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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 1:24:25 PM   
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as long as it doesnt directly affect YOU it isnt important? is that what you are saying?
asking, not strawmanning.


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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 1:30:19 PM   
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 LOL... Yeah, I've got a higher probability of winning the Lottery than being arrested for a bit of fun with the poop-shoot!!!  Alarmist much?!!



Let's just say I wish for you to win the lottery rather than find out about the other the hard way and "Sodomy laws" doesn't just mean anal.

A guy in GA has recently been imprisoned for 5 years for consensual heterosexual oral sex.

Washington DC. sex in any position except missionary is illegal

A blowjob is illegal in many states and can get you up to 20 years in the clink. (watch out Ron)

Washington state, it is illegal to have sex with a virgin even if you just married her.

If you want some entertaining reading, here it is. Dozens of them

http://www.dribbleglass.com/subpages/strange/sexlaws.htm


Santorum might start enforcing this bullshit.

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 1:37:56 PM   
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Do follow along... the below was directed at ME...

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Be careful about saying that.  A lot of nilla couples, much less kinksers, break a half dozen so-called sodomy laws every time they get their freak on.... There's people out there that would be happy to make the arrest.




And I replied...

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I've got a higher probability of winning the Lottery than being arrested for a bit of fun with the poop-shoot!!!




Certainly, if YOU have some verifiable police data demonstrating an epidemic of "sodomy arrests" (as sodomy laws are already "on the books" and enforceable), by all means... please do share your wealth of vital information!!!  





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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 1:45:17 PM   
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Again, many of these laws are already on the books, and ACCORDING TO YOU, "There's people out there that would be happy to make the arrest." -- so why aren't there DROVES of arrests for what teh peeps iz doin' in teh bedroomz by said "people out there that would be happy to make the arrest"?!!

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Santorum might start enforcing this bullshit.



Yeah, and Santa might bring me a Porche for Christmas next year.  I'm sure with the economy being in such a state, that this will be the priority.  PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE ! ! !  



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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 1:56:22 PM   
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I found one little part of this very interesting. It's another misconception that I think needs to be addressed ...

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Lara Jordan specifically asks "Would a President Santorum eliminate a right to privacy...?" and Santorum responds:


While the "right to privacy" certainly can be inferred from several of the amendments to the constitution, nowhere does the constitution say that we have a specific right to privacy.

I don't know if this was Ms. Jordan, trolling to stir up some shit or if even Sen. Santorum is this ignorant of the laws of our land.

I am not saying that I think we shouldn't have as much privacy as possible. I am saying that the constitution does not specifically say: "The People have a right to privacy".

Yes, the fourth and fifth amendments are biggies and certainly can be interpretted to infer a "right to privacy" but, I think the closest argument that could be made for a "right to privacy" would be the ninth amendment. I can't imagine any person smart enough to get elected president that would be dumb enough to try and erase or nullify one of the first ten amendments.

So, while I think that it's a shame that the founding fathers didn't specifically spell out a "right to privacy", they didn't. This is what is causing the huge debate in which we are embroiled, now.

In short, I think the "right to privacy" falls right in there with "seperation of church and state". Technically, it doesn't exist.



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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 2:07:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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Again, many of these laws are already on the books, and ACCORDING TO YOU, "There's people out there that would be happy to make the arrest." -- so why aren't there DROVES of arrests for what teh peeps iz doin' in teh bedroomz by said "people out there that would be happy to make the arrest"?!!

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Santorum might start enforcing this bullshit.



Yeah, and Santa might bring me a Porche for Christmas next year.  I'm sure with the economy being in such a state, that this will be the priority.  PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE ! ! !  



I have found out something about Far Right politicians in the past half century. When the economy is in the shit, for some strange reason they decide that the REAL problem is "Morals" and dammit, we need to fix "morals". Jobs? Well, that'll fix itself when our "Moral Majority" (are you old enough to remember them because they were neither) takes over.

Want proof? Look at the OP. The economy is in shit, Unemployment is sky high due to crappy recent fiscal policies, we're in a war with a foe that is probably unbeatable, we're in debt up to our ears and taxes are getting higher and what does Santorum want to do?

Does he want to get the economy going and create jobs? FUCK NO

"We have laws in states, like the one at the Supreme Court right now, that has sodomy laws and they were there for a purpose. Because, again, I would argue, they undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family. And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution,"

His own words. He says "Sodomy laws and they were there for a purpose"

If he says they were there for a purpose, wouldn't it follow that he intends them to be enforced?

What did he say again he was going to do about the economy and unemployment and the country's 'entitlement mentality' and Afghanistan?

