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outhere69 -> RE: Ok Law Dawgs! Who wants to take a shot at this? (1/9/2012 6:15:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: outhere69

Say RO, why don't you just go send all this stuff to all your local representatives. They may care more than we do.

For that matter, why do you argue these threads here? Surely you'll get more of a reception with Alex Jones, prisonplanet, etc.

we are on a first name basis

fortunately they take it seriously

when all else fails scream tinfoil, alex jones, anliens and lizards!

why study law?  It has nothing to do with you right? 


You frequently posted from prisonplanet in the past, IIRC, and also mentioned other sites that you talked law on.  That's why I figured there would be more interest.

The problem is that you don't study law; you grab bits here and bits there, and combine them into some unique amalgam that doesn't reflect reality.




Real0ne -> RE: Ok Law Dawgs! Who wants to take a shot at this? (1/9/2012 10:48:50 PM)

First off I have no fucking clue what IIRC is.

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******IIRCInteractive Illinois Report Card

****IIRCIf I Read Correctly

***IIRCIf I Recall/Remember Correctly

***IIRCIf I Really Cared

***IIRCImage and Identity Research Collective

***IIRCIf I Recollect Correctly

***IIRCImpedance Imaging Research Center (Korea)

**IIRCIf It Really Counts

**IIRCInternational Internet Recruiting Consultants, Inc.


**IIRCInternational Inter-Society Research Committee (on Nuclear Codes and Standards)

**IIRCInternet Information Research Center

**IIRCIraqi Islamic Reconciliation Conference

**IIRCImmunity and Infection Research Centre

**IIRCInterstate Insurance Receivership Compact

**IIRCIn Internet Relay Chat

**IIRCInformation Integrity Research Centre (UK)

**IIRCInternational Interpretation Resource Center

**IIRCInternational Interdisciplinary Research Colloquium

**IIRCInactive Item Review Code (US DoD)

**IIRCIsn't It Really Cool

**IIRCIVF & Infertilty Research Centre (Calcutta, India)



apparently neither does anyone else.



I already explained the prison planet thing.  That was pa hunks gig.  Arguing world trade center and 911 in 2004 and 2005 they were the only people who put it out there while mass media was singing osama mantra.  Now we know and have long since proved it was all collusion and fraud.  You people demanded citations and at that time jones was the ONLY one in the media who had them!  So pretending that I depend on jones rather than do my own work and research is intellectually dishonest and complete mischaracterization as I RARELY quote anything from jones and if I do it is the guest he has on that I am citing NOT HIM.   Like I said when you people are beaten to a pulp you play the tinfoil card, it standard operating procedure on ALL boards btw and no one with 1/2 of a brain falls for that shit anymore.

__and of course mainstream news is the gospel right?  you dont really want to go there do you?

The problem is that there is more than one reality and you people fail to see anything outside of the relativity of what is on the surface in front of your faces.

When you base your construction on the relativity of the thug government we have today then anaything goes. 

Whatever they do to you is reality regardless of what they are supposed to do and will forever be your reality because you do not know any other way of life.  People do not know any better!

The supreme court said its not up to the courts to teach you your rights.  If you do not know them too bad so sad, you go down in flames and that is YOUR reality.   __and it certainly is not their responsiblity to teach you the lines between civil "priviledges and immunities" and the "rights of the man".  (where your real power is)

Not only do I know my rights as historically intended, but I know how they, the gubafia et al,  use syntax terrorism to defraud and trick the public with thuggery to force it upon you in the "name" of "services" upon us in violation of our rights with the judges as gate keepers.

Its all about fleecing the sheep and extorting money from the public.

Once a court makes a decision its precedence and that overrides legislatures.  If those decisions are corrupt all the courts need do is claim that any claim to the contrary is frivilous.  Click that lock just closed, you have been deprived of due process and no court will over turn it.  Bend over spread your cheeks and brace for your sand paper fucking.    That is reality today Neo.

