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PeonForHer -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 12:16:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus




I meant face to face, hon.




Lockit -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 12:19:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

Mmmmmmmm Lockits cave mmmmmmmmmmmmm nice...
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I agree this thread is hardly about seduction... but what good is seduction if people aren't reading it unless you hit them over the head with a bat and drag them to your cave? lol



Shhh!! That is a SEEEKRIT!! [;)]




I KNOW, you are talking about the cave I am cleaning and am all bitchy about with my slow... ever so slow kitchen remodel! Because I just know... you're a gentleman, sometimes. [;)]




Ninebelowzero -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 12:23:24 PM)

Sorry to hear Lockit. It's a real pig waiting for that sort of thing.




Lockit -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 12:25:31 PM)

Well, I can't really blame anyone but myself as I am the remodeler! lol I be slow! lol




Ninebelowzero -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 12:28:05 PM)

Shame on you Lockit, get that thumb out.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 12:29:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus




I meant face to face, hon.



I am keeping track! If you are being meeeen, I WILL FIGURE IT OUT! Eventually. [&o]

And yes, I know. Still keeping track. Did you know I can get naked cam dances from Cornishmen? Right sluts, they are!




FrostedFlake -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 1:53:44 PM)

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Lockit
Okay, I have had half a cup of coffee and yes, I am getting a headache, but damn if I am not getting some of this. How can some boys exist to keep a man roped into a sexless marriage? What the hell did they do to cause that? lol If there is a sexless marriage, that would be between the married adults and believe me... there are other options. We can't blame the children


Of course the children are not to be blamed. The reason they arrived is so he would not leave. A disastrous situation I would find deplorable and he does too. Wrong woman, you see.

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I also find exception to where online is different than in person when it comes to expressing ones interests.


It is quite different. Indeed, 180 degrees. In real life it is very hard to tell if a lady enjoys kink. Online that is the easy part. The hard part online is the easy part in real life. All those non verbal cues that are naturally given as you talk news, sports, weather, religion (aka philosophy) and politics, simply do not exist online. You cannot tailor your conversation in light of what you cannot see.

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Where there is a will, there is a way for the creative person that really wants something


Wants what, just exactly? And, conversely doesn't want what, just exactly? Ever wake up screaming, only to realize it ain't you? Ever have to call the police to make the screaming stop, so you can put your pants on in peace? Do you know what beer goggles are? Let's count the things we had in common. We were drunk. And human. This is not the way I want to start a morning. And things could have gone much worse. I could have someone named after me. All in all, quite off-putting. And no way to get what I really want. It is however, a good way to create the situation at the top of this post. Shudder. If getting laid is the objective, mission accomplish. If I wanted anything else... like an affectionate relationship with a woman I admire and respect, I probably ought to start with a woman I admire and respect who shows some feeling toward me.

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Stop finding the reasons you can't have happiness and find the reasons you deserve it and then go out there and find what you want. Etcetera.


I apparently misspoke because I seem to have been misread. I will say it differently. I don't ask for what I don't want. What I don't want is a LOT more common that what I do want. Ipso facto, I often don't ask.

It seems I have not been helpful on this thread. So I will leave it to others and read what they say.

Edit : Added an r.




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 3:56:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I WANT HELPFUL HINTS!! What WORKS with you ?

When I was having sex I remember it as being easy enough to get...so that is not what I mean.


Well ... ROFL .. as I am single ...

I have no idea what works when You are REALLY desiring ANOTHER!

Seduction??? ... i have acquired a 1001 tricks ... and they all failed ... when i pursued, or was pursued by real heart throbs.

Whom I knew well ...

And trust me ... when motivated, I pull out all the stops ... use every trick ..

Way more stops and tricks than most men can even imagine.

Of course, the Lady admires and respects me, and all have tied to reconnect, as friends, later.

But basically, You can say, I am 0-16 as far as seducing, or being seduced by, a life partner.

It just is what it is ...

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BTW -1 = 0 -16 is an analogy that Lady Hib is undoubtedly aware of ....

BTW -2 = Being myself was EXACTLY what was happening.








BootyBoy -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 7:56:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

This is not a terribly seductive thread.

I WANT HELPFUL HINTS!! What WORKS with you persnickety menz?

When I was having sex I remember it as being easy enough to get...so that is not what I mean. NSA afternoons are a thing of the past for me. This is different!

SPILL!!



Ok, so on to trying to answer the question. I can, of course, only answer for myself. I assume other subs have different reaction/needs/bents.

For me, I noticed fairly early on in my submissiveness that I responded to VERY different things in Dommes than I did in my days of vanilla dating. For example, in vanilla, I was always into the looks first off. I would introduce myself to girls across a room, on the street, anywhere, because they were good looking. Like most guys, I had a kind of internal checklist--Face...check, Boobs...check, Waistline...check, Ass...check! It's not that I wasn't interested in anything else, but sheer beauty was what got myy attention first. I would say that in those days, as a general rule, the more beautiful a woman was, the more susceptible to her seduction I was.

