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Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/29/2011 5:56:06 PM   
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Been out of the lifestyle for a while. Thought I'd start a thread to see what current favorite responses are to your sub's transgressions.
I'll start off with my old favorites...

Transgression: speaking out of turn when silence requested (safe word excepted)
Response - 1st offense - verbal chiding, 2nd offense - kneeling in corner 2 minutes, 3rd offense in a single scene - he earns the gag for an hour.

T: Orgasm without permission
R: He pleasures me orally with his hands bound me until I orgasm

T: Cheeky comment in private scene
R: 5 playful spanks, 5 additional added for each repeat in a scene (last sub loved this one too much, actually we both did)

who's next...
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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/29/2011 6:05:24 PM   
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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/29/2011 6:30:33 PM   
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I'm kind of, well, unpredictable as far as those things go. My response depends on the specific situation that brought the "transgression" about. Also, I see you're new here so:

And, I see you're from my state. Hi there.

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/29/2011 6:38:25 PM   
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Do you have all this written down?

Oral sex that doesn't involve hands in some fashion is just NOT satisfactory.

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/29/2011 6:40:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Do you have all this written down?

Oral sex that doesn't involve hands in some fashion is just NOT satisfactory.

I'm with ya on that!!!

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/29/2011 8:25:03 PM   
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Thanks for the kind welcome.
Quite the luddite here - kids finally got me a computer and online so I can see videos of the new grandkids! (I don't even have a TV, just a radio & my cd player - oh and my 8 track still works too!)

Do I have my favorite "transgression responses" written down - why yes!
I kept a detailed journal back in the day. Referred to it often when my mind went blank (not in front of the sub of course)

My how I am impressed with how free the information is here.
I was a medic in the navy, we used to find each other by accident back in the day. My how Navy medical folks were kinky & horny!!! I hear it is the same today...

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 1:07:45 AM   
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Hi Molly, question for you? Since when was giving oral deemed punishment?

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 8:09:50 AM   
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Well MissMolly... considering your post in another thread and now this one, I do have to wonder if you are here to teach us how its done properly, per your comments on mentoring and your writing. Why would anyone enter a group of people basically and share this particular bit of information about yourself to start off with? You found what we said in another discipline thread, faulty somehow, thus... this thread. (I assume or this is what it looks like to me.)

For you and yours, your little structure for discipline may work very well, for me, that wouldn't work. I am in relationships with adults and I don't believe I need to keep track of how many offenses they have made and at which level of punishment we are at. Not because I don't wish to be accountable, but simply because there isn't enough time in a day for me to give myself the punishment of dealing with someone that repeats offenses and that I must constantly instruct, keep watch of and punish. I didn't even do that with children, why the hell would I do it with an adult?

Transgressions are not something I see as playfulness or anything close to something that gets playfulness. Transgressions are something serious in my household. Playful smart ass comments... well... if he knows me, which he should by the time any punishment would be something I would do if I indeed would punish... would not be considered a transgression unless it was one. Then he wouldn't be getting some funishment out of it.

Not everyone uses a punishment dynamic. There may be ramifications to certain things, brought in by structure, requests to change something or not do something, etc. Anyone with me ought to know that if I request it, structure it and want a certain thing, if they wish to be with me... they really ought to do that. You act the way I want an adult partner to act or you don't. You do and we are happy, you don't and we aren't.


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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 8:25:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMollyWA

Been out of the lifestyle for a while. Thought I'd start a thread to see what current favorite responses are to your sub's transgressions.
I'll start off with my old favorites...

Transgression: speaking out of turn when silence requested (safe word excepted)
Response - 1st offense - verbal chiding, 2nd offense - kneeling in corner 2 minutes, 3rd offense in a single scene - he earns the gag for an hour.

If you requested he be silent than he doesn't get a turn to speak so this seems pointless.

T: Orgasm without permission
R: He pleasures me orally with his hands bound me until I orgasm

If I did this he would just get off again...so *again* no point.

T: Cheeky comment in private scene
R: 5 playful spanks, 5 additional added for each repeat in a scene (last sub loved this one too much, actually we both did)

This is actually one of the things I love about him. It took me years to get him to feel that he can speak freely. I'm not going to stop him now.

who's next...



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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 8:48:17 AM   
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Kneeling in a corner for 2 minutes ? That would have to be the easiest punishment I have ever had.

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 9:23:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Kneeling in a corner for 2 minutes ? That would have to be the easiest punishment I have ever had.


