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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well when you miss the boat like that and go off on every tangent known to man yeh.

That's exactly what you do, and what I am trying to tell you.  Good catch!!!!  Now maybe you will hold back a little on the legal fantasy.  Come up with something of import.

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

Oh, and

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
"Being transported" isn't a verb either.

"Once you know what to look for, passive constructions are easy to spot. Look for a form of "to be" (is, are, am , was, were, has been, have been, had been, will be, will have been, being) followed by a past participle. (The past participle is a form of the verb that typically, but not always, ends in "-ed." Some exceptions to the "-ed" rule are words like "paid" (not "payed") and "driven." (not "drived"). Here's a sure-fire formula for identifying the passive voice:

form of "to be" + past participle = passive voice"

http://writingcenter.unc.edu/resources/handouts-demos/citation/passive-voice

Edit: And thinking about it more, I have to change my mind on the "oversimplifying" it statement, too.

After all, you look at the sentence: "Transport is a verb"...actually, transport is the subject of the sentence with "is" as the verb; but it's meaning is clear.

So eh. My original statement still works as intended.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

or holding or bearing

more cherry picking

nope, epic failure Real, that is definitely not what it is saying, and that is cherry picking.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

which is why everyone today is ignorant of the law!

340.01.(74) “Vehicle” means every device in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported.

your feet are IN and UPON shoes and your person is transported in and upon that device which has a legal definition as I stated earlier of something designed by man, a contravance.

how about a roller skate LOL

since shoes are not self propelled it would not be BY, however in and upon still apply

I got a kick out of the way you only highlighted by, the inapplicable word instead of in and ipon the 2 applicable words to try and show me to be incorrect.  pretty lame.

Oh and btw, did anyone here know that 60% of the prisoners in the fed hotel that are released early are a result of their own pro se work not with the help of any fucking attorney?

Meaning most should not have gone in in the first place.

what does that say for the just-us system in america

What is it YOU dont understand, since everyone else seems to get it. As your OP asked "What is a motor vehicle?" the above quote is therefore superfluous. I also dont believe what you said about shoes was meant in any way to be irony.

This is your way of posting, quote a few vague facts, then try and get 2 +2 to equal 5. Your above comment about prisoners is also off topic and just a porr atempt to deflect criticism.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
a semi trailer is drawn, a buggy is drawn

yes unless a shoe grows out of your body it is a device and a device is something that is man made.

and again I have shown that shies most certainly can be construed as a vehicle.   your bare feet on the hand would not be.

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340.01.(74) “Vehicle” means every device in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, except railroad trains. A snowmobile or electric personal assistive mobility device shall not be considered a vehicle except for purposes made specifically applicable by statute.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

or holding or bearing

more cherry picking

nope, epic failure Real, that is definitely not what it is saying, and that is cherry picking.

the beam bears the load, the shoe holds the foot

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The majority opinion addresses two provisions in chapter 19, discussing first Wis. Stat. §19.35(1)(am) and then § 19.35(1)(a). The majority's order for considering the statutes is backwards, according to the directions set forth in § 19.35(4)(c)1.-3. and the plain language of § 19.35(1)(am).

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MM

"Being smart isn't for everyone" has the verb "is," while "being smart" is the subject.

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Me just before:

"Transport is a verb"...actually, transport is the subject of the sentence with "is" as the verb; but it's meaning is clear.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Then you know why what you posted is ridiculous. Finally.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

or holding or bearing

more cherry picking

nope, epic failure Real, that is definitely not what it is saying, and that is cherry picking.

the beam bears the load, the shoe holds the foot

and there is your cherry pick in the garish light of the sun.

while moving.........you take ah christ, I can't remember the verbal fallacy name right now.....anyway

bears weight as a beam is not the concept bearing gifts (to convey from origin to the object) why the fuck do you think they call bearings bearings?  They hold while moving.  same with hold.  it clearly says hold while moving......

you are using a form of encasement to cover all shades of holding while moving..(and clipping out the while moving part of the definition in the original defintion of transport ) which it clearly does not, and does not meet necessary and sufficient conditions as set forth in 340.01 at the outset, or whatever the fuckin cheesehead law number is .   