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 2:34:22 PM   
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Columnist Dan Savage, the person developed the hilarious Santorum Google Bomb, reviews Santorum's policy here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/04/rick-santorum-homophobic-frothing

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 2:39:57 PM   
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further evidence of creeping gayness infecting the GOP can be seen in this poster:




Observers anticipate that Santorum will shortly release a statement clarifying his position on inter-faith gay sexual relations.

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 2:45:50 PM   
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HIs supporters remind me of the Funnymentalist faction of islam

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 2:56:59 PM   
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Does he want to get the economy going and create jobs? FUCK NO



Maybe you could at least FLIRT with the idea of the TRUTH?!!


The Santorum vision to unlock American economic greatness and open up the job market again focuses on five simple points to create growth, spur innovation, and ensure prosperity - all centered on freeing the American people and free-enterprise:
 
We must reduce the size and scope of a government that is stifling job creation
Historically, the federal government has been 18% of America's gross domestic product.  If we hope to not be served the fate of the western European countries now embattled with debt crisis after debt crisis, we must return to our historical norms.  This starts by first cutting government spending, capping future government spending, and finally enacting a Balanced Budget Amendment to our constitution.
 
Creating a tax structure that does not punish, but encourages innovation and entrepreneurship
First and foremost, America must no longer have a tax regime that punishes the individual, the small business, or the corporation but encourages growth in America.  Rick Santorum believes we need to reduce taxes on individuals across the board, making the system simpler, flatter, and fairer.  Likewise, we must cut the corporate tax rate in half, so that we can once again be competitive with the rest of the industrialized world.  However, we must go further and cut the tax rate to zero for all manufacturers irrespective of the tax paying entity so we can keep jobs in America.  Manufacturing has epitomized the loss of American jobs and innovation over the past several decades, and by reinvigorating this crucial sector of our economy the multiplier effect on our entire economy will spur on economic and job growth not seen in three decades.  We must also permanently extend the current Capital Gains and Dividend Tax rates, repeal the Death Tax, and repatriate taxable income outside the United States at a rate of 5% to induce job creation here in America rather than abroad.  And, we must not only encourage innovation, but celebrate it by no longer holding entrepreneurs hostage year-in and year-out through the tax code's treatment of the research and development of new and promising discoveries - regardless of whether it is the next ground-breaking cancer treatment or a component for a fuel-efficient engine.
 
Removing the regulatory burdens that hold our economic engine Back
The first thing nearly every executive will tell you, from sole proprietors to CEOs of international conglomerates: the existing federal regulatory structure in untenable.  From the enactment of the boondoggle of ObamaCare to the CO2 regulations of the EPA, President Obama has single-handedly placed weight after weight on our job market and economy as a whole - and Rick Santorum would immediately repeal the regulatory alphabet soup implemented by the Obama Administration.  This also means ensuring that government agencies stay within their intended framework, most notably the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) that has diverted from its purpose of protecting the rights of workers to doing the political work of President Obama's staunches union allies. Furthermore, while legislation pending before Congress is a start, Rick Santorum believes we need to streamline the patent process to unclog the patent backlog and encourage innovation in America.  And likewise, to ensure America remains the global beacon of biotechnology, we must reform the transparency of the Food and Drug Administration's approval process so entrepreneurs and investors alike can have surety in the process.  Finally, Rick Santorum believes that each new federal law and reauthorization of existing laws should be simpler and limit the ability of federal agencies to expand upon the law through regulation.
 
Ensuring global capital and credit markets Believe in America again
We must repeal the burdensome Sarbanes-Oxley law that not only did not prevent the financial crisis, but chased capital overseas.  At the same time, we must repeal Dodd-Frank before it can be fully-implemented and start from scratch to enact real reform that ensures the 2008 financial crisis does not happen again but at the same time does not place impediments in the way of capital formation and credit availability for average Americans.  Rick Santorum believes we should not enshrine "too big to fail," and both of these laws do just that. 
 
Tap America's vast domestic resources to power our 21st Century economy
Rick Santorum believes we need to stop being naïve, put aside our dreams of "green jobs," and focus on the great domestic resources at our disposal.  This means we need an all-of-the-above energy policy that utilizes oil, natural gas, coal, and nuclear energy to power our economy and empower the American worker.  To do this, we must start by eliminating the Obama Administration's roadblocks to oil exploration in the Gulf of Mexico, along the Outer Continental Shelf, and onshore - including in ANWR.  Furthermore, no new natural gas regulations, such as those being debated by Congress, should be enacted.  The states are regulating the natural gas industry and there is no reason for the federal government to get involved.  Federal regulation for federal regulation's sake serves no purpose - and in this instance it not only impedes job growth, but weakens our national security.

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:05:41 PM   
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Yeah, pretty much all asswipe.

