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Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 9:27:15 AM   
lisa1978


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I have been getting a lot of messages and along with profiles from dominants who focus a large part if not all of their words on training me, with very few words in regards to owning me and talk about bigger picture stuff. It is that the word train is all over their profiles and messages. I am not talking about the obvious frauds on the site but from dominants that appear to be honest and sincere.

My question is this something to be alarmed about?

I have a problem of being too literal and to me when all I read is about training I picture two things. Either someone who has only thought about this aspect and nothing else or someone who enjoys training more than anything and once this is basically accomplished will grow bored and the relationship is doomed. I have asked a few about this, but when you ask a slanted question like that, you have to wonder how honest the answer back is.




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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 9:40:42 AM   
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I love the word 'training'.  It makes me feel secure in the fact that if it all goes wrong, I can get a job in the circus balancing a ball on my nose whilst clapping my hands together

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 10:25:15 AM   
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Training is an elusive term of the lifestyle. Many belive that subs/slaves must be trained and thus they teach them all kinds of kinky stuff as part of their training. Much like the terms punishment and discipline have become a form of play. "I've been a naughty girl...I need to be spanked." The term training has become the "Masters" excuse for playing with someone. "I'm not playing with you...I'm training you!"

Each dominant or owner is different and thus have slightly different requirements. I for one, model my house after the ole manor houses of the Victorian or Edwardian ages and slaves in my house are assigned positions accordingly. Thus a new slave to my house would need to learn how such a house operated to fullfil my desires. Others operate more like an extended family and training is just a matter of teaching a new sub/slave your personal likes and dislikes.

Then there are those that think they must break the slaves will and condition them into doing all kinds of strange things. They have some model of what an ultiment slave should be and try and beat them into that mold. Once they have done so their chalenge is over and they will find their next subject to abuse, I'm sorry train.

Slavery is an internal journey of self discovery. All I can really do is create a structured environment with rules and concequences, but its up to the slave to find their way to where it is they are going. I keep them safe and nurture them as they find their way to where it is they must go. Hence, allowing someone to be of use vs being used. It is the slave that enslaves themself. I just provide a safe place for them to do it. So in truth, I nor anyone else can train someone to be a slave/sub, they train themselves. We can provide the environment and answer questions. I can provide the yang your ying needs to play against, but I can't make you something you are not.

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 10:25:37 AM   
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Depends on the person.

I never offer to own someone, I offer to train them. The training period is that time that we can get to know each other in a Ds way after taking the time to get more acquainted outside a Ds dynamic. I've also had people come to me who want to learn about BDSM and Ds and variations of play or service who trust me (for whatever reason) and feel I'd be a good teacher. I've had dominant women approach me about further training for their husbands because they know I'm not interested necessarily in acquiring another slave but I love teaching -- I've done this for two women who I felt were sincere.

I have taught about two dozen young people in this fashion; I've gone on to own five others.

Training, in my opinion, is a great way to learn about BDSM, Ds, and a potential partner.

However training might also be a way for someone to say they just want play time or they just want temporary time.

The only way to know is to ask.

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 10:33:43 AM   
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When I first posted my profile all I got was "strict"..... "I  will be firm and strict in your training". To be honest I had this "WTF does 'strict' mean?". It sounds like perhaps the same concept to me. It is offering to train someone, or be strict with someone, when you haven't established they need you to be training them or for you to be strict with them. It is rather odd.

I do not know how you feel about the training offers, but it turns me off to see the word "strict" from a dom. I try extremely hard to please my One, why would I need "strictness" from him? Not my thing..lol

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 10:34:33 AM   
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I wrote this article a while ago and posted it on another forum... it's long, but if people don't wanna read it, scroll past ~grins~

When we speak of training in the D/s lifestyle, usually only a few things come to mind, most of them sexual. When we limit our concepts like this, we miss out on opportunities to help ourselves and our partners grow. There are so many possible types and styles of training I couldn't begin to list them all. And they can come from different sources as well. There can be training in certain psychological areas, activity based training, etiquette training, you name it.

Training For The Submissive

Let's say I am a Mistress who also entertains a lot within the vanilla world (career, huge family, whatever). I might instruct my slave to take courses at the local college in cooking, flower arranging, calligraphy, you name it, just to expand the slave's skills in doing something that I already expect him/her to do.