Not a Catholic schoolboy, eh?

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 10:22:57 AM   
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With Chael I don't use any punishments. It's not part of our dynamic.

With others I tend to use a sharp slap across the face - and if that's needed more than once every couple-three months I rethink having the relationship....and if I have to rethink a relationship that basically means it's over.

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 11:21:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Well MissMolly... considering your post in another thread and now this one, I do have to wonder if you are here to teach us how its done properly, per your comments on mentoring and your writing. Why would anyone enter a group of people basically and share this particular bit of information about yourself to start off with? You found what we said in another discipline thread, faulty somehow, thus... this thread. (I assume or this is what it looks like to me.)

For you and yours, your little structure for discipline may work very well, for me, that wouldn't work. I am in relationships with adults and I don't believe I need to keep track of how many offenses they have made and at which level of punishment we are at. Not because I don't wish to be accountable, but simply because there isn't enough time in a day for me to give myself the punishment of dealing with someone that repeats offenses and that I must constantly instruct, keep watch of and punish. I didn't even do that with children, why the hell would I do it with an adult?

Transgressions are not something I see as playfulness or anything close to something that gets playfulness. Transgressions are something serious in my household. Playful smart ass comments... well... if he knows me, which he should by the time any punishment would be something I would do if I indeed would punish... would not be considered a transgression unless it was one. Then he wouldn't be getting some funishment out of it.

Not everyone uses a punishment dynamic. There may be ramifications to certain things, brought in by structure, requests to change something or not do something, etc. Anyone with me ought to know that if I request it, structure it and want a certain thing, if they wish to be with me... they really ought to do that. You act the way I want an adult partner to act or you don't. You do and we are happy, you don't and we aren't.



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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 11:41:14 AM   
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I'm a little confused by all the punishment threads lately. I thought the idea was for the sub to want to do what they were told, so why are there so many transgressions? I can see failing at something really hard to do, but being quiet?

Do many subs out there really keep on talking when told to shut up?



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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 11:54:01 AM   
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I'm a little confused by all the punishment threads lately. I thought the idea was for the sub to want to do what they were told, so why are there so many transgressions? I can see failing at something really hard to do, but being quiet?

Do many subs out there really keep on talking when told to shut up?





Not really, no. But lots of folks like to play the game of Bad Girl/Boy and Disciplinarian. And then there's the group of folks who conflate Dominance with Controlling/Micromanaging. And the submissives who think that being submissive means they have checked their brains at the door.

I can't imagine having a sub that didnt want to please me...why would they want to serve me otherwise?

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 11:59:45 AM   
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Seems to me the OP is explaining a scene. For many, its not a scene. For some, its only that. Just sayin....

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 12:07:51 PM   
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theres a huge difference between punishment and discipline for me
I enjoy discipline, Discipline that covers a whole wedge on its own.
If I have to punish, then Im not a happy camper and its not FUN. Nor is it meant to be
I havent had to "punish" mine for oh four years.

Punishment is to correct unwanted behaviour
I find myself to be at fault if I need to punish him.
It means I missed his cues, I missed his attempts to talk about an issue and it means I need to slap myself with a cue.
He just doesnt "do things" to be punished for.
Thank god, cos I would be a pisssssy bitch and no one needs to see that
YMMV< its just how I feel



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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 12:13:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SweetCheri

I'm a little confused by all the punishment threads lately. I thought the idea was for the sub to want to do what they were told, so why are there so many transgressions? I can see failing at something really hard to do, but being quiet?

Do many subs out there really keep on talking when told to shut up?




A lot of people that pay to play will push a dom/me just so they can get hurt in the way they want or to test limits of said dom/me to try and control them.

In the same way a lot of(from what I have seen "lifestyle") dommes will set men up for things they can not do just so they can hurt them later. Though in most of the cases I have seen where this happens it comes from a woman that is in some way trying to get even with the male gender.

You have given me a thought though(inner sadist screaming) maybe someone doing this would just want to see some cute naked nookie(because I don't care for the word canuck) cry...it might look pretty.


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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 1:04:50 PM   
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Oral sex that doesn't involve hands in some fashion is just NOT satisfactory.


Isn't it? Why not?

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RE: Favorite responses to sub's "transgressions" - 12/30/2011 3:19:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
Oral sex that doesn't involve hands in some fashion is just NOT satisfactory.


Isn't it? Why not?


We'll talk later, Darling. I suspect more than a few ladies will agree with me, but I have Internet TMI limits.

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