Look, there are two major thrusts to business, sell something, and cut costs. Costs are cut from highest percent to lowest percent, and when labor levels are less than about 10-14% of business costs, they will move on to taxes as an issue.  Not even on the fucking radar at present.

How do we sell more, well the current deal is to make cheap ass shit and sell it without regard to its suitability and durability.

Cut costs is easy, since labor is a big cost we find the cheapest labor to make the shitty goods we sell,  and it has moved from japan to mexico to the phillipines to indonesia and china......next shot is wherever the cheapest labor can be found. if someone gets $1 a day in indonesia, and I can get the same shit made in sri lanka for 0.50 cents a day....thats where its going.

At present taxes and regulation (both nebulous and unnamed except in 15th handed anecdotes or by comparing surface level nomenclature and using it as the fact...as in you know they have socialist in their party name, so they must be socialists...)

So, name these horrific regulations that should be dismantled...    

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:09:20 PM   
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oh a man of vision, a man of ideas, a man of exactly the same "except for the actual wording"" as all the others
At least Herman had 999 ....everything these bozos have is so generalised, it saves them making up lies " talking points" and promises. To actually change things there are no CONCRETE ANYTHING.

decrease safety, hygiene & quality by deregulating
allowing banks to screw anyone they want
Fuck the environment by deregulating pollution , dangerous water and air
Frack the earth for fun and earthquakes
Fuck the world for profit
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Fuck the workers, fuck the consumers, fuck everyone except the bosses
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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:13:36 PM   
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Yeah, pretty much all asswipe.



Only to a Lib/Lefty who very obviously DIDN'T read... and THE BELOW proves it...

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Cut costs is easy, since labor is a big cost we find the cheapest labor to make the shitty goods we sell,  and it has moved from japan to mexico to the phillipines to indonesia and china...







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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:15:22 PM   
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China is looking into fracking for natural gas, in fact they are more than looking into it, they are buying into companies to have them come and teach them how and they have more than anyone else in the world.

so, supplies of that are abundant, yet we see prices steadily climbing up.

Bout the same situation in oil for us, there is no shortage, and the shale and sand oil will last way past 12/31/3100.  Price is artificially high.

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:17:45 PM   
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To actually change things there are no CONCRETE ANYTHING.



Yeah... "no CONCRETE ANYTHING"...

"...cut the tax rate to zero for all manufacturers irrespective of the tax paying entity so we can keep jobs in America"

OOPSIES... hmmm... pretty "concrete" -- reading is your friend.



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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:18:47 PM   
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and as I pointed out, completely fucking stupid and a nothingness of a fantasy.

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:23:20 PM   
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And as I pointed out, only to a Lib/Lefty.  Yeah, DAMN ALL THOSE MANUFACTURING JOBS... let them stay in China.  Screw anyone's attempts/ideas to bring manuracturing back to the USA and to US Workers!!!  Bravo Libs!!!



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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:24:49 PM   
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The first part of that path entails raising higher revenues. Everyone remembers Reagan's 1981 tax cuts. His admirers are less likely to tout the tax hikes he accepted as the 1981 recession and his own tax cuts began to unravel his long-term fiscal picture--a large tax increase on business in 1982, higher payroll taxes enacted in 1983 and higher energy taxes in 1984. A decade later, when a serious recession and higher spending began to upend the fiscal outlook again, the first President Bush similarly raised taxes on higher-income people in 1991; Bill Clinton doubled down and raised them again in 1993.

http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/02/barack-obama-ronald-reagan-budget-taxes-opinions-contributors-rob-shapiro.html

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:27:13 PM   
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Yeah, pretty much all asswipe.



Only to a Lib/Lefty who very obviously DIDN'T read... and THE BELOW proves it...

quote:



Cut costs is easy, since labor is a big cost we find the cheapest labor to make the shitty goods we sell,  and it has moved from japan to mexico to the phillipines to indonesia and china...








I did read, and it only sounds real to righty nazis who havent any grounding or factual encounters in this stuff.

What portion of costs are taxes?  What are these horrific regulations?




However, we must go further and cut the tax rate to zero for all manufacturers irrespective of the tax paying entity so we can keep jobs in America.

tres stupido.



This also means ensuring that government agencies stay within their intended framework, most notably the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) that has diverted from its purpose of protecting the rights of workers to doing the political work of President Obama's staunches union allies.
 

Uhhhhhh tres tres quattro stupido.

and so on....

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RE: Rick Santorum Wants into Your Bedroom - 1/4/2012 3:32:52 PM   
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righty nazis



I was wondering how long it'd take for the typical Lib/Lefty "nazi" attack?!!  Y'all never disappoint.



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