Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

innocent man tortured and sentenced to death


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> innocent man tortured and sentenced to death Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/9/2012 10:18:16 AM   
defiantbadgirl


Posts: 2988
Joined: 11/14/2005
Status: offline 		http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/iran-sentences-former-u-marine-death-151159772.html

The man is not a spy. He was obviously tortured into making a false confession.


_____________________________


Only in the United States is the health of the people secondary to making money. If this is what "capitalism" is about, I'll take socialism any day of the week.


Collared by MartinSpankalot May 13 2008
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/9/2012 2:43:15 PM   
AlwaysLisa


Posts: 1088
Joined: 10/6/2006
From: Washington State
Status: offline 		Sadly, he appears to be a political pawn.   We are teetering on the brink with Iran as it is, over the nuclear weapons issue, this won't help.  I don't think we have heard the last of this.    

_____________________________

Just an old flower child, trying to survive in today's chaos and confusion.

(in reply to defiantbadgirl)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/9/2012 2:50:18 PM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		Point is, I think we just bought his death back (inadvertently that) and they save face for kissing our ass from that, and making big howl and lotsa noise at americans....



_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to AlwaysLisa)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 4:05:13 AM   
Politesub53


Posts: 14862
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline 		One has to ask why an Ex US Marine, recently in service in that very same region, ever thought Iran was a safe place to go.

He is being used as a pawn by Iran, plain and simple. That said, he must have known the risk he was taking going there in the first place.

(in reply to DaNewAgeViking)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 5:07:05 AM   
Sanity


Posts: 22039
Joined: 6/14/2006
From: Nampa, Idaho USA
Status: offline
Read the article - he was in Iran to visit his grandmother. Why should it be so risky to go visit a loved one?

Oh thats right, because its a fascist Islamic state, everyone should know better than going there

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

One has to ask why an Ex US Marine, recently in service in that very same region, ever thought Iran was a safe place to go.

He is being used as a pawn by Iran, plain and simple. That said, he must have known the risk he was taking going there in the first place.


_____________________________

Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

(in reply to Politesub53)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 5:14:06 AM   
Politesub53


Posts: 14862
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Read the article - he was in Iran to visit his grandmother. Why should it be so risky to go visit a loved one?

Oh thats right, because its a fascist Islamic state, everyone should know better than going there




Well brains, according to very recent statements on here by some of the right, the US has been at war with Iran since 1979. Either they are wrong, or you are, best you take issue with them then eh.

Why should it be so risky visiting a country you are at war with ? ..........gee thats a toughie.


(in reply to Sanity)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 5:27:55 AM   
Sanity


Posts: 22039
Joined: 6/14/2006
From: Nampa, Idaho USA
Status: offline
No, try again... if you had paid attention you would have seen that someone wrote that Iran has been on a war footing with the United States since 1979

Here is further evidence, for those still wallowing in denial of that obvious truth

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Read the article - he was in Iran to visit his grandmother. Why should it be so risky to go visit a loved one?

Oh thats right, because its a fascist Islamic state, everyone should know better than going there




Well brains, according to very recent statements on here by some of the right, the US has been at war with Iran since 1979. Either they are wrong, or you are, best you take issue with them then eh.

Why should it be so risky visiting a country you are at war with ? ..........gee thats a toughie.




_____________________________

Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

(in reply to Politesub53)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 5:53:43 AM   
Hillwilliam


Posts: 19394
Joined: 8/27/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


No, try again... if you had paid attention you would have seen that someone wrote that Iran has been on a war footing with the United States since 1979

Here is further evidence, for those still wallowing in denial of that obvious truth

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Read the article - he was in Iran to visit his grandmother. Why should it be so risky to go visit a loved one?

Oh thats right, because its a fascist Islamic state, everyone should know better than going there




Well brains, according to very recent statements on here by some of the right, the US has been at war with Iran since 1979. Either they are wrong, or you are, best you take issue with them then eh.

Why should it be so risky visiting a country you are at war with ? ..........gee thats a toughie.




Ok, to restate another person's question. Shouldn't someone, especially with a recent military background, know to stay the fuck AWAY from a country that we have been on a 'war footing' (whatever the fuck you define that as) for over 30 years?

I truly sympathize with the guy and realize he was just visiting relatives but, with all the sabre rattling, did he not have a good idea he was going to become a pawn?

_____________________________

Kinkier than a cheap garden hose.

Whoever said "Religion is the opiate of the masses" never heard Right Wing talk radio.

Don't blame me, I voted for Gary Johnson.

