/s issue.



Really good point!




gungadin09 -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/12/2012 4:05:42 AM)

You take whatever your definition of a "real man" is, and apply it to him.  Obviously.

pam




fucktoyprincess -> RE: How Can I tell if He's a Real Man? (1/12/2012 6:10:48 AM)

I personally think the concept of alpha, beta (and gamma and omega) males and females comes to us from the study of non-human mammals, and does not translate as easily to the human world. Also, it is quite misconstrued. For example, as applied to the non-human mammal world, there is only ONE alpha male in the community; beta male refers to the "second in command" - the one who takes over if something happens to the alpha male - in other words, "beta" does not mean some sort of inferior male, it means "second" as beta is the second letter of the Greek alphabet. So while it has become popular to speak of alpha and beta males in the human world, I don't actually feel like it is meaningful. It is also not meaningful when thinking about BDSM role. I know submissive men who are stereotypically "alpha" in their demeanor. Has ZERO to do with their preferred role in the bedroom.

But leaving that aside for the moment, if we define "alpha" as simply someone who is powerful (whether female or male), then it begs the question of what it is that makes them powerful. Power can come from many sources - looks, strength/athleticism, intelligence, money, hereditary social standing (like the Queen of England), etc. But to me, power does not translate into an automatic set of behavioral traits. Being powerful because you are more attractive than others doesn't mean you have to act like an asshole to be alpha. You are alpha because on the dimension of looks, you are stronger than others. Same with anything else. Power does not equate to behaving like a controlling person. Power means control. There is a huge difference. Some of the most powerful men in any society are those who are quietly working behind the scenes and who have a huge impact on our society, and yet, most people would not even know who they are if they walked down the street. Is that "alpha"? Or is the tall oaf who demands constant attention from those in his presence "alpha", even if he has zero influence on actual society. I feel there is no way to define this in a meaningful and universal way. For each person on this thread, something different will come to mind when they hear the term "alpha" - and for some it has positive connotations, and for others negative.

So to the OP, you have something deep in your mind and heart that you are searching for, and you are using "alpha" as short hand for it - but really, what is it that YOU are looking for in a MAN? You would like him to have some source of power, but that could mean any source of power, or a combination of certain sources of power. Only you know what you are attracted to. Men command respect in many different ways. Figure out what dimensions are most meaningful to you, and then find the men who fit that. And don't worry about what others think, because what others think is largely irrelevant, as long as you are with someone who you respect.

One of my best BDSM relationships was with a Dominant sadist whose main source of power were his looks and intelligence. But he was actually extremely shy in public. But his good looks turned heads. And when he spoke, people (powerful women AND powerful men) would truly listen because he had thoughtful insightful things to say. And he also called his mother regularly and told her he loved her. He also had a kid-like awe about the world, and as a result got along really well with his nieces and nephews. What does "alpha" mean to you?




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