But I kind of tired of that after a while. Now when I began to discover D/s I noticed that my tastes had drastically changed, because my whole dynamic had changed. I had a really strong internal pull towards submissiveness, but not in the way that I would have expected. Knowing myself, I would have assumed that I would have gone for the "Bondage Barbie" type--trim, cute, and stylish, complete with a pink leather flogger, together with her pink 6-inch heels, and matching chaps. But, I found that that's not who I was most attracted to at on the dominant side at all. In fact, looks wasn't very important to me at all. I found myself much more drawn to women who were much more maturenthan myself, I had no problem with her being overweight. I wasn't looking for "pretty" I wanted someone who was going to HANDLE me. So, I found myself, looking for women who looked and sounded serious and with a bit of an edge. To me the seduction tables had flipped. I was not giving a second look at pornoesque dominas, but I found myself absolutely SEDUCED by no-nonsense women who sounded like the had very little patience for BS and knew what they wanted.

I mentioned in another thread about getting into, trouble with a mistress before we had even gotten to our first meet & greet. She seemed absolutely furious at me. But her lack of tolerance, rather than putting me off actually had the opposite effect. finally here was a woman who was really not going to let me get away with ANYTHING. As i described in the other thread, she made me cut a switch from a tree, strip off the bark and tendrils and bring it to our first in-public meeting @ Starbucks so she could inspect it. the whole time we were talking she had me place it on the table for anyone to see (if they could make sense of what it was). Once I cut the switch, I have to admit that I was scared of what she would do to me with it. But I also have to admit that I was absolutely seduced by the power she held over me. I went back and forth in my mind between terror and fascination. I kept looking at the switch every day, like it was a drug. I took it out and swung it, then put it away. Later I wondered how much it would hurt and tried it out. It REALLY hurt.

But the seduction was not about the pain, it was about someone having such complete power over me. I obsessed over it. I don't think I have ever been that devoured by the thought of a woman than I was then. Maybe it was the anticipation but it was stronger than anything I'd ever felt. I was literally loosing sleep because I just couldn't stop thinking about it, even late into, the night. I don't know why I was so sprung.

So seduction looked totally different for me, once I moved out of vanilla relationships. And to this day, what seduces my mind the most is when I'm made to feel like I felt then. Powerful women seduce me in a stronger, and totally different way then I was before, and for totally different reasons.

Does that make any sense? Does that help




FrostedFlake -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 8:01:00 PM)

'bout time you got here, Booty Boy. Where the HELL you bin?

I mean, ahem, good to see you. Been wondering what you might say.

Edit to add : Well that is pretty different from what I said. "Like me, dammit!" doesn't sound at all like "Grab me by the short hairs!"

Thanks BB.




BootyBoy -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 8:09:33 PM)

@ FrostedFlake

WhatchutalkinboutWillis???

I'm all over page 1!!!!!!




FrostedFlake -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 9:02:17 PM)

But it's been so long, Booty Boy, and the thread is sorta limping along. Couldn't help but miss you.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 9:08:35 PM)

Yeah, I want exotic anecdotes! With diagrams!




BootyBoy -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 9:10:05 PM)

Ha! Well, I was hoping not to monopolize, but now I've cast off my feigned cloak of shyness, and will dare to prance in the sun! Lol




BootyBoy -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 9:12:03 PM)

But LadyHibiscus, I've been more than antedoty already!




LadyHibiscus -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 9:15:49 PM)

I know it, BootyBoy, you've done more than your share, and your posts are excellent. Perhaps the other mens are intimidated!





BootyBoy -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 9:24:45 PM)

Subs intimidated? they may just like like :-)




LadyHibiscus -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 9:34:54 PM)

[:)]




MrRodgers -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 10:13:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

As a companion to the courtship discussion, let us ponder the art of seduction. Is it a lost art? Do we need to bother? Will the men even notice?

Part of female dominance is sexual aggression, but that doesn't mean it needs to be obvious, or gracelss.

So, what do you men like to see and experience?



What you ask is the new digitally inspired query.

In real vanilla life seduction does exist. Online, no.

It is a bit unfortunate but to some extent we agree...to an exchange. We exchange the reality of those signals, body language, flirts and charm for the quantity of the Internet that also comes unfortunately with the baggage of the the 'community's' jargon, footnotes and with them...the presumptions and prejudice they create.

Example: seduction. Is it a lost art? Do we need to bother? Will the women even notice?

Part of male dominance is sexual aggression, but that doesn't mean it needs to be obvious, or gracelss.'

So, what do you women like to see and experience?


I am thinking almost every time this is blown off in an email from a dominant man because of two things...the reference to sexual aggression be in the written word, while in real life, never spoken, becomes a bit of a red flag and also, not having what I call a somewhat of a 'pimped out' profile.

Online, it is the profile that had better do the seducing, and almost never does, then in emails, too dry an flat...taken as insincere.




MrRodgers -> RE: The Object of Desire (1/10/2012 10:21:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BootyBoy


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

This is not a terribly seductive thread.

I WANT HELPFUL HINTS!! What WORKS with you persnickety menz?

When I was having sex I remember it as being easy enough to get...so that is not what I mean. NSA afternoons are a thing of the past for me. This is different!

SPILL!!


...bring it to our first in-public meeting @ Starbucks so she could inspect it. the whole time we were talking she had me place it on the table for anyone to see (if they could make sense of what it was). Once I cut the switch, I have to admit that I was scared of what she would do to me with it. But I also have to admit that I was absolutely seduced by the power she held over me. I went back and forth in my mind between terror and fascination. I kept looking at the switch every day, like it was a drug. I took it out and swung it, then put it away. Later I wondered how much it would hurt and tried it out. It REALLY hurt.

"The "seduction" was only in real time. Only then did you "have to admit that I was absolutely seduced by the power she held over me."

I rest my case.





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