I might also wish that he/she be a well rounded individual, who furthers his/her education in areas of the arts, history, politics so that he/she may be more capable of making that ongoing consent as my happy, healthy, well-rounded slave forevermore. (I remember buying a "US Government for Dummies" book for cubby not long ago and insisting that he read it cover to cover, turning in a synopsis of each chapter to ensure that he was grasping it. My next assignment was that he be prepared to vote. I didn't care who he voted for, only that he be able to tell me WHY he chose the candidate he did.) Insisting that a slave read the daily paper if nothing else, keeps them current with events in the world, and they are better conversationalists when we want companionship. It becomes a win-win situation for both of us.

My cubby wishes to resume his study of martial arts - a subject he holds great interest in, and one that could benefit he and I because of his increased ability to focus, his heightened ability to provide protection for me and his family, *and* the natural benefits of keeping his body toned and in better shape. I know of some subs that are required to take yoga, aerobics, or simply keep a regularly scheduled walk every day. "A healthy sub is a happy one."

I have a love of "position training". I confess it is not the position itself that I love, rather the graceful transition from one position into another. I have seen an awkward, even overweight submissive begin position training dreading every movement, due to self-consciousness. That same person, two weeks later actually looks forward to their sessions because with simple guidance about shifting body weight, and holding entire series of muscles taut and firm, they are able to assume positions they never thought they could. They gain control over their body in ways they never had before. I have trained mine as well as other dominant's sub/slaves in this manner for years.

You submissive types... Do you hate sports, but find that Master tunes you out and tunes into Monday Night Football? Instead of growing resentful and possibly acting out, start reading the sports page regardless of whether you understand or enjoy it. If you don't understand something, no problem, research it, or (here's a scary one) ASK your Master! The surprise on his face will be priceless, and he should be flattered that you are trying to broaden your mind to accept something he loves.

Years ago I worked on one of those 976 sex hotlines. My call times were almost twice the room average (the room had 100 girls on any given night, and call length was often 6-7 minutes out of a possible 15 - mine were routinely 12-14 minutes). I was often asked to train girls as they were hired. Imagine their confusion and dismay when I would get the guy talking and we'd discuss sports, politics, etc. Time would completely slip away from us and they'd often call back repeatedly just to continue our conversation. I discovered two things on that job, 1.)When men are lonely, they resort to sexual release, and 2.) Men LOVE a woman who can get excited about the things they really enjoy. By reading the newspaper, I was prepared with new and updated topics every day. That works in D/s as well. Always prepare yourself to be His/Her companion FIRST and you will be dear to His/Her heart.

Another great way to increase knowledge and togetherness is to read aloud. I don't care if it's poetry or Harry Potter, reading out loud offers a mental journey that you can both travel together. Whenever we go on road trips I don't suffer from motion sickness and I love to read, so I get elected to read out loud. Choosing which book we are going to take is now a tradition that everyone, (even the 9 yr old) looks forward to. They recently bought Me those "tap lights" so I can hold it close to the page in the dark and not get a ticket for using the map light anymore... ~chuckles~

I love world history. I love movies like Elizabeth, Troy, El Cid, and so forth, because they make the past come alive in ways I can relate to. I will plan to watch "The Last Emperor" one night, and will have only Chinese food for dinner, maybe play Chinese music in the background, and then we're emotionally ready to absorb the movie when the lights go down. Try learning to sew, and surprise Master/Mistress with a costume for the period you are studying.

Training By a Third Party

Perhaps there is a BDSM activity/skill that both Dom/sub desire, but it is likely to bring negative feelings to the surface. Sometimes a Trainer can be brought in to perform the training with the sub. This alleviates the negative backlash between the original couple (especially important for those closet couples who must lead a highly visible vanilla lifestyle on the surface).For example: Do you want your girl to receive anal training? Does she desire someday to receive your full width, length, girth? Anal training can be accomplished through a trusted third party without the trainer ever personally penetrating the sub. The sub can be taught how to administer a safe cleansing enema. She can be instructed to use various plugs and devices on herself with minimal hands on, to help her prepare to open and accept her partner. She can be given relaxation exercises, and mental imagery. All of this can be done within a safe environment between Trainer/charge, without the added baggage of relationship issues that would normally result. Without training, there can be pain. The sacred moment when a Master takes His girls ass the very first time can be charged with huge emotional and physical issues. How sad when the scene is unsuccessful and both are left feeling responsible for failing the other!

