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vincentML -> RE: The actions of a few disgrace all allied troops. (1/12/2012 6:55:43 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Aswad
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Codes of discipline are lipstick on a pig.
Aside from what Kirata said, which is absolutely credible, I would also point out that voicing that opinion, or evidencing that attitude, is one of the shortest routes to a dishonorable discharge around these parts that I know of, but not before the CO tears the offender a new one. If it's one of those I know, said new hole is likely to be very thoroughly reamed out, too. Our soldiers are professionals doing a difficult and demanding job. We have no use for armed mobs.
See my reply to Kirata at #146
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You can't seriously be comparing the present war in Afghanistan with Nanking, Armenia or Congo?
When mothers beg your troops to kill them that they may be mercifully rid of the memories of what those same troops have done to their daughters; when there are literal rivers of blood along the roads to the mass graves; when the remains of eaten humans litter the firepits and men play football with the unborn torn from the womb; then you may have a point. Meanwhile, you're just displaying a frightening level of ignorance or indifference.
Nobody's claiming that Afghanistan is a walk in the park, but your statement requires some tempering perspective.
Just a matter of degrees. How many Iraqi civilians were killed, how many were driven from their homes because America went to war on false assumptions? How many American troops were killed and wounded for that senseless neocon adventure?
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Without defining the term 'honorable', you might as well say "There can be no such thing as a twiddlybangwhooshy war."
I get that fewer people in the western hemisphere have any meaningful concept of honor these days, and that the term has had varied meanings across different periods and cultures, but that doesn't make it a meaningless one, nor one devoid of a theme. If you wish to contend that war cannot be fought in an honorable manner, you will have to provide your definition of 'honorable' for reference, as it may well have a different meaning than what some other posters read into it. The usual colloquial sense of "well regarded by the public" clearly doesn't work when describing war.
People die and are maimed and you play with semantics. FFS!!
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Clearly, you have been spared exposure to a wide range of human endeavours.
Either that, or you're conflating quantity with quality.
Clearly you have no concept of what shit-in-your-pants atrocities and blow-your-head-off artillary takes place on battlefields. If you can cite more horrific activities please do so.
To quote the Brando character Special Forces Coionel Walter E. Kurtz in Apocalyse Now: Oh, the humanity! the humanity!
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