If people ever get a clue they would realize that government is nothing more than a gang of corporations and associations institutionalized and set up no different than any mafia organization who do assassinations mass murder and in collusion with one another claim authority to rule over you.

Like everyone else you apparently blindly accepted that premise.

In my world, it is I who creates the government not the government who creates me.

If they think for one second you are calling them because you have a complaint or intend to file a complaint ALL agencies will withhold as much information from you as possible.

Try it sometime.  Call one agency up and let them know you are looking for information regarding xyz because you think another agency is out of line and see what happens.   doors slam in your face.

that is NOT government of the people.

I posted the case over open records of this state a few posts back where the chief justice in dissent pointed out how they turned everything the legislature did completely upside down to completely gut the "honest government" open records laws of this state and that corrupt supreme court decision stands as the law of the land.   Apparently you did not bother to read it or did not understand what you read if you did, because I cannot imagine anyone talking like that is they did.

Hell look where this purely political thread wound up.

In as much as that shoe argument goes, I proved that beyond any reasonable doubt that what I stated fell within the definitions.  But then what does reasonable have to do with protecting the shit mess that you are all calling reality?

When whats left behind smells like shit, rather than clean it up just snort another hit of perfume to cover the stench and everything is fine now.  Your reality is not disturbed.


But thats the reality that you purport is correct and "proper" right?








outhere69 -> RE: Ok Law Dawgs! Who wants to take a shot at this? (1/10/2012 6:26:05 PM)

If I Remember Correctly




Real0ne -> RE: Ok Law Dawgs! Who wants to take a shot at this? (1/15/2012 11:10:32 AM)

OH YEH BUH BUH HERE WE GO!


Supreme Court of United States:

This Court long ago recognized that the nature of our Federal Union and our constitutional concepts of personal liberty unite to require that all citizens be free to travel throughout the length and breadth of our land uninhibited by statutes, rules, or regulations which unreasonably burden or restrict this movement.

Violation of a religious RIGHT is an unreasonable burden.


That 630*630 proposition was early stated by Chief Justice Taney in the Passenger Cases, 7 How. 283, 492 (1849):

    "For all the great purposes for which the Federal government was formed, we are one people, with one common country. We are all citizens of the United States; and, as members of the same community, must have the right to pass and repass through every part of it without interruption, as freely as in our own States."

We have no occasion to ascribe the source of this right to travel interstate to a particular constitutional provision.[8] It suffices that, as MR. JUSTICE STEWART said for the Court in United States v. Guest, 383 U. S. 745, 757-758 (1966):

    "The constitutional right to travel from one State to another . . . occupies a position fundamental to the concept of our Federal Union. It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized.

    ". . . [T]he right finds no explicit mention in the Constitution. The reason, it has been suggested, is 631*631 that a right so elementary was conceived from the beginning to be a necessary concomitant of the stronger Union the Constitution created. In any event, freedom to travel throughout the United States has long been recognized as a basic right under the Constitution."




Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to remove from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the Fourteenth Amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution.
And so as to the right to contract. The liberty, of which the deprivation without due process of law is forbidden, "means not only the right of the citizen to be free from the mere physical restraint of his person, as by incarceration, but the term is deemed to embrace the right of the citizen to be free in the enjoyment of all his faculties; to be free to use them in all lawful ways; to live and work where he will; to earn his livelihood by any lawful calling; to pursue any livelihood or avocation, and for that purpose to enter into all contracts which may be proper, necessary and essential to his carrying out to a successful conclusion the purpose above mentioned; . . . although it may be conceded that this right to contract in relation to persons or property or to do business within the jurisdiction of the State may be regulated and sometimes prohibited when the contracts or business conflict with the policy of the State as contained in its statutes." Allgeyer v. Louisiana, 165 U.S. 578, 589, 591; Holden v. Hardy, 169 U.S. 366.



AINT THAT JUST A KICK IN THE NUTS!









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