Training as a Dominant

I mentioned getting the US Government for Dummies for cubby. Those books are unbelievable! They can consolidate a huge amount of available knowledge into an easily understood (and often enjoyable) read. You dominants who worry that your sub will someday outgrow you? Don't let that happen! Find a topic YOU enjoy, select a book on the subject and read it first... THEN assign it to him/her. You'll find that as his/her mind opens to the subject, so will their appreciation for you because you made it available to them. If the subject merits more study, send them on their own research assignments and have them return to you with information they have discovered that maybe you hadn't... In this way, you've found something you can enjoy together.

cubby loves anything oriental. One day I plan to learn to handle a sword better, so I might construct a scene that will make him cum and THEN get hard... ~giggles~ Knives and swords are a trigger for him anyway, I'll probably need a network of friends to help Me with the aftercare on that one.

My point is, learning can be fun. and learning as a couple/family can offer new avenues to intimacy that might not have ever been there if you hadn't opened your mind to the possibilities.

I have heard it said that a great Dominant always knows how a toy feels on His/Her own body before using it on someone else. I would agree in most cases, especially for those who haven't been practicing within the lifestyle at least five years. There are techniques specifically designed for one flogger and not another. Enema enthusiasts learn quickly that the difference between a "safe" enema and an "unsafe" one may depend upon a 1/2 tsp of salt, one ingredient, or a few degrees of temperature. You don't get this kind of knowledge as easily from a book as you do from a qualified fellow dominant that is willing to show you. In my opinion, a responsible dominant will seek knowledge at every turn and will yield to the experience and advice of someone older, wiser, etc. so long as He/She finds that person trustworthy.

I have an experience to share that illustrates this concept so well. Several years ago, I became acquainted with a fledgling dom who was hungry to know everything (NOW DAMMIT). We've all met them. The dom who runs out, buys the leather pants and some trendy shirt, who quickly buys toys to hang from His belt and who sends His most dazzling smile to every lady who enters the room? Welllll this one also tended to hunger for knowledge from the dominants in the crowd as well. He was full of questions at every turn, and even more ready with follow up questions. After knowing him perhaps six months, I invited him to a small gathering in my home and one of the things we did in my dungeon that night was fireplay. I simply did a fireplay scene with the comment that if someone wished to try this at home, I'd be happy to teach them how to do it safely.

A week later, (honest to God) I was entertaining in my home again (had two dungeon rooms open that night) A friend pulled Me frantically to the other dungeon and there was this fledgling, standing over a girl who was covered in wax, about to pour alcohol onto her and set her on fire!!! He'd claimed that I'd trained him and based on the girl's trust of My safety procedures, she'd willingly agreed to the scene... ~WHEW!~

Apparently this guy had been pumping everyone in our area for info on our "flashiest" scenes, and had built quite a repertoire with unsuspecting subbies who didn't think to call me up and actually *check* His use of me as a reference. (People, don't just ASK for references... CHECK them?)

I guess what I'm saying is YES a dom needs training sometimes too... We're not all born with a mental diagram of the human anatomy, a list of fifteen knots and their proper usage, and an understanding of physics. Some skills can be built out of common sense, but many skills need the guidance of someone who is qualified to teach. Be discerning, use common sense, and if at all possible ASK for help.

As to the question of whether a dom needs training as a submissive? I would word it differently. I would say that some dominants should spend some time as a "bottom" just to know what the experience is like. I don't suggest that doms "be taken down a peg or two", only that they experience some of what they dish out, if it will help them to fully understand and appreciate what their beloveds offer up so willingly to them.

In Closing

The concept of education is one that is near and dear to my heart. The day I stop learning will be the day I stop breathing, I think. Just the act of taking in knowledge is a joy to me because knowledge is power. In a lifestyle of "power exchange" I'd think that would be important to people, but far, far too many people feel uneducated, unrefined, awkward, and shy away from those people who could become their greatest asset.

Throughout all of history, I have learned one thing. The poor and oppressed were ALWAYS kept ignorant. Education was not offered, nay it was refused to those who might realize there is something better out there and reach for it. We take reading and writing for granted, but hundreds of generations were never allowed to read.

When we discuss power exchange, I think of the typical "oppressed submissive" and realize that he/she rarely has opportunity to read anything that might elevate his/her thinking. She/he is rarely encouraged to develop new interests, and is almost always discouraged from having friends or family as a support system. When I see a sub that is isolated, and kept in the dark, I get concerned and observe closely until I can discern whether this is "role play" or reality. If it's reality, I have been known to act on the behalf of the sub in more than one instance.


Question for the forum: What are some other possible areas of study/training that you might suggest for people who find themselves in a slump?


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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 10:49:27 AM   
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Thank you Calandra for that post. People often say that a dominant must first master themselves before they can own others.. What they seem to miss is that includes the vanilla parts of our lives as well. To often I am told that's not lifestyle thats vanilla. It's all related. Its about how we live not what we do that makes it a lifestyle. Wether it means I help someone better understand finacial issues, take a class myself or teaching someone to properly set a table. It is all about making them a more complete person (well rounded) and thus a greater asset to me, themselves or the ones they own.