The transport is fundamental to the fucking thing, the moving, the conveyance by external means..not the fuckin air jordans.........

quit straining that gnat, hes got a fuckin hernia.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I cant imagine you picking out what is wrong with this but have a nut!

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/wi-court-of-appeals/1199846.html

Here is a supreme court fight one that is easier because abrahamson tells you what is wrong with it


http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8540609463452326520&q=hempel+v+baraboo&hl=en&as_sdt=4,50

meaning what an abortion they turned the law into.

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Then you know why what you posted is ridiculous. Finally.

No, that post still serves it's purpose. In both that post, and in the sentence "Transport is a verb", I'm using it as a noun to describe it's purpose as a verb.

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Have you figured out yet why it has nothing to do with active and passive voice?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

shoes have a tendency to hold your feet off the ground while you are moving and bearing your weight as well while you are moving hence could be considered a self-propelled vehicle used to transport your body from place to place or transported your body from place to place yesterday  LOL

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

no that comment in on topic because it is a shot right over the asswipe attorneys heads.

nothing was vague about my comments.

I understand that no one who has posted to the contrary gets it.

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

I'm surprised such a simple concept is going over your head.

That original sentence still has everything to do with active and passive voice. Just like "Transport is a verb" has an obvious meaning even though transport in that sentence is an infinitive used as the subject.

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


trans·port (trns-pôrt, -prt)

1. To carry from one place to another; convey


car·ry (kr)

1. To hold or support while moving; bear

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is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway

Note the passive voice of "transported" or "drawn"...if you are walking, you are transporting yourself, not being transported. Therefore, shoes doesn't fit.

(Or at least, that seems to me what the intent of that sentence is.)

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

transporting, transported just different tenses of the word.

I was pointing out voice, not tense.

To transport (active voice, present tense) is a very different meaning than "being transported" (passive voice, present tense).

And that passive voice is enough to make it clear why shoes aren't intended to qualify as a vehicle.

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

you might want to elaborate on that very different meaning because I do not see it

You really don't see the difference between passive and active voice?

Wow, that's kinda elementary school english stuff there.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

Actually I wasn't confusing anything, just oversimplifying. :p My point remains perfectly intact.

Tense wasn't what I was discussing; voice was.

You were wrong on that the voice point as well, as already explained. In fact, you were wrong about which phrases were and were not verbs.

Oversimplify? You were entirely incorrect--literally entirely.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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To transport (active voice, present tense) is a very different meaning than "being transported" (passive voice, present tense).

Well, if it's elementary English, you didn't master it either.

"To transport" is an infinitive, not a verb at all, and without tense or voice. "To run," "to type," "to learn" -- these are all concepts. You use them as nouns: I love to swim; "to swim" is the object of the verb "love."

"Being transported" isn't a verb either. The merchandise was being transported--the verb is "was being" (past progressive tense), and "transported" is the object of the verb.

Active voice means the subject is doing something: The shipper transported the merchandise.
Passive voice means the subject was acted upon: The merchandise was shipped.

The tenses you're confusing with voice are:

I shipped the merchandise -- simple past
I ship the merchandise -- simple present
I will ship the merchandise -- simple future
I had shipped the merchandise -- past perfect
I have shipped the merchandise -- present perfect
I will have shipped the merchandise -- future perfect
I was shipping the merchandise -- past progressive
I am shipping the merchandise -- present progressive
I will be shipping the merchandise -- future perfect
I had been shipping the merchandise -- past perfect progressive
I have been shipping the merchandise -- present perfect progressive
I will have been shipping the merchandise -- future perfect progressive.

Feel free to add imperfect could, should, would, might, and so forth for additional tenses.

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/601/01/