(in reply to Sanity)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 6:13:06 AM   
Sanity


Posts: 22039
Joined: 6/14/2006
From: Nampa, Idaho USA
Status: offline
Maybe he didnt realize how much the Iranian government hates us?

Some people are naive, just because he has a military background doesnt make him a political guru

He is probably a Muslim and obviously didnt think he would have issues. Assuming he was innocent, and just wanted to see his grandmother before her passing, this is all extremely unfortunate, what he got caught up in

I do feel for him

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Ok, to restate another person's question. Shouldn't someone, especially with a recent military background, know to stay the fuck AWAY from a country that we have been on a 'war footing' (whatever the fuck you define that as) for over 30 years?

I truly sympathize with the guy and realize he was just visiting relatives but, with all the sabre rattling, did he not have a good idea he was going to become a pawn?


_____________________________

Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

(in reply to Hillwilliam)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 6:30:05 AM   
Hillwilliam


Posts: 19394
Joined: 8/27/2008
Status: offline 		I wonder what we're going to have to give up to get him out?
That IS the job of the state department now. Get him back.
(I'm thinking of the diplomatic efforts to get those hikers out)
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Maybe he didnt realize how much the Iranian government hates us?

Some people are naive, just because he has a military background doesnt make him a political guru

He is probably a Muslim and obviously didnt think he would have issues. Assuming he was innocent, and just wanted to see his grandmother before her passing, this is all extremely unfortunate, what he got caught up in

I do feel for him

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Ok, to restate another person's question. Shouldn't someone, especially with a recent military background, know to stay the fuck AWAY from a country that we have been on a 'war footing' (whatever the fuck you define that as) for over 30 years?

I truly sympathize with the guy and realize he was just visiting relatives but, with all the sabre rattling, did he not have a good idea he was going to become a pawn?




_____________________________

Kinkier than a cheap garden hose.

Whoever said "Religion is the opiate of the masses" never heard Right Wing talk radio.

Don't blame me, I voted for Gary Johnson.

(in reply to Sanity)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 7:15:02 AM   
VideoAdminDelta


Posts: 1278
Joined: 7/26/2008
Status: offline

Please stay on topic.  Thank you.

(in reply to Hillwilliam)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 11:05:48 AM   
Politesub53


Posts: 14862
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
Maybe he didnt realize how much the Iranian government hates us?

Really ? Surely being right next door he might have realised what was going on, what with his traing and everything.

quote:

Some people are naive, just because he has a military background doesnt make him a political guru

According to another thread, having a military background qualifies him to be President. Nice to see you dont agree though.

quote:

He is probably a Muslim and obviously didnt think he would have issues. Assuming he was innocent, and just wanted to see his grandmother before her passing, this is all extremely unfortunate, what he got caught up in

I do feel for him


I cant see that he was unaware of the danger, whatever the circumstances.

(in reply to Sanity)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 1:01:42 PM   
ShibsStories


Posts: 132
Joined: 1/2/2012
Status: offline 		FR
Not having seen the video that he is supposed to be under duress in, can't say one way or the other if I feel he is a spy. I am sure the U.S. has spies over there though, and bets are on they would be of Iranian decent. Than again, he really could just be there to visit his grams. Either way I find torture ethically wrong, and hope we find a way to bring this man home safe.

Ps.
Anyone else irritated over the clip going on about Iran's nuclear program after they finished talking about Amir?
Just feel it's a bit underhanded on the medias side as well as a bit off topic.

(in reply to Politesub53)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 2:28:41 PM   
farglebargle


Posts: 10715
Joined: 6/15/2005
From: Albany, NY
Status: offline 		Stupidity has always been punishable by death.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5583.html

quote:

The Department of State warns U.S. citizens to carefully consider the risks of travel to Iran. Dual national Iranian-American citizens may encounter difficulty in departing Iran. U.S. citizens should stay current with media coverage of local events and carefully consider nonessential travel.


"Think of it as Evolution In Action"

< Message edited by farglebargle -- 1/10/2012 2:29:07 PM >

_____________________________

It's not every generation that gets to watch a civilization fall. Looks like we're in for a hell of a show.

ברוך אתה, אדוני אלוקינו, ריבון העולמים, מי יוצר צמחים ריחניים

(in reply to ShibsStories)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: innocent man tortured and sentenced to death - 1/10/2012 2:35:46 PM   
Rule


Posts: 10479
Joined: 12/5/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
Stupidity has always been punishable by death.

"Think of it as Evolution In Action"

Quite.

Pity. He is a handsome fellow and looks intelligent.

(in reply to farglebargle)
Profile   Post #: 15
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> innocent man tortured and sentenced to death Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.218