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 10:50:15 AM   
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Training is a kink for people, specially those who focus on the newbies.  They get a real charge out of it.

Unfortunately, for most people "training" equals "teach you to do what I want sexually and be able to take the kind of scenes I want to dish out."

Just keep the perspective that to them, training is a kink, and that they are obviously putting the kink before the "getting to know you" horse.

And I'll add my own essay here which I think explains my perspective on process of giving tasks as part of training pretty well.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_126816/mpage_1/key_tasks%252Ctop/tm.htm#126816
Tasks from the Top:  An Essay


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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 10:51:30 AM   
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Ms Calandra has the training thing down ... Wow. Cool beans. :)

When most dominants approach me and ask about my 'training' or tell me that I've been 'well trained' I get kind of tickled. I keep expecting them to offer me a milk bone or something ...

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 11:15:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: darq
Ms Calandra has the training thing down ... Wow. Cool beans. :)
When most dominants approach me and ask about my 'training' or tell me that I've been 'well trained' I get kind of tickled. I keep expecting them to offer me a milk bone or something ...


~Giggles~
And when I ask people about their training and abilities they sometimes say
"I can be oral for hours!!!" or some other claptrap... When I say "No, what are your lifeskills? what are some areas in life that you've devoted to bettering yourself?" They get all flustered and go looking for someone who wants to talk about sex....
 
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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 11:29:34 AM   
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Train equates to ... I am going to teach you something.  The question is... what is that Something?

A submissive's first question should be. What is it you want to teach me?  Listen to their answer carefully.  Is if well thought out and actually has some depth or is it alot of vague notions. 

Second question... How are you going to teach me?  Does he have thought out plan... or is it going by the seat of his pants kind of thing.

Within both these two questions there is alot of other questions that need to be asked as one listens to the answers.

Personally, I am not big on the term Training.  It means little to me when someone says it.  For the term itself carries a very large spectrum of views.  It's a term that I seldom use or consider.

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 11:35:32 AM   
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quote:

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Men LOVE a woman who can get excited about the things they really enjoy.


This actaully goes both ways, it's not gender specific.  Unfortunately, seems men spend less time appreciating the enjoyments that women enjoy, at least that is the impression women seem to give to the male species.

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 11:39:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: Calandra
Men LOVE a woman who can get excited about the things they really enjoy.


This actaully goes both ways, it's not gender specific.  Unfortunately, seems men spend less time appreciating the enjoyments that women enjoy, at least that is the impression women seem to give to the male species.


Oh I agree totally! But in that post I was speaking from working in the telephone sex industry... since men are predominantly the ones who call into those lines my mind was stuck in that groove... I HATE it when I say something that can be construed as a generalization... Thanks for catching it. ~smiles~ 

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 11:41:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

Train equates to ... I am going to teach you something.  The question is... what is that Something?



Thank you.  It really is that simple. 

Many are not big on the word, training.  I actually like it.  I am his trained slut.  That does not only mean sexual.  He has thought me critical thinking and self analysis, he has taught me to find my inner strength, he has taught me to let go of needless fears.  He has also taught me how he thinks and what he likes.  He has taught me how to please him, both sexually and non-sexually.

When he and I first began communicating, he told me of some of the things he could train me in.  I asked him for this training.  He worked with me for two months before owning me.  He did not take ownership of me until we met.

For those who ask, how can one train another without being in person?  Well, if two people can communicate well, any ideas can be shared, discussed, debated and taught.  I just completed an online course in school - Did I not learn anything because I wasn't in the same room as the professor? 

Not trying to be challenging here.  But there are many ways in which a person can be trained (on the job training, skills training, among others, come to mind) without assuming one just wants sex.  How much training do we really need to open our legs, after all?

I disagree that training is a kink, for those reasons.  Perhaps if that training is restricted to pet-type training, yes.  But I would not make a general statement that all training is a kink. 

Because I respond as I do to humiliation, when Master recently presented me to another, saying "she is well trained," it really objectified me and made me feel my place.  I loved it!

Anyway, training is not necessarily a bad thing.  It can be very beneficial and rewarding, actually.

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 11:45:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lisa1978

I have been getting a lot of messages and along with profiles from dominants who focus a large part if not all of their words on training me, with very few words in regards to owning me and talk about bigger picture stuff. It is that the word train is all over their profiles and messages. I am not talking about the obvious frauds on the site but from dominants that appear to be honest and sincere.

My question is this something to be alarmed about?

Hi Lisa,

Whether you should be alarmed about it is something you'll have to judge on an individual basis.  All I can do is give you a little more information to work with.

As has already been touched on, for some "training" is a kink, an excuse for play.  So read these profiles and ask yourself if the word "play" fits where they use the word "training".  If so, then perhaps that person was really just talking about how they like to play.

But for some of us, training is a tool in developing a slave, teaching the slave how specifically they are expected to serve.  In that case training, as Calandra points out very well, goes beyond being merely sexual and may include everything from how to serve tea, to how much starch to use on the shirts, to acting as a personal secretary and many other things (formal maid training and chauffer training both come to mind).  When you see these profiles... ask yourself are they talking about this kind of training or just play?

One other point I'll make.  I get letters from potential slaves asking me what I'm "into" and how I train.  They're looking for the usual laundry lists trying to understand what I'm about and what I would do with them.  Its a way of trying to get to know me.  It also makes it a temptation to put such laundry lists in profile, so that the information is already there (though I'm surprised how many submissives don't read profiles either).  Some of these profiles may be dominants who have simply done that, tried to answer those common questions.

I think the one thing that would alarm me, was a "master" who actually felt the need for any "excuse" to play with his slave other than "I feel like it."  To me that indicates they may be new and are probably at least a little insecure.

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 12:03:10 PM   
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I love a well trained slave.  I expect any slave I own to know how to stand, how to kneel, how to perform various domestic duties, as well as some typical (and not so typical) rituals.  I am a professional dancer, and expect my slaves to strive toward doing everything with the grace and fluidity of a dancer.

For some of these things, such as posture and dance, I can train.  For others, I rely on other experts.

Training is a means to an end...and nothing more.  (That doesn't mean the means can't be enjoyable.)

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 12:46:17 PM   
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I have a problem of being too literal and to me when all I read is about training I picture two things. Either someone who has only thought about this aspect and nothing else or someone who enjoys training more than anything and once this is basically accomplished will grow bored and the relationship is doomed. I have asked a few about this, but when you ask a slanted question like that, you have to wonder how honest the answer back is.


First, I love that you post so many great questions. Honestly, in our house "it's a training issue" is often used as a sarcastic joke... We realize that there will most likely be areas where a new slave to our home would need to be taught to understand the how's and why's of the way we prefer things be done. But in my opinion I have to believe that a slave that is happy and where they wish to be in life and in a relationship isn't going to have to go through some rigorous "training" to be pleasing since it would already be in their heart to please their owners. And unless you would be attending some high protocol function there is little point to "training" in particular kneeling or presenting techniques, that is, of course, unless you wish to learn them.
 
My attitude is really pretty simple, I don't care if a slave has very little experience or has been a slave for 25 years... they have never been MY slave therefore they couldn't possibly know how best to serve me. Do I train mine... nope, I will teach what they wish to learn and what it takes to serve me. In the same line of reason I fully expect them to "teach" me what it is that fulfills them in return.
 
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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 12:57:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

Train equates to ... I am going to teach you something.  The question is... what is that Something?

A submissive's first question should be. What is it you want to teach me?  Listen to their answer carefully.  Is if well thought out and actually has some depth or is it alot of vague notions. 

Second question... How are you going to teach me?  Does he have thought out plan... or is it going by the seat of his pants kind of thing.

Within both these two questions there is alot of other questions that need to be asked as one listens to the answers.

Personally, I am not big on the term Training.  It means little to me when someone says it.  For the term itself carries a very large spectrum of views.  It's a term that I seldom use or consider.


Thanks for those two really good questions I am going to steal. I have been trying to think of questions to ask some of these people but the ones I have thought up lead so badly that they have a very good chance of knowing what I want to read.

I often feel like I am going backwards in terms of I learned and lived real time before going on the Internet and terms and their meanings seem more complicated in cyber land. Training is always important and somewhat always on going, but for me the term itself means there is an end at some point and I hope a dominant trains me for their long-term pleasure and not for the fun of training and molding a person.
I completely understand that no matter how much experience I have, training is vital and on an individual basis determined by each dominant.





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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 1:54:22 PM   
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Calandra, thank you for writing that. 

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RE: Training as the focus - 5/30/2006 2:09:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: givemyall

I love the word 'training'.  It makes me feel secure in the fact that if it all goes wrong, I can get a job in the circus balancing a ball on my nose whilst clapping my hands together

 ROTFLMAO

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